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Time Capsule Arrives, Early Notes

now all we need

Now all we need is for someone to release matching drive cases. (time capsule uses the larger Apple TV form factor not Mac Mini one)
 
Hemingray said:
Excellent example. I used to only use SuperDuper until Time Machine. Now I use both backup types side-by-side for exactly that scenario.

Time Machine: rolling back to a previously saved version of a document.
Super Duper: Clone for a bad HD or some update that goes horribly wrong.
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Having to reinstall OS X and then use the Time Machine backup to restore is a lot less of a hassle than to backup to SuperDuper regularly. Personally I'm very pleased with TM. I back my PB up to it maybe once a week or sooner if I've recently worked on some important stuff. So far it's saved my tail exactly once. Definitely worth the upgrade to Leopard ... especially since 10.5.2 came out.

MrCrowbar said:
Can we have some speed benchmarks? I have a Mac Mini and a Macbook. It's pretty much impossible to transfer files larger than 100 MB from one to another because it takes forever and usually stalls after a few MB, sometimes with "disconnected" errors. The Mac Mini is hooked up via 100 Mbit Ethernet to the Router, Macbook is on Wireless g (54 Mb/s) with full bars all the time. Any help?

Seriously, I barely get 1 MB/s across using AFS or SMB. Is Time Capsule better, i.e. is it quick enough for casual backups and video streaming?
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Sounds like a problem with your setup (maybe it's the router?). My PB and my wife's MB have no speed issues with our current router and we transfer files to each other wirelessly on both ends.

BongoBanger said:
Of course, home storage - which is what 90% of these devices will be used for - is fairly pointless. Back up off site or you're kind of missing the point.
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Who says you have to do it off site? Throw your backup drive in a $40 fireproof safe, which are just about indestructible, if you're that paranoid. Heck, if your house goes up in smoke you aren't going to care about your backup or computer period.
 
portishead said:
You should do some more research then:

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2007/11/08/why-leopards-time-machine-doesnt-support-airport-disks/

"The problem is that integrity cannot be guaranteed — the AirPort acknowledges receipt of the data before it’s actually written, and if power is interrupted, the disk disconnected, yadayadayada in the window between the Airport acknowledging receipt and the data actually getting written out to disk, it’s gone forever with no way to recover it or even realize it’s gone missing.

That, Apple felt, is a big enough problem to disable the feature for initial release."
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Right - so unless they've actually made a hardware change between AEBS and Time Machine, then this behaviour, if that's what the problem was, is all in firmware. If they fixed the code for Time Machine, they could fix it for AEBS. I think they should.
 
Kinda wish Apple would have shipped this thing last week. Put in my order the day it came out and put off doing a backup. Hard drive crashed on Thursday with 100 gigs of stuff and the thing shipped the next day. Nice timing.
 
Small White Car said:
I'm not quite clear on the software...

Anyone know if I could plug in 2 external drives and assign each of my 3 computers to each of the 3 back-up drives?

So MacPro -> Time Capsule internal drive
iMac -> USB Drive 1
Macbook Pro -> USB Drive 2

Would that be possible or it just going to throw everything onto the first drive until it's full?
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i think it creates 3 folders. checks the macaddress and backup stuff like that.
 
Small White Car said:
I'm not quite clear on the software...

Anyone know if I could plug in 2 external drives and assign each of my 3 computers to each of the 3 back-up drives?

So MacPro -> Time Capsule internal drive
iMac -> USB Drive 1
Macbook Pro -> USB Drive 2

Would that be possible or it just going to throw everything onto the first drive until it's full?
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Each drive will be a separate volume, if you partition any of the usb drives then each of them will be a separate volume, Time machine needs to be assigned to a volume. So just select different volumes on the different systems.
 
Mine still says "Prepared for Shipment" Ships by Feb. 29. Anyone else still have the "Prepared for Shipment" tag?
 
First backup of a large drive wirelessly would be painfully slow. I'd be hoping I didn't have any critical data for a day or 2.
 
url said:
after reading the release notes of the TC i note they mention using version 5.3 of airport admin

however i only have 5.22 installed in leopard and apple offers no update on software update so i think when they update this we will get the firmware upgrade for our base stations

well thats my guess anyway
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I really really hope you're right!
Otherwise I'll give Apple a call!

P.S. It's quite a pain to read through this thread with 10 replies to noobish's post about the MBA and the suggestion to do the first TC backup with an ethernet cable...
 
kbmb said:
I can't remember but did Apple ever advertise this AFTER Leopard was released?

I remember before Leopard was released, every page on Apple.com that talked about Leopard and it's features had the disclaimer that features can change, etc, etc.

No doubt that it was originally suppose to work. For some reason, Apple decided to pull it. Why, only Apple knows.

-Kevin
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yeah, I don't really care if time machine works with AEBS anymore, but I want a working airdisk, one that'll allow me to transfer more than 100 Mb from my windows machine (I know, I know), I find it inexcusable that none of my macs have trouble transfering gigabytes of date but transfering from windows just freezes the base station. and that is an advertised feature "it just works"

And I do have my drive formatted to fat32 son that should not be the problem
 
I use 2 macs...
Does the TM sync files between the 2 macs? Let's say I make something in Photoshop on Mac 1, I turn on my Mac 2, does it update the files automatically?

Can it run when the router feature is turned off? We already have a router in house and I don't want to conflict with a second router. So I mean: no routing, only WIFI access.
 
