You just can't stop with the strawmans. Nobody in any of these bend threads ever even references unbox therapy, it's all personal experience. I don't know much about his unscientific test and comparison to M8, but in general, all of the complaints on this forum are coming from individual users.
To the bending naysayers...
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jpeg42
macrumors 6502a
Yes, no proof (and I don't even know why I am saying it again) it can't be proven to you, so what's the point to keep asking for it? Where is your proof that it cannot happen (in a pocket, don't cite CR)?
Until Cook comes out and admits fault, nobody can change your mind, so why be in the discussion? I am open to the idea that the phones can or cannot bend with normal use, and the fact we see a new thread every other day on here or reddit shows it happens. The only way your claim holds up is if every single person is at fault for their bend, and that I just don't buy into.
So we agree to disagree. Whatever man.
T5BRICK
macrumors G3
lordofthereef
macrumors G5
Same was true with the moisture sensor on the 3G/S for a very long time.
Sad thing is it can go either way. I suppose it's possible all these people abused their phones and came straight to forums for some consoling and decided to make up stories about the phone never being dropped or mishandled (that may sound or come off sarcastic but it's not meant to).
Apple can either decide to honor exchanges, or not. This will likely not reach lawsuit status (as did the moisture sensor issue) unless a LOT more people start experiencing it. The bummer about THAT is, that IF some folks are having legitimate issues, they are simply SOL.
Due to the fact that there are various "norms" for carrying your phone, I think this is a fairly difficult scenario to test and prove. Does it take multiple stresses? Does it take just one? Who knows?
I do remember seeing statistics (that I didn't go out and vet myself, so they may be bullocks) that the phone bends under about 70 pounds of pressure almost everywhere except the volume buttons at which point that drops to about 23 pounds. Is 23 pounds, if true, acceptable? I am sure there are folks that would debate both ends of that too.
mercuryjones
macrumors 6502a
Do you even read what others have posted in the same thread, or just reply to me?
Well said hope it shut up the drama queen
Shailesh.Sharma
macrumors newbie
Yep 300 ****** who bent their iphone and rather than blaming themselves they are crying in public,hope they grew up
The troll is back en force to Bring back the bendgate
jpeg42
macrumors 6502a
My phone is bent. Waaaaaaaaaa!I think i'll make yet another new thread about it rather than exchange it at the Apple Store.
And who is the troll here? What does this do for the discussion? Do you not agree visibility to a potential issue is a good thing? Did you need to enter or comment on the thread if you don't want to discuss the issue?
Edit, actually just read the OP. This thread is terrible and the OP is trolling. LOL.
That thread is awesome! They're saying the same things to this guy that you often hear here.
That's not from normal use . are you sure the table is 100% straight
This is too funny.
A few patterns seem to remain stable with nearly every person who either complained about a bent iPhone 6 or supports the people who are complaining about them. Many of these people have registration dates of Sept 2014, October 2014 and soon to be Nov 2014 no doubt.
Another pattern that seems to remain stable with nearly every person above is the lack of posting a picture to support their original post. I mean, what's the point of coming on the internet (which makes a person faceless to the world) and complaining about their iPhone 6 being bent and not immediately showing a picture? I just love the answers of "It's my only camera so I can't take a picture of it". That one comes up quite often. I call BS on that. Most everybody (especially ones that buy such an expensive phone) have another camera in the house. A camera is not an uncommon gadget in most people's homes.
Another pattern of the above mentioned is the refusal to take ANY responsibilty as to how the phone got bent. Amazes me how nearly every one of them have said, "I did nothing to make this phone bend". Really? I can accept someone saying they don't know how it happened but to say you did nothing to cause it to bend? Come on!
Another pattern for the above mentioned is when they say they took the phone to the Apple store and got turned down for a replacement because Apple said it was physical damage. Of course it's physical damage because the owner bent it. A defect is when the product inflicts damage upon itself due to defective manufacturing. A bent phone is bent by the user.
I have no doubt in my mind that Samsung created this fiasco to nullify the sales of the iPhone 6 due to their Note 4 which so far hasn't had a swarm of customers waiting in line to get one.
