Bingo. Well said. I think it's the carrier. It's a cell phone issue we are talking about, not Apple, Inc. with cracking Cubes or fugly colors on some old Macs.
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Bingo. Well said. I think it's the carrier. It's a cell phone issue we are talking about, not Apple, Inc. with cracking Cubes or fugly colors on some old Macs.
My iPhone was unaffected when conducting your experiment. My apologies.
same here i have no problems. People having issues must be in a low signal area.
Looks to me like the OP is doing a great job disproving himself via crowdsource!
Here are my results:
While holding the phone in the lower left corner: 874kbps down and 1163kbps up
With the phone laying on my desk (inches away from the previous test): 998kbps down and 1144kbps up
Pretty negligible difference IMO.
Here are my results:
While holding the phone in the lower left corner: 874kbps down and 1163kbps up
With the phone laying on my desk (inches away from the previous test): 998kbps down and 1144kbps up
Pretty negligible difference IMO.
This thread is funny.
BTW OP I can proove your theory 100% wrong but I won't. Others have already.
BTW OP I can proove your theory 100% wrong but I won't. Others have already.
One big problem. All videos have 5 bars. That fifth bar represents almost 50% of the usable signal. More bars in more places, right?
It's been demonstrated that you can experience the signal drop and not go to four bars. If you're at four bars, however, you're may be be SOL.
Any video with 5 bars should be excluded as proof of anything due to the poor accuracy of what the bars represent.
I get 5 bars with a bumper... no signal without one. I don't think you can doubt the problem
No one is doubting that the issue exists for some people or in some situations. But it is clearly not affecting everyone.
Now whether the problem is due to A.) manufacturing differences OR B.) the fact that not everyone is using their phone in the exact some location connected to the same tower at the same signal strength and same frequency has not yet been determined.
My guess is B however.
My phone at work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US0bd6ZNUP0
My Phone at home: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAt8H110kSk
2 Totally diff scenarios - Same Phone - how can it be the phone's fault?
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I don't get it...why not just skip this thread...instead some people "whine" about the OP who they say is "whining" about his phone problem.....I skip many a post..esp if its a rehash....try it...it works.
Whatever it is some phone geeks do. I just use my Razr with AT&T and live with it. Land lines are still my choice for important calls.
How is it exactly that one gets the iPhone from AT&T to Verizon? Doesn't it cost a lot? Lots of kids do this and other stuff I would not be willing to do for my cell or computer.
Man what is up with all these "MY IPHONE DOESN'T WORK, BUT YOU SAY YOURS DOES? PROVE IT! PROVE IT NAO(now) !" threads.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/952387/
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https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/952387/
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Like I said when I did the test and I held the phone at the bottom I dropped to 1 bar and still had the same strong 3G download and upload speeds. I haven't dropped a call yet either from this or found the reception to be bad.
What I do have a problem with is the sensor. When on a call I see the phone light up and go off frequently when held up to my ear, at some point I know I'm going to accidentally hit the hang up button with my cheek or something. There's a problem I'd like to see fixed.
It's people hoping in vain for a total recall because they can't sit there with problems while believing others aren't actually having them.
To my understanding you would have to make the iPhone OS accept any SIM (at the very least). Isn't that illegal? That's the only way it would seem to work, using a warranty voiding hack.
Just cruising around on the internet seems to suggest that messing with the hardware inside (somehow making CDMA work also, such as in some Blackberrys) is a way to do it. No thanks, not for me. I will leave that for the EEs here or super hardware geeks.
It was hard enough working the insides of a laptop. I maxed out my iBook's RAM a long time ago but I heard about a third party RAM maker I never heard of who made a larger capacity RAM module which worked on the old rev. a clamshells. Some iBook users went for the suspicious RAM with varying results. It wasn't until a reputable RAM maker made a proper, capable module that most were OK with going over Apple's recommended limit of RAM for the 160 MB RAM maxed out rev. A iBook. I was happy with 160 megs of RAM in 2000, so I didn't feel a need to stick some unknown 256 MB stick in it and possibly damage something in the iBook I just paid $1599 for.
I say if your area works with AT&T, get the iPhone and be happy it works. Let's assume it's possible to "easily" make an iPhone work with another carrier, would it really make the iPhone have that much better reception? And if the reception is better, don't you still have to pay for the existing AT&T contract or spend a lot of money opting out?
It just sounds like a geek thing for the sake of it.
It's like on the site www.woz.org where somebody took out the guts of an old CRT iMac and put it into a large 24" inch Sony CRT and made basically a hybrid iMac with Sony CRT. While it's possible, it doesn't offer up any real advantage and it can be dangerous. It's one thing to be taking apart LCDs, but completely another thing to be digging around inside a CRT where there is a chance one can get severely shocked.
As a techie for a decade, I learned that not everything possible is legal, safe, or practical.
The Wall Street Journal now thinks its likely Apple will officially have Verizon. Personally, I don't care since I just need a basic cell phone. If I wanted games and a better internet experience on the road, yet not have a laptop, that's what the iPad is for.
But since this isn't a thread about jailbreaking, Verizon, iBooks, or iPads, let the debate on iPhone 4 continue, right? Hey at least we care unlike other customers and we are a small part of why Apple works. They tend to listen to us (the buying public) and make any necessary fixes or changes.
+1000
While my personal belief is the affected population is really very small, it's certainly not zero and something should be done. Still I wish folks would get some perspective and give Apple and AT&T some time to sort this out.
Again, it seems all starts with the beginning signal. Any test can't be done when you have five bars because that could be above the threshold.
Sure, it can happen to some. I can get a few bars to go down too if I do the "death grip".
However it's not an issue for me because I never naturally hold it in the death grip position.
However it's not an issue for me because I never naturally hold it in the death grip position.
i already said the problem exists for some users, learn to read.
and the fix is not a case, i'm sure there will be plenty of software updates from now till the next iphone that will include tweaks to the software and how it processes the signal in an effort stop the dropped calls. and it would be premature to say those won't fix anything since no one has even tried yet. and to flat out say they won't is just being closed minded.
sorry yours doesn't work right, return it and save yourself the stress. no one is forcing you to have an iphone, if you have it then learn to live with the issues. either way stop whining about it or trying to making those with good working phones feel bad about it.
why you even feel anyone is obligated to prove anything to you for it to be true is beyond me
First of all we are all on the same side, that's why we joined Macrumors.
I would be mad, too, if I got the iPhone and it didn't work when I put my hand on the case near the bottom. I don't think OP is a troll or the people arguing with the OP.
Apple will get this resolved, even if it's a small number of iPhone 4s that are having issues. Now imagine if we were talking about some other company.
Until some time passes, it's too early to speculate as to what percentage of phones have issues, what part if Apple and what part is AT&T, if the lawsuit has merit, etc. but we will, as we have the right to, discuss all the possibilities.It's this type of hype of iPhone 4 issues all over the internet, and now the courts, that will make Apple do something about it.