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To all of you who don't Jailbreak, mind if I ask why?

Quite honestly stock iOS does everything I need it to do reasonably well. I like running the latest Apple software (after waiting a bit to see if it's reasonably stable). It's also a money and time thing. On the off chance that something does go wrong, I don't have the money or time to deal with it.

I think I like stock iOS because I came in during iOS 6 when things were pretty stable and had lots of features that earlier versions didn't have. I came from a BlackBerry that I might've hacked if I could've. The Storm2 was a horrible phone, and the BB OS was limited for a 2010 OS, and upgrades weren't available for my phone at the time. Moving to iOS 6 with my iPhone 5 was a vast improvement even with the Apple Maps debacle.

I also have a lot of android fanboy friends that like to poke fun at me for being an Apple fanboy, and I return the gesture. Some of them are running stock Samsung android, so I don't know why they poke fun at me. At that point it's a preference thing.
 
I used to jailbreak but I've gotten to a point where I'm pretty happy with iOS the way it is. That's not to say that in the future I wouldn't be tempted again :D
 
My mobile banking apps won't work as jailbroken, so I've stopped jail breaking.
 
Although I don't use any of the tweaks mentioned in the OP, I have to agree that jailbreaking makes iOS much easier to use. I'd always jailbreak my iPhone, given the possibility.

I understand though that people have their reasons not to jb, but I wonder why stability keeps being brought up. Fact is, jailbreaking doesn't make your phone any less stable than stock. The only real downside is that upgrading iOS is more work if you want to re-jailbreak.
 
Too much effort, having to wait for the newest jailbreak software or stay on an old version of iOS - sure there's some things I'd like but it's not worth my time.

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chambone said:
Although I don't use any of the tweaks mentioned in the OP, I have to agree that jailbreaking makes iOS much easier to use. I'd always jailbreak my iPhone, given the possibility.

I understand though that people have their reasons not to jb, but I wonder why stability keeps being brought up. Fact is, jailbreaking doesn't make your phone any less stable than stock. The only real downside is that upgrading iOS is more work if you want to re-jailbreak.
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Jailbreaking used to be pretty unstable, it's a lot better now as most apps etc run a lot better than they used to - I remember jailbreaking iOS 3 and 4 and it being very slow.
 
Jazper said:
Jailbreaking used to be pretty unstable, it's a lot better now as most apps etc run a lot better than they used to - I remember jailbreaking iOS 3 and 4 and it being very slow.
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The amusing thing is, back then I had a 3GS that, after upgrading to iOS4, started rebooting when ten minutes into a call. It was a common problem that could be solved by jailbreaking and replacing a system file called mobilewatchdog with the same file pulled from iOS3. So, seen in that light it made my phone more stable, not less.

Also, jailbreaking doesn't make your phone any slower. Not then, not now. You must have had some resource heavy tweaks installed at the time.
 
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chambone said:
Also, jailbreaking doesn't make your phone any slower. Not then, not now. You must have had some resource heavy tweaks installed at the time.
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Well, that's the thing. Jailbreaking by itself doesn't make the system slower or more unstable, but it lets you install stuff that does. On the other hand, if you are not going to install stuff, what's the point of jailbreaking? I think that's what people mean when they say jailbreaking makes the system more unstable. Everything in the official App Store has been checked by Apple to make sure they don't destabilize the system. When installing jailbreak tweaks, it's up to you to figure out which repositories and devs are trustworthy. If some tweak does end up slowing down or crashing your system, you have to troubleshoot to find the culprit. Yes, I've managed to have jailbroken devices running as smoothly as non-jailbroken ones. But to get them to that state and to keep them there took a lot of effort.
 
My first attempt to jailbreak an iPhone ended badly. I jail broke my old 3GS, and bricked it. It rebooted constantly and was unusable. I was told, at the time, that there was no way to get it back to a working state.

I can't risk my iPhone just because people are pissed that 'STEVE JOBS TELLS ME WHAT I CAN PUT ON MY IPHONE!' *pout*

The one reason I value my iPhone(s) is because they work. I don't have to futz with them, and cagoule them and there isn't anything that I can't get that I'd want to take the risk for.

If I was young, rich, and foolish, I'd probably do it, but I'm not rich enough to replace an iPhone that bricks.

If I wanted porno apps, I'd buy an Android phone and put up with that whole line of BS and walk around feeling smug, but I'm not that crazy...
 
I have been jailbreaking since the original iPhone. But, with every generation, the number of tweaks I installed has steadily decreased. I did jailbreak iOS 7 but only installed a quick reply tweak, custom control center toggles, and a theme (I still think the iOS 7 icons are just downright hideous). Now that Apple has implemented actionable notifications in iOS 8, I don't know if being able to toggle LTE and personal hotspot from control center is enough to justify the hassle of jailbreaking this time around. Also, like others in this thread have said, I don't really have the time to manage a jailbroken phone anymore. I was in college when the original iPhone came out. Almost 8 years later, I have a career and plenty of other interest to keep me busy.

All that being said, if a jailbreak for iOS 8 brings a tweak to enable the 6+ landscape mode features on the iPhone 6, I would seriously consider jailbreaking again. I'm betting the features are embedded into the firmware on both phones, and can be enabled on the 6 by tweaking some plist in the system files. That might be worth the hassle of another jailbreak. Also, having something less ugly on my homescreen wouldn't be half bad either!
 
mightyjabba said:
Why don't they allow Amazon video over LTE, anyway?
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They haven't been clear about this AFAIK.

