Tim Cook Was Named to Hillary Clinton's List of Vice Presidential Candidates

[thekev]

Yes it is.That's not how the world works, and also why the former absolutely is.

Pandering is not an accomplishment, especially when you aren't actually addressing marginalized groups. You can divide these things across arbitrary criteria. You can also pick members who don't represent the interests of whatever group where they claim membership. Lastly it means very little for the political careers of the vast majority of women and marginalized ethnic groups. He panders to women, yet somehow he never mentions the inuit, which are actually a marginalized group. As I implied, the guy's a tool.

 

[VMMan]

It would have been cool if Tim Cook and Bill Gates were the Dem and Repub VP picks.

 

[shyataroo]

I do not believe that would be the case, personally, I believe that Tim Kaine was always going to be VP. Just think about it like this, the person who was the head of the DNC before Debbie Weiserman Schultz was Tim Kaine, who stepped down to allow her to be the head of the DNC. (Some would argue to rig the system for Hilary) In exchange for being promised vice-presidency once she won.

 

[BvizioN]

How about Tim Cook concentrate on getting the headphone jack back and making new Macs?

How about you are never ever going to get that primitive jack back on new generations iPhones, Like never ever! You can cry all you want about it, or perhaps shut it and buy one of these phones that have an 3.5mm thingy. I bet you are one of these who wouldn't mind to still have a Mac packed with floppy disk, dvd/cd drive, various card reader slots, IEEE 1394, 5 or 6 USB ports, and couple of USB C all in a mix.
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Well, that would have made government thinner.

Nope. That would have been Jonathan Ive.

 

[lowendlinux]

Steve Jobs was an animal.

Yes, an a$$

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I don't think Tim word be a bad VP he seems to do best when he's number two and left to do his own thing. While I'm not sure how genuine his public persona is he seems pretty unflappable which would go a long way in DC.

 

[MacBH928]

lets just face it,

This guy is just not passionate about the computer business like Steve was. He might be a talented guy, just not the right guy to lead Apple.

 

[gnasher729]

Yeah, I don't know when "Republican = Conservative" showed up, but it's a load of Mortadella.

It's like Christians who apparently have no idea what the teachings of Jesus were, and have adopted a "Hate everybody that's isn't "Christian (i.e. Old, White & Cranky)".

Well, you can throw away all of christianity as long as you keep the one line "love your neighbour as you love yourself". On the other hand, if you don't accept that one line, then you are not a Christian, no matter what you pretend.

 

[prowlmedia]

Since this is a political thread I will disagree with you vehemently. When my neighbors decide that we need to have a public school, and take money from me so I cannot afford to send my own kids to a different school, then I need to go and argue with the school board about why the biology textbook should teach evolution. Now I am having a political argument with my neighbors. However, if instead they structured things so that I could choose which school to go to my neighbors could teach whatever they wanted about evolution and I could send my kids to a school about evolution. The long and short of it is - in more free societies less and less things become political. In less free societies become political. In China everything - even down to the number of kids you have - is political. In the US - increasingly everything down to how I formalized consent for sexual relations - is political. But in free countries less and less becomes political and people can mind their own business without getting into fights with neighbors about the contents of biology textbooks. So in my mind, very little should involve politics.

You are arguing with yourself here.... Didn't say it was right did I, just that it's true. Where does the money come for those books... for the school... where that school can be built. Is it on some land that shouldn't be built As SOME level everything boils down to politics. It's fundamental. Who you voted for now will effects everything to come.

Politics is defined as the process of making decisions applying to all members of each group. Unfortunately politics seems to be about Rasicsm, Sexisim, Thin Skins, Lies, Massive Egos and Tiny hands these days.
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I understand you love Timmy, it's ok.

Well done for making Zero sense at all.

 

[9081094]

Name one product Apple is taking serious these days?

iOS, iPhone? You can say what you want about Google, but their Pixel is as good (even better camera and screen) as apple's iPhone. Better services and latest OS.

