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This was the everyone-and-the-kitchen-sink list they start with, just to have something to work with as they cut it down.

It should also be noted that this was Podesta's first cut. We haven't seen any response from Clinton.

I find his opening comment far more interesting:

I have organized names in rough food groups.

Is that how Podesta classifies people -- into "food groups" according to their gender or race?
 
Every SOS before Clinton also had their own emails servers...

No, they didn't. Stop listening to this BS from the Clinton campaign.

Colin Powell used a private email account (I think it was AOL), back before there was any policy against doing so. But, that was when use of email at Dept. of State wasn't widespread, and one of the things Powell eventually did was "put a computer on every desk" to make it possible.

Madeline Albright and Condoleeza Rice didn't use email at all, although their staff reportedly did. This was confirmed by the Inspector General.

By the time Clinton took office as SoS, there were explicit policies against it. An announcement went out to Dept. of State staff reiterating that policy, undersigned by Clinton. She later told the FBI she wasn't aware of that message -- one of her many lapses of memory.

In fact, an ambassador to Kenya was about to be disciplined in 2011 for violating that policy, but he resigned instead.

Powell wrote a memo to Clinton about his initiative. But, he recently told a reporter: "Her people have been trying to pin it on me. The truth is she was using [her personal email] for a year before I sent her a memo telling her what I did."
 
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Powell wrote a memo to Clinton about his initiative. But, he recently told a reporter: "Her people have been trying to pin it on me. The truth is she was using [her personal email] for a year before I sent her a memo telling her what I did."
Umm, hate to break it to you, but Powell lied about this one. His emails were hacked (hers weren't, btw), and there was a chain of emails where he was telling her how he hated the government email and advised her when she asked him. Date? Third week of January 2009.

What she did is wrong yes, but don't pretend she's the only one who did it and Powell didn't, his setup was even worse than hers and more primitive.
 
No, they didn't. Stop listening to this BS from the Clinton campaign.

Colin Powell used a private email account (I think it was AOL), back before there was any policy against doing so. But, that was when use of email at Dept. of State wasn't widespread, and one of the things Powell eventually did was "put a computer on every desk" to make it possible.

Madeline Albright and Condoleeza Rice didn't use email at all, although their staff reportedly did. This was confirmed by the Inspector General.

By the time Clinton took office as SoS, there were explicit policies against it. An announcement went out to Dept. of State staff reiterating that policy, undersigned by Clinton. She later told the FBI she wasn't aware of that message -- one of her many lapses of memory.

In fact, an ambassador to Kenya was about to be disciplined in 2011 for violating that policy, but he resigned instead.

Powell wrote a memo to Clinton about his initiative. But, he recently told a reporter: "Her people have been trying to pin it on me. The truth is she was using [her personal email] for a year before I sent her a memo telling her what I did."
Was there a law against it? If there wasn't, then it's not a crime. Sorry.
 
It most certainly would have been a hot ticket item and one that would have swayed many current Hillary voters away.

Tim is a great guy (on the occasions I've met him he's been very cool to chat with) but he's not in a spot to be Vice President of the US. If there was any real discussion about having him on as the VP ticket, I'm sure they shyly away in part because of his sexual preference. Look at how much how hard the Republicans push against Hillary just because she's a woman. Now imagine you add homosexual to the ticket too.

It was very difficult to elect our first non-white president. It's incredibly difficult to make our first female president happen. It would be beyond extremely difficult to do female president and gay vice president on the same ticket in a time when neither has been done, much less nominated. While I'm sure we'll see it happen in the future, doing so in 2016 would have been a pretty impossible combo.

I respectfully disagree with the premise of this post. It wreaks of inherent racism and sexism...just the politically correct versions. Total red herrings to act as a cover to sneak in the most corrupt and diabolical leadership. It's 2016 and race and sex should NOT be a serious deciding factor in elections. To make it so just constitutes the manipulation of low information "non thinking" voters. Honesty, integrity, loyalty, effective leadership, diplomacy, negotiating skills etc should be more of the things we asses our politicians by.
 