JW008 said:
Can Time Capsule be used for things other than Time Machine backups? For example, could I put files on it and then access it from my laptop?
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i think that would be a logical assumption.

lazyrighteye said:
I bought a AEBS 3 weeks before TC was announced.
I returned it, no questions asked.
But now that it is here, I am beginning to wonder if it will meet my needs.

1. Storing all media files (music, movies, etc.) that are accessible by 2 separate Accounts on one MacBook.
2. Backing up both of those accounts - which brings up a question: does TM back up my entire Mac or just the User Account that initiates said backup? Meaning do I need to run TM from my account and my wife from hers, or will one backup do the whole computer?

Additional questions...
3. Can I store media files AND backup to the same TC drive?
4. When TC's drive is full of backups, are you done? Can you reformat the drive and start all over?

Obviously, I'm new to the backup/shared drive concept.
Any tips are appreciated.

TIA.
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1. would love to know that too. 2. i think it backs up all files. not only the home directory. 3. i believe so. 4. you should be able to reformat and start all over.

SolRayz said:
So let me get this straight...with TC you will be able to backup with TM on a usb external drive as well as the internal. Correct?
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was this question answered yet?

phuong said:
so, i already have AEBS+USB drive.
now i buy Time Capsule

should i sell the AEBS?
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might not be a bad idea.

Cyberthato said:
yeah, I don't really care if time machine works with AEBS anymore, but I want a working airdisk, one that'll allow me to transfer more than 100 Mb from my windows machine (I know, I know), I find it inexcusable that none of my macs have trouble transfering gigabytes of date but transfering from windows just freezes the base station. and that is an advertised feature "it just works"

And I do have my drive formatted to fat32 son that should not be the problem
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maybe you should consider checking your pc setup...
 
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out of interest when you run the aebs at full whack 5ghz at 'n' standard its supposed to be 300mbits... What real world throughput has been seen at this speed?
 
Its strange that some people can't see why TC is a good idea for some people. We've got an iMac here as well as a couple of laptops, one for me and one for her. Quite a few people I know have a similar sort of setup and I can only see that number of machines increasing once our kids are older.

The last thing my wife would want to do would be to hook up an external HDD to her laptop to back up her data. With TC, I don't have to worry about it, all 3 machines will be backed up automatically and wirelessly. Time Machine itself is a great idea as it brings backups to the masses if that makes sense. Suddenly its easy for joe public to have their machine backed up automatically and with an easy-to-understand interface. TC is just a natural extension of that surely?

As for the price, I don't think its too bad considering the prices of other NAS devices and the fact you get an AEBS in there too which I can see some people using as a wireless extender alongside their existing AEBS or other base station.

People have also said that Time Machine just eats up disk space, but remember that you can exclude folders so that they're not backed up. I know some people will always want to do a clean install if they have problems, so will just back up their user data directory anyway.

With the price of DVDs and external HDDs, alongside programs like Super Duper, there's loads of options for people to back their systems up in whatever way they see fit.

Maybe I'm missing something, but when I heard of TC I just thought it was a brilliant idea and one which was so simple, I couldn't believe it hadn't been done before tbh.

And no, mine hasn't arrived yet! Not until next Friday apparently, so who knows where its coming from!
 
syklee26 said:
me still thinks this is waste of money....what is so difficult about plugging your External Drive onto your USB or Firewire? 500gb external USB drives cost around $120 and if 1TB ATA drive prices fall, you can just buy the drive and replace it in the external closure.

of course, that voids the warranty for external drive but i thought warranties for those external drives were useless since you can't get back what you lost during the damage anyway.

I guess if you have no airport extreme then $299 for 500GB is reasonable but noway in earth $499 for 1TB is reasonable.
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Yea..totally right. 500 bucks....what a crappy suggestion.
But I´m sure you can change the drive later inside of the 500 GB version.
 
unless you NEED to have wireless TM backups, theres really no reason to buy a TC. You get better bang with a AEBS and a external drive.
 
dannyar said:
unless you NEED to have wireless TM backups, theres really no reason to buy a TC. You get better bang with a AEBS and a external drive.
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By Bang you mean when you @&$$&&$#%#%%#%%# after realizing that it simply doesn't work, doesn't mount the AirDisk nor :apple: support answers nor gives a solution?
does yours AirDisk work?
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yay! Finally got my shipping email this morning! Now just the four days to get to Austin...
 
What's the point of having a 7200 RPM drive primarily intended to be used wirelessly?

Also, this is a long shot, but do you think it would be possible to connect anything else but printers and external hard drives to TC's USB port? Like, say, audio interfaces or digital cameras?...
 
Possible AEBS w/ TM hack

I agree that removing the AEBS USB drive backup support from Time Machine is total BS and should be corrected by Apple.

Having said that ...

There are a few threads around which indicate a command line hack that's apparently worked for a few folks and enabled backup to AEBS attached USB drives. I don't have an AEBS so can't confirm this but maybe it will work?

http://www.macosxhints.com/comment.php?mode=view&cid=92090&query=Ethernet disk TimeMachine
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4402934

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There is a hidden system preference that needs to be change. This can be done by typing the following command in the Terminal:

defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1

I plan on getting a 500GB TC myself and then attaching my printer and USB drives using a USB hub. I'm hoping to have a network printer and the extra drives setup as network shares. Anyone have this setup working?

Cheers.
 
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