Tim Cook Tells Utah Tech Audience: Encryption 'Makes the Public Safe'

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    Apple CEO Tim Cook drew cheers from a Salt Lake City audience on Friday as he reiterated the company's unwavering commitment to encryption and privacy protections for its customers, according to local media reports.

    The comments were made during a Q&A session at the yearly meeting of the Utah Technology Council (UTC), a trade and advocacy group representing more than 5,000 technology and life-sciences companies across the U.S. state. The 55-year-old CEO was invited along with Utah senator Orrin Hatch to take the stage at the Grand America Hotel and field questions from a public audience.

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    Tim Cook in Q&A with senator Orrin Hatch

    Calling encryption "one of the biggest issues we face," the CEO noted that most iPhone users have more personal data on their phones than in their homes. "Encryption is one of the things that makes the public safe," he said. "We feel we have a responsibility to protect our customers."
    Cook was responding to questions regarding the lingering impact of Apple's dispute with the FBI over the agency's demand that it build a "back door" into its software, following the use of a locked iPhone by the primary suspect in the San Bernardino mass shooting last December.

    Apple refused to comply with the request from the federal agency, which dropped its pursuit of the company when investigators apparently discovered another way to retrieve the data on the suspect's phone.



    During the Q&A session, Cook also talked up the emerging field of augmented reality and underscored the importance of digital photo technology in preserving personal memories, which led him onto the subject of Apple's co-founder, Cook's late friend and colleague, Steve Jobs.

    The CEO spoke fondly of keeping the former chairman's office intact at the company's Cupertino campus in California, where Jobs' personal knickknacks remain in place five years after his death from pancreatic cancer at the age of 56.

    "His spirit will always be the DNA of the company," said Cook. "Jobs' vision was to make the best products that enrich people's lives. Lots of things will change with Apple, but that will never change."

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  2. RedOrchestra Suspended

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    REALLY ... then how about eliminating the iMessage Ping logs after one day.
     
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    Shame people never dare to ask the right questions, actually, I think they do but won't get through.
     
  4. RedOrchestra Suspended

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    Sounds like a real testy Q&A. I wonder if everyone found a free iPhone under their seats a la Oprah,
     
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    Hm. So, Orrin Hatch wants to understand & takes the initiative to find out. Not, any of the other senators or congressmen who've taken a position on this. Orrin Hatch. Born in 1934.

    If congress or the greater gov are both hoping to to have a say in imposing their will over this rapidly changing technological age and remain relevant at all, then Silicon Valley needs to host an annual clinic for congress to give them some idea of what they're opining (& voting) on.

    Nice to see someone taking an effort... kind of shocking that out of all of them, it's Orrin Hatch.
     
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    Very tasty. People love to be spoonfed manure that tastes like chicken.

    Cook can stop cooking the truth whenever he wants. He will step on customers, he will even throw Clinton under the bus if it helped his company's snowflaky stock. Apple's history of privacy (and taxes) shows Apple does things only for Apple's benefits, while trying to sell to customers and government what they wants to hear. But blame them for everything and/or try to bamboozle a "solution" when something goes wrong as opposed to taking actual responsibility (which, once again, hurts their stock - the only thing they ever give a crap about.)

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    No shock at all, so given the rating of congress and what they vote on. The question is, why is he believed at face value?

    And nobody cares in what year he was born. Care more about the bills he voted AYE or NAY on.
     
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    Tim talks about Apples commitment to user security.......while looking outside his window at the PRISM gathering device mounted to the telephone pole...that he allowed to be installed.

    Also, thanks for storing iMessage meta data, Tim. That is pro user security.

    You suck, Tim.
     
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    ". . . . best products . . . ."

    I'm just not seeing it outside of the phone. Hey, Tim remember us computer users. We would like best products also, not just good enough to keep school children happy.
     
  11. zioxide macrumors 603

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    Data like that is pretty important for software developers when trying to diagnose and fix bugs. Deleting after 30 days is a pretty reasonable standard.


    Of course that doesn't prevent people who have no clue about that process from bitching and moaning based on the headlines.
     
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    Such a "mistake" does not happen at random. And it is not the only one:
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/02/24/former-apple-security-engineer-to-apple-fix-your-sh-t/

     
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    oh my word what nonsense. apple is one of the few companies that doesn't manage to its stock price. they stood up for their customers to the FBI. and they're also the biggest taxpayer in the US. what you're confused about is overseas earnings which don't need to be paid to the IRS is paid to an overseas state, as they're doing. the US and EU are just butthurt about it since they aren't getting a piece.

    really, to suggest cook manages to he stock price just shows how completely ignorant you are about apple. it's comic.
     
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    I do not know what your feelings (hate) have to do with the obvious weaknesses in Apple devices and software.
     
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    i'm going to bet that you don't write software. because yes, mistakes in complex software projects happen. all the time, every day.

    the hater mindset is so nuts. how you believe that the same company that very publicly stood up to the fbi over encryption is now conspiring to make your local itunes backups weaker is anyone's guest. it's a form of paranoia.
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    what obvious weaknesses? iOS is more secure than android. it's encrypted by default while android is not. that speaks for itself.
     
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    Not for a company that has positioned itself as being the most secure and private platform. "We care about your privacy"....so we keep your logs on file for 30 days and hand it over when asked. Very pro-user right there.
     
  18. KALLT macrumors 601

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    Apple should provide more tools to the user to inspect details of the encryption. For instance, being able to see and verify the public key of an iMessage contact. A keychain app or section in Settings to inspect own keys would also help. I hope to see OpenPGP integration in Mail some day, perhaps in the form of an extension point or something similar to their VPN APIs.
     
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    Apple cloud services would be great if they were zero-knowledge. I think MEGA and Spider Oak has it. You upload your files and the server doesn't have access.

    Apple is the only big company I have hope to do it (in the future). Google, Facebook, et al are doing the contrary.
     
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    Yeah, OK, sure ... 2 Billion iMessage Pings per day for 30 days ... rolling - sure you got enough data there?

    unbelievable the naiveté in the Cult of Apple to believe they need ALL that data for a simply message app ... yeah?
     
  21. macs4nw macrumors 601

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    It takes no small measure of humility to admit a lack of knowledge about rapidly evolving high tech issues as they relate to newly drafted legislation that purport to address unprecedented moral, ethical, as well as security concerns that seem to arise at an ever increasing rate proportionate to the advancement of technology.

    Hats off to Orrin Hatch. The 'Feinsteins' of Congress should take notice.
     
  22. Robert.Walter macrumors 65816

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    Better yet, make them explicit opt-in.
     
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    Personal attacks aren't very helpful in this discussion.
     
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    The Feinsteins of congress should be in a federal pen for crimes against the constitution in the name of expensive and intrusive keystone kop security theater.
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    Is that the same Tesla that last month had cars hacked and critical subsystems pwned from 12mi away? (Well after similar hacks on Jeep put the car industry on notice). Wonder what she's been up to the last couple years?

    (Note Im not saying her critiques of Apple were wrong, but she should know that security is hard.)
     
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    If I recall, Macs continue to be considered some of the best computers on the market, but we must not generalize too much. So, I ask you ... what are you hoping that Apple's "fixes" to make them "the best"? Be specific, because that's important.

    Sporting a 2013 MacBook Air that I'd choose over a 2016 PC from any other company.
     

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