5 MB/s is 40 Mbps. That's slow. My cheap ftp/samba server can do 30 Mbps and it cost less than 30 euros + the drive. Can't do Time Machine, of course, but still... a faster CPU for the AEBS would have been better. How fast is the TC?
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Time Machine Now Works with Airport Extreme USB Drives
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5 MB/s is 40 Mbps. That's slow. My cheap ftp/samba server can do 30 Mbps and it cost less than 30 euros + the drive. Can't do Time Machine, of course, but still... a faster CPU for the AEBS would have been better. How fast is the TC?
How was I supposed to know they were going to fix it at all? I don't have access to their product enhancement list or roadmap.
Thats how I felt, then I realized the HD I was drooling to use it on worked, but I don't think it is big enough, it should minimally match your full HD with room for more, some say double it.
did you do the firmware update through airport as well? Thats separate from the software update.
Then you go into finder and simply navigate to the drives under your base station and they should populate in Time Machine.
yet that's not the case
I am a bit concerned about some of these changes:
1) Apple does not yet have a statement that Time Machine can use an AirDisk
2) The Airport does not have a statement that the AirDisk can be used with TM
3) TM records into the disk differently when connected directly to a USB drive, it creates a series of folders and stores the backup in a folder with the machine name.
4) TM when connected to a drive via AirDisk, skips the creation of the directory structure and instead it writes the backups at the root level of the drive
5) TM is unable to take into consideration the previous backups that were created when the drive was directly connected to the Mac and does not attempt to convert the old backup to the new format (sparse tree).
Before you answer, I understand things are working, but the big question in my mind is: Is this what Apple intended, for the two methods to produce so completely different results? and Is the fact that is working an accident given that Apple has yet to post the capability?
My backups are very important to me, this makes me nervous.
From what I'm reading, the way these backups are stored is the same as how backups are stored on shared network volumes.
yet that's not the case
I think what I did involved a restart and reconnecting of the HD, simple steps I'm sure you have already moved past, but beyond that it should be available in Time Machine.
Perhaps you should do what works in all depictions of the techno-infused future... thump the HD a few times with your finger. //what kind of HD are you using?
Time Capsule
It is an Airport Extreme with the HD built in, so you don't need to buy an external one. Works for some people, doesn't for others.
Airdisk
It is an Airport Extreme with your own external HD plugged into the USB port in the back (hubs work too) and the disk becomes available over the network via wifi - sans Airdisk.
Okay, just to clear up some confusion:
AirDisk is an Airport Extreme (802.11n only) feature that allows you to access USB drives connected to your
Airport Extreme router from either Tiger, Leopard, or certain versions of Windows.With this latest update, if the external hard drive is formatted correctly, you can use the external hard drive as a repository for your Time Machine backups (Leopard only).
Okay, just to clear up some confusion:
AirDisk is an Airport Extreme (802.11n only) feature that allows you to access USB drives connected to your
With this latest update, if the external hard drive is formatted correctly, you can use the external hard drive as a repository for your Time Machine backups (Leopard only).
Well done! There was no confusion I just didn't get all Chris Knight in my answer. Thanks for making it more specific... I think?
Nice that the external HD in the image was the G-Tech - Well made HD (and it looks purty too).
Apple is selling 1TB G-RAID2s as Time Machine drives in the stores. I use them as media drives at work...they rock.
-mark
I downloaded the "work around" a few months ago (i found out about it here)
should I delete something, I forget what it was called....
thanks for your help.
-Jeff
should I delete something, I forget what it was called....
thanks for your help.
-Jeff
That will be invented right after they find a way where people can talk to each other wirelessly!
Thank you for your help. I did what you suggested (created a new network) and it captured all of my previous settings. I guess I'm not the brightest guy around. Maybe you could answer one more question for me? I have my cable modem plugged into my AEBS and then I have an ethernet cable that plugs from the base station directly into my iMac. Given this, is it necessary for me to have Airport turned on?Actually, No, the process resets the base station, he needs to tell it to create a new network, all of the settings will be saved, but it needs to know to start over as the base, even in a WDS as other express stations are merely "repeating" the signal.
After telling it to start a new network it will lose the IP from before, so it might be a good idea to reset the modem (while airport unplugged), then after it has captured a new IP - plug airport back in and it will acquire the new address for you.
