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Tipster: iPhone 17 Pro to Feature 8x Zoom, Pro Camera App, and More

citysnaps said:
If the first press simultaneously takes a photo and brings you to the Camera app, how do you properly frame your photo as the photo would already be taken as the Camera app launches?
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As it brings you to the camera and takes a photo simultaneously it gives you what you have now but with an additional photo prior to the one where you take more care, as it’s not supposed to be the perfect first photo but a fast snap for when those moments arise. So you don’t end up with a worse photo, you end up with an additional photo you otherwise wouldn’t have. Software could give the user the option to turn this off if they preferred to only take photos they have framed perfectly to their liking with the additional snap-photo not included. In Settings it could be called a “Single Press Photo”.
 
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Mac Fly (film) said:
As it brings you to the camera and takes a photo simultaneously it gives you what you have now but with an additional photo prior to the one where you take more care, as it’s not supposed to be the perfect first photo but a fast snap for when those moments arise. So you don’t end up with a worse photo, you end up with an additional photo you otherwise wouldn’t have.
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That wouldn't work for me (it would be annoying). I don't take snaps without first considering what's in or out of the frame, waiting for the right moment, considering the light and how it falls on a subject, environmental context, gesture, making sure vertical and horizontal elements are truly vertical and horizontal to the frame, and probably a dozen other factors before (all within a second or two) before releasing the shutter.

Without doing the above, that first instant photo (without framing) would be junk 99% of the time.
 
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citysnaps said:
That wouldn't work for me. I don't take snaps without first considering what's in or out of the frame, waiting for the right moment, considering the light and how it falls on a subject, environmental context, gesture, and probably a dozen other factors before (all within a second or two).
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Which is fair, perhaps this aspect can be turned off in Settings of remains off by default. Either way, the fact that button would deliberately not have touch would be the goal. To simplify the button, remove unnecessary redundancy and confusion and help communicate to customers a simple clear quality of life improvement.
 
Mac Fly (film) said:
Either way, the fact that button would deliberately not have touch would be the goal.
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What exactly does that mean. The way it is now, it takes a deliberate press for around a half second to bring up the Camera app. A mere touch doesn't do anything.

Are we talking about the same button?
 
citysnaps said:
What exactly does that mean. The way it is now, it takes a deliberate press for around a half second to bring up the Camera app. A mere touch doesn't do anything.

Are we talking about the same button?
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Yes, and perhaps you are unaware it has touch functionailty on the surface of that button when you're in the Camera app. Lucky for you.
 
Although I have often wished I could take a photo quicker (with my iPhone 13 mini), an impediment to that is that the lens is always dirty (fingerprint smudges that destroy contrast, colour, and even fine detail).

No button can fix the need to quickly wipe the lens on a shirt tail.

Maybe the rumoured moving part of the lens is a little windscreen wiper (not serious).
 
Moreplease said:
Although I have often wished I could take a photo quicker (with my iPhone 13 mini), an impediment to that is that the lens is always dirty (fingerprint smudges that destroy contrast, colour, and even fine detail).

No button can fix the need to quickly wipe the lens on a shirt tail.

Maybe the rumoured moving part of the lens is a little windscreen wiper (not serious).
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Windscreen wiper pro 😅
 
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Mac Fly (film) said:
Yes, and perhaps you are unaware it has touch functionailty on the surface of that button when you're in the Camera app. Lucky for you.
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We're not talking about the same button.

I'm talking about the small physical button located right above the Up & Down Volume buttons, on the left side of the phone. It isn't a "touch" button, and takes a deliberate press - a half second press to open the Camera App, and another press to release the shutter.

The touch button is on the other (right) side of side of the phone.
 
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citysnaps said:
We're not talking about the same button.

I'm talking about the small physical button located right above the Up & Down Volume buttons, on the left side of the phone. It isn't a "touch" button, and takes a deliberate press - a half second press to open the Camera App, and a full/deliberate press to take release the shutter.

The touch button is on the other (right) side of side of the phone.
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Oh, you mean you're talking about the action button? That's not exclusive to the camera, it can have other uses, you just happen to have it set to open the camera. Obviously I was talking about Camera Control if you look at the person I was responding to and all my commentary.
 
I do love the Halde app for taking photos in a plane out the window. With the regular camera I am fighting the focus, the macro focus and by that time the alien spaceship has come and gone. Im stuck with a blurry photo and can't submit that. The issue with the Halde App is it's an insane memory hog. Listening to music and running this app is like a no no. Ive opened it and had to restart it or close every app including music to get it running. So if Apple make a pro app like halde that doesn't kill my phone battery and make me stop listening to music.. I'll be impressed.
 