I've lost my faith in Apple around this time last year. Everything they came up this year was underwhelming, crippled for non English speaking nations and overpriced. More and more people start to notice and once I'm freed from the Apple jail ecosystem, I'll never turn back. The only thing that's holding me back is OS X... I hope they'll open source it so other brands who take computers serious have the chance to offer something nice.

If they don't introduce new computers with up to date tech, they could at least lower the prices at their offerings now. Focusing on China and India? People care less about the 'status' Apple has. They want state of the art tech for reasonable prices. What's the cost of other 4 year old A-brand today? Don't tell me it's intels fault... there are so much other areas where they could improve.

Proprietary ports and cables, that's where Apple excels in. It's to lure you away from any freedom you have.

Something you wont see anywhere except at Apple. If it was for the better, I can understand but the amount of connections across the line is a total mess and no consistency.

The Apple Watch never sells in big numbers when it can't communicate with 90% the rest of the world is using. And seeing the pace of innovation at Apple I think it stays a niche.

If there will come new MacBook Pro's (4 years... its unexceptable for any computer company) it's coming in at the same steep prices or even more. Others brands will offer the same (even the gimmick oled stripe) next month at half the price. And we all here the kakaphony: you'll see this only at Apple, only Apple can do this.

The brand is getting tired

 

[AdonisSMU]

Yeah, I don't know when "Republican = Conservative" showed up, but it's a load of Mortadella.

It's like Christians who apparently have no idea what the teachings of Jesus were, and have adopted a "Hate everybody that's isn't "Christian (i.e. Old, White & Cranky)".

Christians always skip over that line in the Bible and even still have the nerve to call themselves christians.

 

[SactoGuy18]

But yet, why did Hillary Clinton choose Tim Kaine? I cite two reasons:

1. Kaine--unlike most of the candidates on that list--has real executive-level government experience, given he was Governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia before becoming US Senator. That is a huge plus in the eyes of many.

2. He's only 58 years old, and is vastly more hale than Hillary. There are concerns about Hillary's health (given she'll turn 69 in one week), and having a competent Vice President being able to step in any time is another huge plus.

 

[diipii]

"Birds of a feather"

 

[patseguin]

How about you are never ever going to get that primitive jack back on new generations iPhones, Like never ever! You can cry all you want about it, or perhaps shut it and buy one of these phones that have an 3.5mm thingy. I bet you are one of these who wouldn't mind to still have a Mac packed with floppy disk, dvd/cd drive, various card reader slots, IEEE 1394, 5 or 6 USB ports, and couple of USB C all in a mix.
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Hurray! I couldn't have said it any better. I am so sick of hearing people whine about the damned headphone jack.

 

[mchoffa]

I've always thought Tim sounded more Libertarian when he's spoken on issues. 100% for equality AND 100% for privacy, even to the point of fighting against Obama's administration and the FBI. I would venture to guess that he's also 100% for fiscal responsibility and against war.

 

[hsotnicam8002]

Well AppleCare works.

 

[Sandstorm]

I actually think Tim Cook would be a good politician (as much as I don't like what he has done with Apple).

 

[Zombie Acorn]

Was Tim Cook in Hillarys gay or white male food group?

 

[Larry-K]

Well, you can throw away all of christianity as long as you keep the one line "love your neighbour as you love yourself". On the other hand, if you don't accept that one line, then you are not a Christian, no matter what you pretend.

That is an almost universal concept regardless of religion, which unfortunately, is almost universally ignored.
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Christians always skip over that line in the Bible and even still have the nerve to call themselves christians.

I'm almost certain most Christians have never read the bible. You could say almost almost anything, tag on a chapter and verse, and they'd go for it.

I'm sure somebody is making up a biblical quote about an "Orange Man from the West", as I type.

 

[Benjamin Frost]

That is an almost universal concept regardless of religion, which unfortunately, is almost universally ignored.
[doublepost=1476902758][/doublepost]I'm almost certain most Christians have never read the bible. You could say almost almost anything, tag on a chapter and verse, and they'd go for it.