I have three (my favorite being the 250GB G-Tech mini for traveling). I believe in lots of redundancy when it comes to storing pixel information! But i don't have the 1TB ... yet
I don't trust just one backup
I would love to use Time Machine, but I just can't bring myself to trust just one backup of my data. I've always used rsync to make a backup over the net and then rsync'ed that backup to yet another drive. (Yes, I've had my system die and my backup die also at the same time, so I just don't trust one backup.) I currently have 3/4 TB attached to a Mac Mini which remote mounts all other systems in the house, backs them up, then unmounts them and starts rsyncs in the background to make another copy of the saves.
If I use Time Machine over the net, the system creates a "sparsebundle" disk. It then mounts this as a normal volume and backs up to there. The "sparsebundle" disk can only be mounted on one system at a time. This means that since my work system has the sparsebundle disk mounted, the system where the remote disk is attached can't mount it locally and make another backup. If I could have a crontab job on the laptop to disable Time Machine, then my laptop could tell my backup drive system to make a copy, then restart Time Machine. I see no way to turn off TM from a script, however.
Yes, I guess I need to setup a RAID network backup disk.
I would love to use Time Machine, but I just can't bring myself to trust just one backup of my data. I've always used rsync to make a backup over the net and then rsync'ed that backup to yet another drive. (Yes, I've had my system die and my backup die also at the same time, so I just don't trust one backup.) I currently have 3/4 TB attached to a Mac Mini which remote mounts all other systems in the house, backs them up, then unmounts them and starts rsyncs in the background to make another copy of the saves.
If I use Time Machine over the net, the system creates a "sparsebundle" disk. It then mounts this as a normal volume and backs up to there. The "sparsebundle" disk can only be mounted on one system at a time. This means that since my work system has the sparsebundle disk mounted, the system where the remote disk is attached can't mount it locally and make another backup. If I could have a crontab job on the laptop to disable Time Machine, then my laptop could tell my backup drive system to make a copy, then restart Time Machine. I see no way to turn off TM from a script, however.
Yes, I guess I need to setup a RAID network backup disk.
Yes I was aware of that, why would it not create the directory structure bothers me in both cases. I am not personally aware of any technical issue as to why a sparse tree could not be created inside a directory tree. Why Apple choose to create directories for direct connects and not for network connections is a mystery to me.
Add to that, the weird build number, the fact that they totally screw-up the copyright, and the fact that the web site does not show the capability and I wonder. Too many Mysteries.
New thread:
Just created a new thread for people to list hardware setup CONFIRMED to work for TimeMachine +USB Hard Drive connected to Airport Extreme Base Station.
If you are lucky enough to have it working, please list your specs here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=5189300#post5189300
I know many of us haven't got it working and are wondering if it our hardware or our setup.
Thanks. Dan
Just created a new thread for people to list hardware setup CONFIRMED to work for TimeMachine +USB Hard Drive connected to Airport Extreme Base Station.
If you are lucky enough to have it working, please list your specs here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=5189300#post5189300
I know many of us haven't got it working and are wondering if it our hardware or our setup.
Thanks. Dan
That is great news for everyone who did not buy TC.
Unfortunately, I received mine yesterday. I would be happy with my Buffalo HD and old AEBS. Now I have to figure out What to do with AEBS!! any suggestions?
Anyone who bought TC is still way ahead of anyone using the common AirDisk method.
Firstly TC is "One" device vs. an AEBS plus an external HDD which both have to be plugged in for power, at least one has a powerbrick plus both have to be hooked together resulting in more wires creating a messy space (and those people doing this KNOW THAT).
TC also supports multiple computers for TM in the household wirelessly and AirDisk does not do that. To those people who bought TC you haven't taken a loss, it's your gain, those others still have a messy setup and less features.
Airport Express does not have HDD capability (at least not yet and probably never will)
TC vs Airport Extreme Base Station is different. The difference is merely choice.
AEBS = you can easily change HDD's
TC = If you touch the internal HDD you voided warranty
TC = You have internal drive plus you can probably hook up another external
Again, it's all choice.
That is probably a yes, very few routers will "pass through" the internet without power. Also, if you don't want to use your AEBS you can remove it from your setup and go straight from the modem to the imac, however most people would not recommend that. What exactly are you trying to achieve?
Did everything set back up as it was supposed to? Is your internet and wifi back on track?
Yes. Everything is working perfectly and again.....thank you! I was curious as to whether I really needed to keep Airport turned on because I *do* have the ethernet cable running from my AEBS to the iMac. It just seems 'kinda redundant and I'm thinking (which can be dangerous for me) that my connection might be a bit faster via the ethernet as opposed to the wireless network?