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Mac Fly (film) said:
Oh, you mean you're talking about the action button? That's not exclusive to the camera, it can have other uses, you just happen to have it set to open the camera. Obviously I was talking about Camera Control.
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Of course. And it works great. In either case... releasing the shutter before framing a photo is not interesting to me.

99% of the time it would be a wasted exposure.
 
Osxguy said:
I do love the Halde app for taking photos in a plane out the window. With the regular camera I am fighting the focus, the macro focus and by that time the alien spaceship has come and gone. Im stuck with a blurry photo and can't submit that. The issue with the Halde App is it's an insane memory hog. Listening to music and running this app is like a no no. Ive opened it and had to restart it or close every app including music to get it running. So if Apple make a pro app like halde that doesn't kill my phone battery and make me stop listening to music.. I'll be impressed.
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Interdimensional craft, you mean 😅
 
Mac Fly (film) said:
The story is not true.
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There is a strong arguement that the average consumer doesn't really need anything more than a 16e or a Pixel 9a in terms of power and battery. The change saved not buying an allegedly-Pro phone might be better spent on a 2nd hand DSLR/Mirrorless instead. I often find my own images taken with a phone, even a good one are really quite disposable whereas whenever I take out my camera there is purpose behind it.
 
As long as iPhone "Pro" still has the major quality issue of ghosting, and lens flare (the random green dots that show up from bright lights or the sun) investing in more video features is rather pointless.

There is nothing "Pro" about any camera with long standing ghosting and lens flare issues.

Will the 17 Pro finally fix this glaring bug? Yes, pun intended.

Atomic layer deposition (ALD): will this fix it, and when?
 
neotint said:
As long as iPhone "Pro" still has the major quality issue of ghosting, and lens flare (the random green dots that show up from bright lights or the sun) investing in more video features is rather pointless.

There is nothing "Pro" about any camera with long standing ghosting and lens flare issues.

Will the 17 Pro finally fix this glaring bug? Yes, pun intended.

Atomic layer deposition (ALD): will this fix it, and when?
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Regarding flaring... which iPhone are you using?

I had that problem with a previous model (an iPhone 14). It was due to the lens rings on the back of the phone being silver in color, and causing off-axis sunlight to reflect into the lens. And was very annoying - especially the green dots.

On my 16PM the lens rings are black. And haven't seen any flaring since.
 
Osxguy said:
I do love the Halde app for taking photos in a plane out the window. With the regular camera I am fighting the focus, the macro focus and by that time the alien spaceship has come and gone.
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I believe you anyway. The truth is out there.
 
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novagamer said:
It’s very useful for flashlight. Sounds stupid, but try it.

As I’ve said before I’m fairly confident the 17 Pro is getting 2TB, video camera improvements make sense as an additional differentiator.

Zoom is probably a crop but we’ll see.
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I NEED 2TB. If that’s the only change I’m still upgrading lol.
 
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citysnaps said:
Regarding flaring... which iPhone are you using?

I had that problem with a previous model (an iPhone 14). It was due to the lens rings on the back of the phone being silver in color, and causing off-axis sunlight to reflect into the lens. And was very annoying - especially the green dots.

On my 16PM the lens rings are black. And haven't seen any flaring since.
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I'm still on a 13 Pro and haven't felt the need to upgrade due to photo quality issues like this. I keep searching around and still see lots of post and videos about the problem, here's a recent one:

15PM vs 16PM Lens flare problem marginally improved, still unresolved.

My main use case is urban street videography, especially at golden hour which is the real test. I use a DJI Osmo Pocket 3 which has zero flare or ghosting problems, but I wish I could just use an iPhone Pro.
 
neotint said:
I'm still on a 13 Pro and haven't felt the need to upgrade due to photo quality issues like this. I keep searching around and still see lots of post and videos about the problem, here's a recent one:

15PM vs 16PM Lens flare problem marginally improved, still unresolved.

My main use case is urban street videography, especially at golden hour which is the real test. I use a DJI Osmo Pocket 3 which has zero flare or ghosting problems, but I wish I could just use an iPhone Pro.
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You might be OK. I do a lot of urban street photography in San Francisco.

And also hitting up strangers on the streets for some conversation and a few portraits for photo projects I've done. And being mindful of the Sun, always wanting it at my back to illuminate what I'm shooting. I've yet to have any flaring issues with my 16PM. Unlike my iPhone 14 which flared easily (due to the phone's silvered lens rings) if you weren't careful.
 
DotCom2 said:
Every year it's about the CAMERA! SHEESH! Say something different!
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Honestly that's kinda the only unique thing the iPhone has to make it "essential" in today's world. In just Apple's ecosystem you can make calls, respond to messages, social media, damn near everything on all of their devices. If the future really is AR glasses to do all of those things, then the camera on the iPhone is kinda the main thing that it offers outside of it being a computer in your pocket.
 
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