Titanium Apple Watch 'Pro' Could Signal the End of Apple Watch Edition

[deeddawg]

I have Epix 2 and AW6 SS side by side, what is exactly disabled on my Epix other than always on screen?

How’s Siri on the Epix? I use that feature extensively to set timers when cooking, to add stuff to grocery or to-do lists, and various other reminder /note type stuff.

How does the Epix do handling texts and phone calls when you're out for a run or walking the dog and your phone is back home?

Can I control my HomeKit devices from the Epix? How about unlocking or remote starting my truck? Or how about my home alarm system?

Does the Epix control my AppleTV4K, serving as a remote for when I’ve stepped into the kitchen?

Can I view/control smoker controllers such as FlameBoss or Fireboard from the Epix?

These are all things I regularly do with Apple Watch, so I’m curious how far Garmin has advanced since my Fenix and Forerunner days

 

[deeddawg]

I can’t imagine the edition was ever worth the money. Titanium and aluminum not looking all that dif to
The eye. These watches are completely disposable. Much better to just upgrade every few years than drop that kinda money

Depends on whether you valued the other differences than case material.

Compared to the cellular aluminum models the titanium models also had twice the warranty, extra sport band, much more durable display, and if you chose the dark titanium a much more durable case.

Those may not be of value to you, especially if you don’t use cellular, but to ignore the potential value to others would be disingenuous.

 

[Dammit Cubs]

I'm still rocking my ceramic Apple Watch series 5. I would live a refresh, I love the ceramic color way.

 

[Sayewhat]

Apple is going to price themselves out of the watch business. It’s getting to be the same price as the phone with little value in two years. A mid end luxury watch holds its value at least.

 

[GLS]

I have a Series 5 ceramic that I bought on a lark off of eBay. I wear it more than I do my Series 6 Stainless; not because I dislike the stainless watch, but rather, it's unique. I don't see any other ceramic Apple watches in the wild. I wore it to Vegas last week, and had people ask me if it was either a new watch, a painted one, or some kind of protective case.

Right now, the battery is at 82%. Once it hits the magic 80% threshold, I'll reach out to Apple to see about battery service for it. If they won't or can't, there's not much I can do.

I wish Apple would bring back the ceramic model, if only for the uniqueness and relative affordability (compared to the gold) of it. I felt the gold models were stupid when they were introduced, but Jony had to have a signature timepiece.

 

[AndiG]

You don't have to keep it for just a year. I have the Titanium Series 5, this year I'll upgrade it. Wait a few years, and then upgrade that.

Otherwise, "obsolete"? For something to be obsolete it's no longer useable with current technology. Even the first Apple Watch isn't obsolete yet.

A friend of mine just dropped his series 5 (I also own ne of those) - replacing the display at Apple was that expensive that he now owns a Garmin watch.

 

[TightLines]

Why people even entertain the crazy prices Apple charges is beyond my comprehension.

Get the same thing for less than $50…

> https://shop.mashable.com/sales/chr...h-c-max-call-time-smart-watch-black&scsonar=1 <

The article that i picked up on that showed me where to get this starts off by saying:
You’ve got more options than an Apple Watch if you’re shopping for quality smartwatches. Whether you’re looking for a compact wearable that can keep you connected or a feature-rich health monitor, the Chronowatch C-Max Call Time Smartwatch could be an affordable choice. See how you like this Apple Watch alternative that’s on sale for a limited time at only $49.99 (Reg. $159).


The Chronowatch C-Max has a 1.7-inch screen from which you can access 14 key features. These include standard smartwatch functions along with health monitoring systems. You can answer or make calls, send messages, check the weather, control your music, and it can even act as a remote camera shutter. It also tells time.

What is the significant difference between this and an Apple Watch? The price is the only thing I can identify…

 

[coolfactor]

Edition was a poor name to begin with.

 

[coolfactor]

Why people even entertain the crazy prices Apple charges is beyond my comprehension.

Get the same thing for less than $50…

> https://shop.mashable.com/sales/chr...h-c-max-call-time-smart-watch-black&scsonar=1 <

The article that i picked up on that showed me where to get this starts off by saying:
You’ve got more options than an Apple Watch if you’re shopping for quality smartwatches. Whether you’re looking for a compact wearable that can keep you connected or a feature-rich health monitor, the Chronowatch C-Max Call Time Smartwatch could be an affordable choice. See how you like this Apple Watch alternative that’s on sale for a limited time at only $49.99 (Reg. $159).


The Chronowatch C-Max has a 1.7-inch screen from which you can access 14 key features. These include standard smartwatch functions along with health monitoring systems. You can answer or make calls, send messages, check the weather, control your music, and it can even act as a remote camera shutter. It also tells time.