They were likely concerned about user experience/optimization (how dare they!) for slower speed streaming, but I can attest that even throttled (so .5Mbps) I was able to use Prime nicely on a JB device.

The only other thing that makes remote sense is maybe they are concerned about the load that adding millions of devices over LTE would add to their service. I admit it would be more, but they seem to handle things like FireTV and dramatic increases in WiFi usage just fine.

Regardless of their reason, I will always jailbreak. Being able to stream Prime video over 3G/4G/LTE is worth too much for me not to.

The other tweaks (and emulators) are nice too.

I miss BytaFont2, Springtomize, and tweaks like Asphelia...
 
jamdex said:
Stability.
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This 10000000 times over. Got sick of how poorly the phone was running and how unstable it was. Not worth the headache. Heck even on my android devices I only used root to remove Carrier bloat. Gave up on roms due to all the bugs.
 
Another good reason to only upgrade phones once a jailbreak is out?

By the time the jailbreak is out, retail iPhone stock levels have stabilized and you can get it right away instead of having to deal with the "3 - 4 week" waiting nonsense :D
 
Hal~9000 said:
Another good reason to only upgrade phones once a jailbreak is out?

By the time the jailbreak is out, retail iPhone stock levels have stabilized and you can get it right away instead of having to deal with the "3 - 4 week" waiting nonsense :D
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Well, you also aren't an iOS Beta tester at that point either. :D

I'm sure Apple loves all the feedback it got from the iPhone 6/6+ beta users about iOS 8.0.1. :D
 
I used to jailbreak my iPhones all the time. Now I don't have to as most of the features that I JB for are now available within the stock iOS.
 
Eileen89 said:
I used to jailbreak my iPhones all the time. Now I don't have to as most of the features that I JB for are now available within the stock iOS.
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This. Apple has done a good job of enhancing iOS over the years.

The newest features in iOS 8 outweigh the instability gained from a jailbreak. And if you say there is no instability, you're in denial.
 
I stopped caring about tinkering and started using my phone mostly for work.

Plus, jailbreaking inevitably made my phone act like an Android. I stopped breaking it after iOS 4.
 
boshii said:
This. Apple has done a good job of enhancing iOS over the years.

The newest features in iOS 8 outweigh the instability gained from a jailbreak. And if you say there is no instability, you're in denial.
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There's only instability if you run stuff like Winterboard and theme, I do none of that stuff. I use low memory tweaks and my phone runs exactly the same, better bc of the enhancement.
 
TH55 said:
There's only instability if you run stuff like Winterboard and theme, I do none of that stuff. I use low memory tweaks and my phone runs exactly the same, better bc of the enhancement.
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Okay. Good for you. People have given you reasons as to why they don't. Why do you feel the need to still try and convince them that their way is wrong and yours is right?
 
mercuryjones said:
Okay. Good for you. People have given you reasons as to why they don't. Why do you feel the need to still try and convince them that their way is wrong and yours is right?
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What are you talking about?
 
I did on my 5 for quite awhile and I regretted it. Slowed my phone down a bit and absolutely wrecked havoc on my battery life. Literally my phone would be lucky to last more than 3 hours! At a concert, my phone kept restarting itself and I knew it was the jailbreak as it would just occasionally do that. I couldn't get any video or meet up with friends.

Really the benefits were really outweighed by the cons. I'm pretty satisfied with iOS 8 and I don't think I'll ever feel the need to do that all again. Was cool though!
 
TH55 said:
What are you talking about?
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What he's saying is that several people have said they do not jailbreak because they believe it makes their devices unstable.

Whether you believe that to be true or not, it's what THEY believe and it's a valid reason to them.

Trying to convince them otherwise (even if you may be right) is essentially invalidating their opinion.

People don't like being told that they are wrong, even if they are. It's not something anyone deals well with. It's especially difficult to swallow when it's either a matter of opinion or belief.

Now I'm not saying they are right or that you are right, I am simply explaining. But, my iPhone is jailbroken, so that should tell you where I stand on the matter.
 
I agree with the OP and eyoungren's and irishvixen's posts have resonated with me. A quick look at my topics shows that I have been jailbreaking iphones since the original. I have never had any issues and the minor getting started issues were quickly placed behind me due to the great help I achieved from members here. I totally understand why someone would not need to jailbreak. My parents and my sister all have Apple devices none are jailbroken and frankly they work great. On the other hand I love being able to customise and making a device my own so to speak makes me happy.

I have a jailbroken 5s and absolutely could not use a stock iphone. Frankly if the iPhone could not be jailbroken I would not buy it. I believe a jailbroken iphone is miles ahead of a rooted android. I do acknowledge the security concerns and I actually do nothing personal so to speak on my iPhone.

Many people I know agree that jailbreaking is cool but many do not really seem excited about it. I cannot call them stupid nor force my opinion on them as ios is great either way. I can also relate to the grew out of comments. I have grown out of the much more risky and complicated android rooting scene. I won't even touch custom roms. Jailbreaking ios is a much simpler and more fulfilling experience.
 
TH55 said:
There's only instability if you run stuff like Winterboard and theme, I do none of that stuff. I use low memory tweaks and my phone runs exactly the same, better bc of the enhancement.
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But that's the thing -- you have to figure out which tweaks are low memory and unlikely to affect your system performance, and which teeaks are more risky. You guess wrong, and all of a sudden your system is crashing and you are in for hours of troubleshooting, deleting tweaks and rebooting, and worse case, restoring your phone and reinstalling everything.
 
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