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Tim Cook to Apple Employees: "Apple is Not Going to Change"
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You need to demonstrate that not only is there a difference between the male and female groups, but that that difference is more important than the differences to be found within each group.
but, the problem is that you can only evaluate what differences are important ones by applying your own values. You might think the colour of the next line of iMacs is important, or maybe not, who knows what you think before you say it.
In my opinion, I'd assume that the difference between the male and female groups are un important compared to the difference within each group.
Sure, when taken from large groups and averaged, there are statistical differences between male and female, but my belief is that those differences are negligible compared to the differences between each individual person.
I certainly don't feel that my gender is much of an influence over my decision making abilities, do you feel different about yourself?
Why do you feel you must state he's Gay? Is He?, don't know, dont care!
Steve wants him for his expertice, could care less about his lifestyle
He probably thinks Apple CEO will change their company's name into FRUITY.
With igayphone and iwackpod.
Yes.
I would like to own a big muscle car with a very large engine.
I would like to own a giant TV.
I would like to own a giant HiFi system with very large speakers.
I'd like a home cinema room and paint the walls matt black so they don't reflect the light.
I like basic, non messed about with food.
I'm not interested in fashion or brand name/designer ware, and hate food and cloths shopping.
Do you think I'm male or female ?
Yes.
I would like to own a big muscle car with a very large engine.
I would like to own a giant TV.
I would like to own a giant HiFi system with very large speakers.
I'd like a home cinema room and paint the walls matt black so they don't reflect the light.
I like basic, non messed about with food.
I'm not interested in fashion or brand name/designer ware, and hate food and cloths shopping.
Do you think I'm male or female ?
I acknowledge that as a list of stereotypical desires for the average american male.
But my point isn't that stereotypes don't exist, for they clearly do, my point is I don't believe they are a significant part of you and your decision making process.
Obviously there are people who do identify themselves strongly with whatever the local and current stereotypes are for their gender ( or class, or religion, or nationality, or operating system etc.. ) and you may well be that kind of person.
I've no problem with that, but I still believe you are as capable as the next person to also think freely and choose your own values in life.
You are not actually uncontrollably masculine, no matter what you tell yourself.
If you have trouble seeing these stereotypes as a cultural thing rather than something stored in your Y chromosomes, then just consider how different the male character has been each century.
I'm sure you don't impress your mate by wearing a impressively tall wig, and show off your incredibly puffy lace around your wrists and neck.
(but it's totally fine with me if you fancy giving that a whirl)
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I have a newfound respect for Tim now that I know he is fröhlich, the implied overtones of a light-hearted defiance of convention is exactly what Apple is and needs.
Yes.
I would like to own a big muscle car with a very large engine.
I would like to own a giant TV.
I would like to own a giant HiFi system with very large speakers.
I'd like a home cinema room and paint the walls matt black so they don't reflect the light.
I like basic, non messed about with food.
I'm not interested in fashion or brand name/designer ware, and hate food and cloths shopping.
Do you think I'm male or female ?
Are you stupid? No, seriously?
I know very attractive straight women who own Ford Mustangs (technically a muscle car with oversized engines), and have big screen TVs with nice surround sound speaker systems. They have a contemporary black kitchen and have no interest in cooking.
Get over yourself and your manliness insecurities.
Yes, but those of us who are gay have a sense of pride at this accomplishment. This is a milestone that should be celebrated, not dismissed. Why don't you want to include the "gay" part? What's wrong with that? If you have no issues surrounding sexuality, it shouldn't bother you in the slightest. But apparently it does.
I would hope that some of this support from a community like this convinces Tim to more be open about his life. No need for a big announcement, but just showing up at public events with a partner would speak volumes.
Anderson Cooper brings his partner to Hollywood parties and other events, even though he is not publicly out.
This is all good to get out in the open now, and shortly will disappear from the radar. Nobody really cares, except those of us who are happy for such a role model.
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That is a silly thing to say as I'm talking about general things and not specifics.
It would be like me saying I know a bloke on a building site who goes to ballet classes and only wears pink and has false nails.
Yeah, I may know someone like that, but I can't use one person to claim that's the norm.
Think different
Since Tim Cook joined Apple, there was only one constant: change. So if he says "Apple won't change" it means that there will be continously - change.
On the other hand: everyone is an induvidual with individual behaviour and thoughts. Tim is not Steve and so he can't behave like him. He needs to develop and refine his own style of managing Apple. The biggest mistake he could make is to try to behave like Steve. But they worked together for more than a decade and i'm sure both learned from each other. Furthermore, there are a lot of capable people working there and i'm sure these people will invent fascinating things, too. And there will be for sure some situations when those people ask themselfs, what would Steve had done in this situation. Finaly, he still lives and wants to be involved with Apple. All in all, it could be worse.
I'm from germany and as you might know, our head of government is chancelor Angela Merkel, a women raised in the former GDR and our foreign minister (and former vice chancelor) is Guido Westerwelle, a gay man. It's interesting that especially the press handles both much softer than one would expect if they would be straight men. Merkel is in her second term and in her first one she wasn't so bad, but she has much problems in her second. Westerwelle became secretary of state at the beginning of her second term and he is a total mess. He can't even speak english which is at least problematic if you have to deal on the international stage. He also has no strong opinion on international political topics and therefore can't answer simple questions on such things. Being sarcastic, you could say that his most positive quality is being gay. Wisiting countries as a german secretary of state is an insult for some concrete-minded folks but those can't say something homophobic for diplomatic reasons. In a way, that educates some people. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you're a woman or a gay in a powerfull position, but sometimes it saves you from too harsh criticism. That's "political correctness" in it's worst manner.
jb
Since Tim Cook joined Apple, there was only one constant: change. So if he says "Apple won't change" it means that there will be continously - change.