Another pattern that seems to remain stable with nearly every person above is the lack of posting a picture to support their original post. I mean, what's the point of coming on the internet (which makes a person faceless to the world) and complaining about their iPhone 6 being bent and not immediately showing a picture? I just love the answers of "It's my only camera so I can't take a picture of it". That one comes up quite often. I call BS on that. Most everybody (especially ones that buy such an expensive phone) have another camera in the house. A camera is not an uncommon gadget in most people's homes.
Another pattern of the above mentioned is the refusal to take ANY responsibilty as to how the phone got bent. Amazes me how nearly every one of them have said, "I did nothing to make this phone bend". Really? I can accept someone saying they don't know how it happened but to say you did nothing to cause it to bend? Come on!
Another pattern for the above mentioned is when they say they took the phone to the Apple store and got turned down for a replacement because Apple said it was physical damage. Of course it's physical damage because the owner bent it. A defect is when the product inflicts damage upon itself due to defective manufacturing. A bent phone is bent by the user.
I have no doubt in my mind that Samsung created this fiasco to nullify the sales of the iPhone 6 due to their Note 4 which so far hasn't had a swarm of customers waiting in line to get one.
mercuryjones
macrumors 6502a
But but but....I thought only Apple fanboys were apologetic?
So, now what do you say, troll?
I'm not a troll. I just want the haters to get what they deserve.
People are quick to call people liars about their bent iPhones and quick to say that they bent it from abuse or misuse. Just wait until their iPhone bends from "normal usage" karma.
However, those people will not post here because they wouldn't want to let everyone know that they were wrong. They'll just quietly deal with it and probably continue to bash people who have legitimate complaints.
That's not what I said at all. It was through posts in forums like this that people outside of Apple recognized there was a systematic issue with the way Apple was handling warranty service. Do you think class actions happen before a potential class is even identified?
you wish bad thing to people,its immature,you were the one who mocked someone with bent iphone and now you got your own phone bent, ive been having my phone for longtime yet its not bent,why its not bent do you think? you think because its not yet, me think cos i take care of it,rather than critizing other why dont interospect your own
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UofL Cards
macrumors newbie
My phone is bent. Waaaaaaaaaa!
I would love to exchange my bent iPhone 6 at the Apple Store, but they said no. Therein lies the problem because Apple will not exchange iPhones that are bent right at the volume buttons until they admit there is a problem so you will keep getting people on these boards complaining.
Really Apple is saying no? I find that hard to believe.
UofL Cards
macrumors newbie
They would not replace my bent phone. They said they have been instructed that any phone that is bent is accidental damage and not eligible for replacement. Of course they tried to sell me AppleCare and said that is the only thing they can do for me.
mercuryjones
macrumors 6502a
If it was accidental damage, it should be covered under Applecare +. If it was bent under normal usage (whatever that may be), then Apple should replace it.
However, it's going to be very hard to verify your claim. I would suggest that if you are telling the truth, you take the phone back and request they replace it. If they don't take care of you, then move it up the chain until you get an acceptable answer.
Now, if it bent under accidental damage (dropped, hit it against something, etc), then you need to own up to it and pay the price.
UofL Cards
macrumors newbie
I know it's hard to believe me but I promise I didn't drop it or anything like that. Treated it like my past iPhones and last week I took it out of the case to clean and noticed it was bent. Genius at the Apple Store wouldn't replace it and a manger there gave me the runaround as well and told me to call customer service which got me nowhere as well. I guess I will have to go back there and be a pain in their butt even though I'm not that kind of person at all. I just want my bent phone replaced.
Id tweet about it to Tim Cook. In addition to the other stuff. I dont honestly feel like Apple adequately addressed this criticism.
mercuryjones
macrumors 6502a
Question: Is it bent so bad as to make the phone unusable, or is it something that you just perceive as being bent? The problem is, even though my phone is not bent, I can't help but thinking it is overtime I look at it, all thanks to the media coverage of this "issue"
UofL Cards
macrumors newbie
Sadly it really is bent. So much so that even the manager at the apple store said, "Woah that is really bent."
Given the increase in size I can see how it will bend if it's in your front pocket and you bend over or sit down, that is the nature of it. If your pockets are deep and the phone is below your pivot point you won't have a bent phone. If your pockets are shallow and your pants are tight, you will end up with a bent phone. If it was made of plastic it would just flex a little vs bending.
This is not a defect, it's just not a strong design.
This is not a defect, it's just not a strong design.