What is the significant difference between this and an Apple Watch? The price is the only thing I can identify…

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Features are one thing, integration is another. I love how I'm watching Netflix on any of my Apple devices and I can instantly pause and resume from my wrist intelligently. I don't have to go searching, the watch just surfaces that function becuase it's the most relevant to my situation. Same with GPS navigation. Begin navitation on my phone and my watch begins tapping me at every upcoming turn. Seamless and intelligent. My Apple Watch is truly connected to my life, not some just wrist accessory.

 

[frownface]

This reminds me.

Those people who bought the $10,000 1st Generation 18k Watch editions. Are they laughing now, or are people laughing at them?

 

[TheFluffyDuck]

I find the idea of buying a pesudo-luxury Apple watch hilarious. They are trying to market it as the equivalent of a Longine, Jaeger-LeCoultre, or a Rolex. But unlike one of those watches that will last a lifetime and you can give to your grandkids. An Apple watch lasts maybe three years before it cant get updates anymore.

 

[Howard2k]

I find the idea of buying a pesudo-luxury Apple watch hilarious. They are trying to market it as the equivalent of a Longine, Jaeger-LeCoultre, or a Rolex. But unlike one of those watches that will last a lifetime and you can give to your grandkids. An Apple watch lasts maybe three years before it cant get updates anymore.

Please show me Apple marketing material that shows the Apple Watch to be the equivalent of a Rolex.

 

[xserret]

If you get the natural titanium it will show the scuff however they can easily be buffed out without damaging the watch. I decided to go back to the space black titanium and it does not show any type of scratches or scuffing. Honestly, Titanium feels amazing due to its durability and being so lightweight. It does have the premium look compared to aluminum.

What can I say,
I mountain bikes in Expensive Plastic (Marketing as Carbon Fibber), Aluminum of different series, Steel and TI... by FAR and beyond, the most durable bike is TI. Humongous crashes on that TI bike... and any scratch is always very superficial and a bit of buffing returns it to the original finish.

I have had only a sports Apple Watch (original, 3, 5) because I'm afraid I cannot justify the investment for the internal electronics beeing only "durable" for 3 years or so before they become severely outdated.

 

[dsut4392]

Who needs an apple watch made of a more rugged _case_ material, when the design hasn't changed to protect the screen? I love my Apple watch and wear it nearly every day, but the screen has more scratches than my old Suunto Ambit which I even used to wear while rock climbing.
As for appealing to the serious fitness market, Apple are going to have to work hard on battery life to come even close to matching Garmin, not to mention adding a whole lot more data in different exercise modes.

 

[R1PPER]

If you want a 7 day battery, you will not get nearly the same features. So, powerful watch - short battery. Weak watch - long battery.

this is not true at all. Android watch have AMOLED screens and can do everything the apple watch can with 7 day battery and No UI lag. Huewie has 7 days on its small form factor watch and does this by using a low power chip. Not rocket science.

 

[Mahieu]

You know, why they‘ll call it „pro“?

It is because it will allow it to have more features than the regular Watch. This is why.

Not that much actually 👌

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

They (Apple) need to take this a lot more seriously to get me to bite on this 'high end' watch. They are obviously taking the 'sport watch' market seriously, but the features of the Apple Watch need to step up, a lot.

They need to add ANT+ as a protocol, they need to make pairing sensors a more serious thing. I could use my Apple Watch as a bike computer if I was willing to forgo most of the sensors and data that I feel I need to collect. Pairing with a power meter would be mandatory. Pairing with heart rate straps and electronic shifting, lights, pedals, etc would be mandatory as well.

If they want to make the Apple Watch 'Pro' a serious contender for the Smart Watch crown, they need to address the connectivity, IMO. Open it up, add more flexibility, add more screens and a better method for managing the plethora of those sensors. Foot pod support would be fantastic too. Better multi-protocol GPS/location would be welcomed too.

But there will be tons of people lining up to buy it, but the reaction will be blistering if it fails to stand up to even the worst of the existing devices. There are a lot of people out in the sport milieu that do not hesitate to savage poorly conceived products, and legions of people follow them to avoid useless technology. (Whoop might be the biggest outlier though)

This could be interesting...

 

[AFDoc]

Bought an aluminum series 7 to replace my many years-old aluminum series 2 and was very disappointed at its quality. It showed more marks on the case after 3.5 weeks than my old series 2 did after all those years. Returned it and got the Ti and am happy with its resilience. No visible marks/scratches after 6 or so months of wear.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

If you want a 7 day battery, you will not get nearly the same features. So, powerful watch - short battery. Weak watch - long battery.

