Tim Cook Visits 'Kitchen Stories' Developers and Furniture Maker Dula on German Trip

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Following a trip to France, Tim Cook today toured Germany, where he made a number of stops to visit furniture maker Dula, the developers behind the Kitchen Stories app, and the team at Refinery29.

    Cook has been documenting his trip on Twitter, sharing a number of photos at each site. Before leaving France, he made one last stop to visit the Marché Saint-Germain Apple Store, where he met with staff, iOS developers, and Apple customers. It was his second visit to an Apple Store following a stop in Marseille earlier this week.


    He then headed to Vreden, Germany, where he met with Dula. Dula is a furniture manufacturer that works with Apple to create some of the furniture and hardware used in Apple's retail stores.

    Cook took a tour of the factory and then headed to Berlin to meet with the developers behind the Kitchen Stories app. Created by two women in 2014, Kitchen Stories is a recipe app that walks users through each step using photos and videos.

    During his time at Kitchen Stories, Cook also met with Refinery29 for an exclusive interview where he talked about women in the workplace, diversity, wage gaps, and more.


    Cook was specifically questioned about the German start up scene, where just 13.9 percent of lead roles are held by women. According to Cook, improving that rate hinges on a work environment that "encourages and motivates women to participate." He went on to say that it's a problem that needs to be tackled early in life, in schools, with young women encouraged to enter the STEM field.

    Pay equality was also a subject, and Cook explained that Apple pays all employees equally regardless of gender, something all companies should do.
    Cook's full comments can be read over at Refinery29, but the original interview is in German and will need to be translated.

    Following his short trip to Germany, Cook will head to Scotland on Wednesday where he will accept an honorary degree from the University of Glasgow.

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  2. WarHeadz, Feb 7, 2017
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2017

    WarHeadz macrumors 6502a


    Aug 30, 2015
    Long Beach, California
    How is this political or social?

    Edit: Nevermind, you guys already managed to make it political.
  3. btrach144 macrumors 68000


    Aug 28, 2015
  4. Dilster3k macrumors 6502a


    Jul 20, 2014
  5. ILuvEggplant Suspended


    Jul 28, 2016
    Los Angeles, CA
    fantastic Tim Cook!

    Equal pay for equal work.

    If you have a problem with this then you are the problem.
  6. Chupa Chupa macrumors G5

    Chupa Chupa

    Jul 16, 2002
    Hard at work on that exciting product pipeline I see.
  7. simonmet, Feb 7, 2017
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    simonmet macrumors 68020


    Sep 9, 2012
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought there were laws to guarantee this in most western countries already?

    Added: I'm aware sexism and mysogeny exists in workplaces, but so does homophobia, racism and discrimination against anyone with a disability or mental illness. Heaven help you if you have more than one of the above.

    I have 3 significant disadvantages (out of the above) which probably explains my frequent employment difficulties and current unemployment.

    But in my experience, sexism is one of the lesser forms of discrimination compared to others I've encountered.
  8. Porco macrumors 68030


    Mar 28, 2005
    I agree with Tim/Apple on pay equality. It's ludicrous that anyone doing the same job at the same company is not paid the same pay for no good reason (being male or female is not a good reason).
    Left: Cook feels at home in Kitchen Stories. Right: Tim Cook proudly displays the full 2016 Mac desktop computer line-up.
  9. dontworry, Feb 7, 2017
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    dontworry Suspended


    Mar 18, 2010
  10. iapplelove macrumors 601


    Nov 22, 2011
    East Coast USA
    Tim I would love a new iMac,also a new iPad Pro 10" with no bezel.

    Come on make it already lol you have the money to do so.
  11. Chupa Chupa macrumors G5

    Chupa Chupa

    Jul 16, 2002
    Would you settle for a well crafted table?
  12. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    Wow such an original, clever comment.
  13. Glassed Silver macrumors 68020

    Glassed Silver

    Mar 10, 2007
    Kassel, Germany
    Hmm you know, if anything I'd hope that executives of Apple tried a little more to witness other cultures and regions themselves so they can LEAD their teams or see the necessity of smaller regional teams leading and influencing the development of products with respect to local needs and specialties a little more.

    Living in Germany I can tell you that Google's got the localization down quite well, Apple not so much.

    This doesn't "just happen", it needs leaders to recognize and gain their own overview, or blindly trust the hopefully qualified people to lead such efforts.

    This will become more crucial as we move into an ever more personalized, smart world of technology that people will undoubtedly interact with more naturally and intimately.

    Glassed Silver:win
  14. krause734, Feb 7, 2017
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    krause734 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 30, 2010
    Tim Cuck is more like it. Getting owned by Windows and Android while he looks at tables.
  15. Pakaku macrumors 68020


    Aug 29, 2009
    I didn't know Tim was the one physically working on everything. Isn't he employing other people to do that?
  16. citysnaps macrumors 601

    Oct 10, 2011
    San Francisco
    No, just doing the things a CEO for one of the largest companies in the world is supposed to do from time to time. You might not know other CEOs do the same thing.
  17. gim macrumors 6502


    Jul 27, 2014
    True words. But in the end, it's all about profitability. You can clearly see how Apple is working hard on localizations for markets like China and India, because there is so much potential money to be made there.
    But for Germany and other European countries? Not so much. Android is dominating in Germany with almost 80% market share, so I'm pretty sure we will have to keep living with a really bad German Siri, no Apple Pay, and so on...

    The language on my iPhone has always been English. That doesn't solve all the problems, but at least Siri is useable this way.
  18. Shaun, UK Suspended

    Shaun, UK

    Mar 23, 2006
    As an employer different employees have a different value to my company based on their skills, experience and productivity level. They might be doing the same job but they're all paid different amounts regardless of gender.

    Equal pay sounds great in principle but it's not that simple for many companies.
  19. CausticSoda macrumors 6502


    Feb 14, 2014
    Abu Dhabi
  20. Wowereit macrumors 6502a

    Feb 1, 2016
    Haven't really noticed that at any place I worked.
    What I noticed is that men in general are working longer hours and simply negotiate more often.

    I always felt like most women want their employer to acknowledge their work and give them a pay raise automatically. Truth is that won't happen. If you want something you have to push for it.
  21. El Burro Suspended

    El Burro

    Sep 7, 2009
    You're the problem.
  22. Galacticos macrumors 6502a


    Apr 5, 2016
    Just when I thought tim might actually be off trying to eek out one tiny semblance of a creative thought, he comes out with this.

    women in societies that are *more free* (more opportunities and less finance based decisions on work - western nations) choose carer jobs (traditional female positions) more than those societies (emerging economies like Bangladesh) that are more effected by economic scarcity, where women choose stem jobs in higher numbers.

    So tim is right when he says women need encouragement and motivation, because they themselves (generally) don't want to work in stem when other choices are available. Tim and many sjw's seem to have a problem with what women choose for themselves
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    Shame on you for perpetuating this myth.

    The wage gap =total male revenue -total female revenue.

    If you think that's a clever way to see if men and women get 'equal pay for equal work' you should stay far far away from stem
  23. Glideslope macrumors 603


    Dec 7, 2007
    A quiet place in NY.
  24. ck2875 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 25, 2009
  25. btrach144 macrumors 68000


    Aug 28, 2015

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