A woman AND a gay chap running the USA? Gosh, America just had 2 terms of a black president. I don't know if they could handle that. I mean have you seen the filth with this election? Sheesh!

It doesn't matter whether that actually happens. What matters is that they aren't effectively barred from the role due to cultural stigma. That Canada was silly enough to elect Trudeau worries me. It's almost as ridiculous as electing someone who preys on xenophobia, such as Trump. I hope we don't make the same mistake.
 
Was there a law against it? If there wasn't, then it's not a crime. Sorry.
There was no law against it, and like I said in my response, Powell lied when he said she used it for a year before she talked to him, he told her about his email third week of January, days after she took office.
 
Umm, hate to break it to you, but Powell lied about this one. His emails were hacked (hers weren't, btw), and there was a chain of emails where he was telling her how he hated the government email and advised her when she asked him. Date? Third week of January 2009.

I think you should go back and read the message again:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/colin-powell-clinton-emails-228135

What she did is wrong yes, but don't pretend she's the only one who did it and Powell didn't, his setup was even worse than hers and more primitive.

There's no dispute that Powell did something similar. But, his tenure as SoS was before there was an explicit policy against it, instituted in 2005:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/state-department-email-rule-hillary-clinton-115804
 
Was there a law against it? If there wasn't, then it's not a crime. Sorry.

It doesn't matter whether it was a crime or not.

You can be fired from your job for violation of a policy.

It's a failure of leadership to not abide by the very policy you are expected to enforce.
 
He came He saw. Macs died.
I'm just hoping against better judgment that maybe, just maybe, something awesome other than iOS related will emerge from Cupertino. Although I'm mostly very satisfied with what I've got, there's always that eternal quest for improvement, that innate desire that has propelled the human race forward from the Stone Age.

Maybe I'm just not patient enough anymore. Blow us away Tim!
 
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I think you should go back and read the message again:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/colin-powell-clinton-emails-228135



There's no dispute that Powell did something similar. But, his tenure as SoS was before there was an explicit policy against it, instituted in 2005:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/state-department-email-rule-hillary-clinton-115804
Here's the email I'm referring to, dated January 23 2009:

http://www.vox.com/2016/9/8/12846988/colin-powell-hillary-clinton-email

So again, he lied.
 
Why would anyone want to waste their time on this? Especially one of the most powerful CEOs in the world?
 
It doesn't matter whether that actually happens. What matters is that they aren't effectively barred from the role due to cultural stigma. That Canada was silly enough to elect Trudeau worries me. It's almost as ridiculous as electing someone who preys on xenophobia, such as Trump. I hope we don't make the same mistake.
What's wrong with Trudeau? I'm not Canadian so maybe there's more to it, but from what I've heard from my friends there he's a wonderful leader.
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edit: as usual the political threads in the macrumors forum are the best place to find new additions to the ignore list..
Oh my yes. I tried not to mute anyone but the past few months have just been awful. I might unmute them at a later date, it depends on how awful they still are.
(awful= bigoted, "one rule for my guy, one rule for yours", chanting meaningless piffle)
 
What's wrong with Trudeau? I'm not Canadian so maybe there's more to it, but from what I've heard from my friends there he's a wonderful leader.

Sorry about that. I mixed that one up. Trudeau tends to pander to gender politics. It's silly, and he engineered it this way. It also doesn't reflect the balance of people working in politics overall, which is why he had to engineer it in the first place to get this exact mix.

The point I failed miserably on earlier is that it shouldn't matter whether a candidate for public office is gay, female, not Christian, or not caucasian. It's not an accomplishment to put someone from an under-represented group into office. It's a much better accomplishment if no one cares either way. It's also likely to improve career prospects for people within the aforementioned groups that occupy less visible positions.
 
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