On the other hand: everyone is an induvidual with individual behaviour and thoughts. Tim is not Steve and so he can't behave like him. He needs to develop and refine his own style of managing Apple. The biggest mistake he could make is to try to behave like Steve. But they worked together for more than a decade and i'm sure both learned from each other. Furthermore, there are a lot of capable people working there and i'm sure these people will invent fascinating things, too. And there will be for sure some situations when those people ask themselfs, what would Steve had done in this situation. Finaly, he still lives and wants to be involved with Apple. All in all, it could be worse.
I'm from germany and as you might know, our head of government is chancelor Angela Merkel, a women raised in the former GDR and our foreign minister (and former vice chancelor) is Guido Westerwelle, a gay man. It's interesting that especially the press handles both much softer than one would expect if they would be straight men. Merkel is in her second term and in her first one she wasn't so bad, but she has much problems in her second. Westerwelle became secretary of state at the beginning of her second term and he is a total mess. He can't even speak english which is at least problematic if you have to deal on the international stage. He also has no strong opinion on international political topics and therefore can't answer simple questions on such things. Being sarcastic, you could say that his most positive quality is being gay. Wisiting countries as a german secretary of state is an insult for some concrete-minded folks but those can't say something homophobic for diplomatic reasons. In a way, that educates some people. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you're a woman or a gay in a powerfull position, but sometimes it saves you from too harsh criticism. That's "political correctness" in it's worst manner.
jb
A major milestone, is when we don't have to point out what his sexuality is. a major milestone, is when no one cares what sexuality somebody is.
by the way, "queer" is an acceptable term
True - and with "no one cares" we drop any sense of hiding.
One of the bios of Tim Cook described him as "Single, living in Palo Alto".
Although I don't know why that information is needed at all, it would be nice if it would say "Lives in Palo Alto with his husband". (or "partner" or "spouse" or "companion" or whatever)
When truly "no one cares", we'll see that.
Until then, we'll have a mostly hidden set of LGBT celebrities, a few "Ellen Degeneres" types willing to be poster children, and the occasional "Larry Craig" types caught literally with their pants down.
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It looks like the mods deleted a post that used the word "queer".
Must have been an elderly mod, since most kids today prefer the word "queer" to "gay".
I work with queer youth here on the peninsula, and they'll often say "I'm not gay, I'm queer".
To them, "queer" means having some significant (from "sometimes" to "always") attraction to the same sex.
On the other hand, to them "gay" means middle-aged men in the Castro or Stonewall - it's a lifestyle moniker, not a description of sexuality. (It implies a certain sexuality, but much more.)
We've repurposed "queer" as a positive adjective. Get used to it.
True - and with "no one cares" we drop any sense of hiding.
One of the bios of Tim Cook described him as "Single, living in Palo Alto".
Although I don't know why that information is needed at all, it would be nice if it would say "Lives in Palo Alto with his husband". (or "partner" or "spouse" or "companion" or whatever)
When truly "no one cares", we'll see that.
Until then, we'll have a mostly hidden set of LGBT celebrities, a few "Ellen Degeneres" types willing to be poster children, and the occasional "Larry Craig" types caught literally with their pants down.
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It looks like the mods deleted a post that used the word "queer".
Must have been an elderly mod, since most kids today prefer the word "queer" to "gay".
I work with queer youth here on the peninsula, and they'll often say "I'm not gay, I'm queer".
To them, "queer" means having some significant (from "sometimes" to "always") attraction to the same sex.
On the other hand, to them "gay" means middle-aged men in the Castro or Stonewall - it's a lifestyle moniker, not a description of sexuality. (It implies a certain sexuality, but much more.)
We've repurposed "queer" as a positive adjective. Get used to it.
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What bothers everyone is that the "gay" part needs to be included at all. Those of us who are straight don't have a sense of pride for every straight CEO, nor do we feel the need or want to include the "straight" part.
I have no issues with sexuality. I have issues with people who want to shove sexuality into discussions it has no place in, such as one about Apple's new CEO discussing the company direction.
This whole "gay" thing that some of you felt obliged to include has completely derailed the thread.
Nor should it be excluded.
But don't worry, it's one of those "15 minutes of fame" issues, it will disappear from the radar very soon....
Why do you feel you must state he's Gay? Is He?, don't know, dont care!
Steve wants him for his expertice, could care less about his lifestyle
As much as i agree with most of your statement i think gay men or women wouldn't see it as a "lifestyle".
I think it'll take a lot to mess up what steve created, and no-one at apple is going to do that, to much of a good thing going on there.
Resistance is futile.
and +10 for humour....
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I don't particularly care about him being gay or not.
But my concern is that them Apple haters will use that as an insult.
And if the haters bring it up, they've already lost the argument.
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If the new CEO were female, there'd be discussions about what that means.
If the new CEO were black, there'd be discussions about what that means.
If the new CEO were Asian, there'd be discussions about what that means.
If the new CEO were Hispanic, there'd be discussions about what that means.
If the new CEO were a white male of European ancestry, there'd be no discussion.
But the new CEO is a gay white male of European ancestry, so it's going to be discussed.
Not for long, because it will probably have no bearing on how the new CEO runs Apple.