I'm sure somebody is making up a biblical quote about an "Orange Man from the West", as I type.

Not everyone may have read the Bible, but we all commonly use and hear quotes from it. 'There's nothing new under the sun.' 'A time and a place.' I'm sad that Steve Jobs 'gave up the ghost'.

Important book.

 

[Tiger8]

Where does it say that email was dated 2009-01-23?

Clinton's ORIGINAL email had that date, but his reply is undated.

In the article it says he responded 2009-01-23, 5th paragraph

 

[Larry-K]

But yet, why did Hillary Clinton choose Tim Kaine? I cite two reasons:

1. Kaine--unlike most of the candidates on that list--has real executive-level government experience, given he was Governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia before becoming US Senator. That is a huge plus in the eyes of many.

2. He's only 58 years old, and is vastly more hale than Hillary. There are concerns about Hillary's health (given she'll turn 69 in one week), and having a competent Vice President being able to step in any time is another huge plus.

Since the average women's life expectancy is over 80 for women, I don't know why people are making this a big deal out of this, refer to Reagan's famous line about age.

Besides, she's very likely in better health than a her even older, opponent, who apparently never gets a good night's sleep, and sniffles like a coke-fiend.

She chose him because he's "mostly harmless".

 

[0098386]

Sorry about that. I mixed that one up. Trudeau tends to pander to gender politics. It's silly, and he engineered it this way. It also doesn't reflect the balance of people working in politics overall, which is why he had to engineer it in the first place to get this exact mix.

The point I failed miserably on earlier is that it shouldn't matter whether a candidate for public office is gay, female, not Christian, or not caucasian. It's not an accomplishment to put someone from an under-represented group into office. It's a much better accomplishment if no one cares either way. It's also likely to improve career prospects for people within the aforementioned groups that occupy less visible positions.

Eh, I've got to disagree. I think it's important as it has the power to inspire others from similar backgrounds.

The perfect situation is to get far enough along where their backgrounds don't matter. But that's the reward.

But also, is that the only thing you don't like Trudeau for? I mean, of all his policies and his parties goals - you dislike him for this one, which considering what the US is voting for, is flirting much closer to a war?

 

[steve333]

It would have been cool if Tim Cook and Bill Gates were the Dem and Repub VP picks.

A choice between a pandering leftwinger and a Monsanto blowing creep?
Not very cool.

 

[jozeppy26]

She chose him because he's "mostly harmless".

and he speaks fluent spanish, and he's from a state with a democratic governor to fill his seat with another democrat by appointment when they win the election, and that state is a semi-swing state, and he's squeaky clean having been vetted by Obama for VP, and he has plenty of experience to do the job, and he's a white male moderate.

Tim Kaine is a boring yet safe "harmless" choice, like you said, but with a few perks. My complaint is this choice makes no thought of 2024, ain't no way Kaine can win the nomination. #Booker2024
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I am curious what someone's gender and sexual orientation have to do with competence or "coolness". It sounds awfully sexist and sexual-oreintation-ist to consider this as some sort of qualification - or disqualification - when the only things that matter are competence.

Of course competency (and experience) is all that matters for most of us who aren't sexist or homophobic. Unfortunately, many people she needs to appeal to are still those things. This is politics. Winning the White House is priority #1 for Hillary. The VP should never be risky unless polling and the electoral map requires it as your only hope for a bounce back. Picking a gay man as VP is a huge risk since half of this country are dicks

 

[Larry-K]

and he speaks fluent spanish, and he's from a state with a democratic governor to fill his seat with another democrat by appointment when they win the election, and that state is a semi-swing state, and he's squeaky clean having been vetted by Obama for VP, and he has plenty of experience to do the job, and he's a white male moderate.

Tim Kaine is a boring yet safe "harmless" choice, like you said, but with a few perks. My complaint is this choice makes no thought of 2024, ain't no way Kaine can win the nomination.

"Mostly Harmless" in a "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" way.

2024? I should be dead by then, but enjoy!