There are already 'powerful watches' on the market that have batteries that last longer than a day. If they are going to make this new 'Pro' watch, they need to step up the battery life and a list of other things. If Apple fails they will hear about it. But there is a fawning part of the 'sports industry' that will applaud the worst products for money and access to perks and swag, sadly. They might be able to carry Apple's water on a failed product, but the undertow of an under thought out and flawed product will take a toll on sales.

But could Apple include a well made bike jersey, or running attire with a watch purchase and win sales? Sure...

 

[votdfak]

How’s Siri on the Epix? I use that feature extensively to set timers when cooking, to add stuff to grocery or to-do lists, and various other reminder /note type stuff.

How does the Epix do handling texts and phone calls when you're out for a run or walking the dog and your phone is back home?

Can I control my HomeKit devices from the Epix? How about unlocking or remote starting my truck? Or how about my home alarm system?

Does the Epix control my AppleTV4K, serving as a remote for when I’ve stepped into the kitchen?

Can I view/control smoker controllers such as FlameBoss or Fireboard from the Epix?

These are all things I regularly do with Apple Watch, so I’m curious how far Garmin has advanced since my Fenix and Forerunner days

Well, when at home you have your homepod mini for Siri stuff. So, that's that.

You leave your house without your phone? I said before AW LTE is super limited to dozen countries and many people are not using LTE AW.

How's battery life on your AW?

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

Bought an aluminum series 7 to replace my many years-old aluminum series 2 and was very disappointed at its quality. It showed more marks on the case after 3.5 weeks than my old series 2 did after all those years. Returned it and got the Ti and am happy with its resilience. No visible marks/scratches after 6 or so months of wear.

I steered clear of the aluminum model because earlier it had a weaker face too. I was equally surprised and horrified at the dings in the last watch I traded in at the Apple store. One small one was nearly on the seam between the case and crystal. YIKES! I got the Ti version hoping to avoid it becoming a victim of fate. I may be a fatalist, but I took those dings as a warning. I love the Apple Watch Edition. It looks quite a bit like the standard watch, but will hopefully survive the next few years to be traded in on another one. Ride on!!

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

How's battery life on your AW?

If I use any of the 'sports features', it smokes the battery. If I don't keep an eye on it, it'll die. It's like pressure for a scuba diver. Gotta watch that...

 

[AFDoc]

Here comes the problem: If I would buy e.g. a Panerai Luminor Marina, I have something that has a real value. Maybe it is worth more money the next year and it won‘t be outdated, for sure.

If I buy an Apple Watch, it's bound to be worth less, weedy and obsolete next year. So it is a waste of money to buy a titanium case.

"Obsolete next year"? LoL.... you're funny. You know that's a false statement yet let it roll off your keyboard without a thought (it appears). I had my series 2 until about 6 months ago and, other than battery life slipping, it performed exactly as it did when purchased. So the watch that was supposed to be obsolete a year after I bought it lasted me about 5 years. Folks like you want to compare a smartwatch to a standard watch but you can't.... Your standard watch, at any price, will never perform like a smartwatch.... a smartwatch isn't made to be an investment, it's made to integrate into your tech umbrella and possibly improve one's life. It's a tech device that, unfortunately, has a finite life span. So could we please stop silly comparisons? (not just you.... all that make this silly comparison)

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

"Obsolete next year"? LoL.... you're funny. You know that's a false statement yet let it roll off your keyboard without a thought (it appears). I had my series 2 until about 6 months ago and, other than battery life slipping, it performed exactly as it did when purchased. So the watch that was supposed to be obsolete a year after I bought it lasted me about 5 years. Folks like you want to compare a smartwatch to a standard watch but you can't.... Your standard watch, at any price, will never perform like a smartwatch.... a smartwatch isn't made to be an investment, it's made to integrate into your tech umbrella and possibly improve one's life. It's a tech device that, unfortunately, has a finite life span. So could we please stop silly comparisons? (not just you.... all that make this silly comparison)

There are people that have multiple Apple Watches. There are people that will get the new hotness every year. I had a series 4 until I got the Watch Edition. I think, with the watch, the changes from one ear to the next isn't as large as it is perhaps with the iPhone. Making a bigger Watch is just the next logical thing to try to surge sales. In no way was my '4' obsolete, or outdated. I predict Apple will still do the Watch Edition, even with a 'Pro' label on another product version. It helps sales. I would think there would be some degree of 'spillover' from the Pro sales to a Ti case Edition by people that don't feel they need the 'Pro', but like the idea of a 'ruggedized' 'special' Watch. But Obsolete? Apple Watch? Those words don't fit well together...

 

[MacinMontana]

My guess is making a watch case out of the material is still more difficult and/or expensive than machining it from a billet of Aluminum, Steel or Titanium.

Liquid metal is a simple pour into a mold. It is like pouring plastic. Perfect edges, any color, light weight, strong and scratch resistant.