According to "Find More Posts by ", this was your 7th post. How many Macrumor accounts do you have? One for posting and several others for agreeing with the first post? Don't worry. We've all done it.Never been the first post either. Sweet.
According to "Find More Posts by ", this was your 7th post. How many Macrumor accounts do you have? One for posting and several others for agreeing with the first post? Don't worry. We've all done it.Never been the first post either. Sweet.
huh?For all the europeans here please contact the EU Commission. http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/index_en.htm so Apple will learn the etiquette for business and the etiquette for customers in EU Area.
well let's start with the fact that as of today no-one has rented a movie through apple TV.Tyrannosaurs....
explain why: the mony that people spend on iTunes for buy music for their iPod Touch is not the same that the mony that people spend for movie rental in Apple TV.
stated by Steve Jobs that this was a defect, that it had always been intended that you would be able to add and edit but that they'd not had it done in time for release.Explain me why... the "feature" to add events to Calendar on iPod Touch wasn't charged at ALL
don't get me wrong, i understand why you're frustrated.Tell me what you want... but this 20$ are not in any way something "resonable" at least to ME!
I think the 20 dollars is reasonable. I am not complaining. Even though some say those apps should have been their from the start, it is still a good deal and I am happy to pay for it if it helps the software developers build these apps. They are a business, they are supposed to make money. They arn't just gonna give out free stuff to all their customers just because they support them. A lot of the digg community was extremely mad about this it seemed. It's only 20 bucks guys.
It's all about revenue recognition and accounting rules. As others have noted iPhone and ATV have a subscription component to them (either iTunes, AT&T wireless or both)
This means they have to be accounted for in a different and less attractive way than iPods, iMacs etc.
In order to use the better accounting rules for iPods, Apple must charge for upgrades plain and simple and they must make it more than just a "token or nominal $ 2 thing" or they could be called on it.
Paying for significant software upgrades is a part of the future on all non-subscription based products.
The iPod touch does not fall under this model, and therefore under Apple's reasoning, a major feature upgrade must incur a charge.
I think many if not most Touch owners would be ok with that if that were the case, and all owners of the iPod Touch both current and future had to pay the $20 to 'upgrade' the Touch to the iPhone software. This is reasonable because Apple is making a significantly greater amount of money from the iPhone due to the AT&T subscription revenue.
What bothers me, and I presume most who are angry, is the fact that ONLY the people who currently own an Ipod Touch ("early adopters") have to pay to upgrade, whereas new users get it for free. That doesn't seem fair to me; and to the contrary, it appears an especially bad decision to piss off your early adopters when Apple is one of those business that thrives on their core dedicated users who make up a large share of the early adopters of their products. it definitely leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Yeah, you would think that after paying British Airways over $9500 for a first class ticket.. I would get a $50 baggage allowance for free?
Sheesh. I am sick of people complaining all the time.. I don't know if it's just the US but I see a trend of consumers whining day and night. First, they want a $50 airline ticket.. won't pay more. Then they complain if the on board food is not free!
Can anyone tell how updating of Touch is going to work?
Are there two versions let say 1.1.3. free and 1.1.3 Plus (with iPhone apps) at 20$... or there's only one 1.1.3 which you can get only by paying 20$...
This makes me uncomfortable - if any other update is gonna be paid - how about bug fixes? And what is more important how am I supposed to get these extra fitures if in my country there's no iTunes Store but iPod Touch is sold officially. How am I supposed to pay?
I don't get it. Doesn't the iPod touch have itunes built in too. Same movies you rent via iTunes or AppleTV can be transfered to your iPod Touch.
Who would be able to call them out on a 2 fee? It's software Apple created, shouldn't they be able to charge what they want for it?
Like I said earlier, the timing on this has a bad smell to it. Why did they wait till after the holiday season to release this update.
Also how does Sony get away with it with the PSP or Micrsoft with the first gen Zune?
... The second implementation it is on the way with forcing Apple to open one single iTunes Store Europa.
As a EU citizen I have the right to buy things from a German e-store without being questioned about sex, race, hair colour or address, and I cannot be refused in a e-store in France because I am from Romania.
Making impossible for a french person to buy songs from iTunes Store in Sweden is illegal within the Union...
That's my problem right there. It's worth the $20, as I never expected to have this functionality when I bought mine a month ago. They are quality applications for sure. However, if new users get them for "free", I'm the sucker and that makes me angry. Angry users don't recommend products any more.
It doesn't matter if the upgrade fee appears to be consistent with the existing business model. The issue is that most customers have the intuition that the cost of ipod software updates is not a maintenance expense that they will have to cover. Thus the model is reasonably unintuitive--BAD!! The RIAA sues everybody, and that is consistent with its business model, thus the RIAA's suits are justified? huzzuh?!?!?!
because apple are really struggling to get the acceptance rate of the ipod up...Customers have already thrown a lot of money into a cash cow, so they should get feature upgrades like these for free, especially since Apple should want to everything possible to drive up acceptance rate.
I think the 20 dollars is reasonable. I am not complaining. Even though some say those apps should have been their from the start, it is still a good deal and I am happy to pay for it if it helps the software developers build these apps. They are a business, they are supposed to make money. They arn't just gonna give out free stuff to all their customers just because they support them. A lot of the digg community was extremely mad about this it seemed. It's only 20 bucks guys.
Never been the first post either. Sweet.
I think the 20 dollars is reasonable. I am not complaining. Even though some say those apps should have been their from the start, it is still a good deal and I am happy to pay for it if it helps the software developers build these apps. They are a business, they are supposed to make money. They arn't just gonna give out free stuff to all their customers just because they support them. A lot of the digg community was extremely mad about this it seemed. It's only 20 bucks guys.
Never been the first post either. Sweet.
Ahhhhhggggg!! This is the way it works in the electronics game. This has kind of been said before, but I will try again. If I bought a Macbook in June, it came with Tiger and iWork 06. A few months later, that same Macbook, at the same price, came with Leopard and iWork 08. I would have to pay to upgrade my software to Leopard and iWork 08 despite the fact that new purchasers were getting that software for free. How is this any different??? New purchasers will ALWAYS get more for the same amount of money. If you don't like this model, wait until all the software that will ever be released gets released before buying anything Let me know how that works out for you.
Does anyone know if the brand spankin' new touch will be/is fully compatible with 10.4.10?
I do not want to upgrade at this point to Leopard due to some apps that arent compatible with hardware I use currently.
THANKS! GRACIAS! DANKE! ARIGATO!
What bothers me, and I presume most who are angry, is the fact that ONLY the people who currently own an Ipod Touch ("early adopters") have to pay to upgrade, whereas new users get it for free.