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I hear you on that, GGJ.....have done and will continue to do my share of offering help and suggestions here, too, when people are wrestling with a problem and it is something I have an idea about how to resolve... In the very beginning, this site was so, so helpful to me when I was still trying to figure out if I even wanted to delve into the (at that time to me) mysterious universe which was Apple and Mac..... I took the plunge in 2005 and am still happy that I did. So indeed, I like to pay it back or pay it forward as I can. You're right though, that after a while, answering questions and offering thoughtful suggestions in posts can add up to one's overall post count, even though that was not something in mind at the time.

Oooh, Chown33, a SCONE!!!! (Ummm....with raspberry, please?) :) Oh, and yes, Mum's the word......

Oops, I see that it's already too late for that. Ah, well. Can I have the scone anyway??!! :)
 
Oooh, Chown33, a SCONE!!!! (Ummm....with raspberry, please?) :) Oh, and yes, Mum's the word......

Oops, I see that it's already too late for that. Ah, well. Can I have the scone anyway??!! :)
Sorry, I don't do raspberry. The options are plain, lemon, or dried cranberry.

Now I have to figure out how to get it into the slot on the back of my cable modem.

Well, I had to take the cranberry option off the menu. They're just too big to fit thru the slot.
 
Lemon works for me!!!! Um, yes, I daresay it could be a rather tricky proposition trying to get the thing through the slot of the cable modem and ensuring that it slides smoothly and swiftly through the cables until it arrives at my own cable modem, which may or may not balk at this unexpected arrival. Well, I'll watch and wait and see if the thing unexpectedly burps and belches and something suddenly plops out...... LOL! If not, no matter, it's the thought that counts, right?!! :) It was a nice idea, anyway!!

ETA: oh, but wait -- I am not actually in the running for the top prize, anyway. Well, goshdarnitall, I wouldn't be receiving the Grand Prize, no matter what!! That Lemon Scone will have to go elsewhere..... Safe travels!!
 
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Lemon works for me!!!! Um, yes, I daresay it could be a rather tricky proposition trying to get the thing through the slot of the cable modem and ensuring that it slides smoothly and swiftly through the cables until it arrives at my own cable modem, which may or may not balk at this unexpected arrival. Well, I'll watch and wait and see if the thing unexpectedly burps and belches and something suddenly plops out...... LOL!
Be sure to disable your adblockers and spam filters and check your junk mail folder, just in case. Now this may be one of those rare occasions where you need to run some sort of cleaner app afterwards! :D If it still doesn't work, chown33 may have to AirDrop the scone to your phone.
 
Be sure to disable your adblockers and spam filters and check your junk mail folder, just in case. Now this may be one of those rare occasions where you need to run some sort of cleaner app afterwards! :D If it still doesn't work, chown33 may have to AirDrop the scone to your phone.

Mac Cleaner App -- no way! Airdrop.....there's the key!!! (I am ashamed to admit how long it took me to realize the value of this particular Apple program! Once I finally understood what it does and started using it, I've been a fan ever since!) Well, who knows, even though I'm not the top poster in MR, I still might find a surprise lemon scone dropping through the air to me one of these days after all.... LOL!!!

Yep, AFB, will be waiting for that MR t-shirt, mug and pen as one of the participants who posts a lot, even if not the highest-ranking one..... LOL! (Yeah, that wishful thinking is fun, isn't it?!!)
 
Mac Cleaner App -- no way! Airdrop.....there's the key!!! (I am ashamed to admit how long it took me to realize the value of this particular Apple program! Once I finally understood what it does and started using it, I've been a fan ever since!) Well, who knows, even though I'm not the top poster in MR, I still might find a surprise lemon scone dropping through the air to me one of these days after all.... LOL!!!

Yep, AFB, will be waiting for that MR t-shirt, mug and pen as one of the participants who posts a lot, even if not the highest-ranking one..... LOL! (Yeah, that wishful thinking is fun, isn't it?!!)
It’s quality not quantity!
 
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I hear you on that, GGJ.....have done and will continue to do my share of offering help and suggestions here, too, when people are wrestling with a problem and it is something I have an idea about how to resolve... In the very beginning, this site was so, so helpful to me when I was still trying to figure out if I even wanted to delve into the (at that time to me) mysterious universe which was Apple and Mac..... I took the plunge in 2005 and am still happy that I did. So indeed, I like to pay it back or pay it forward as I can. You're right though, that after a while, answering questions and offering thoughtful suggestions in posts can add up to one's overall post count, even though that was not something in mind at the time.

Oooh, Chown33, a SCONE!!!! (Ummm....with raspberry, please?) :) Oh, and yes, Mum's the word......

Oops, I see that it's already too late for that. Ah, well. Can I have the scone anyway??!! :)

Strawberry jam or raspberry jam (preferably with an insanely high fruit content) for me, please, when serving scones.
 
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Histogram of Member Post-Counts

Welcome once again to "Fun with Graphs"!

Today we'll see a different kind of graph, a histogram. It will show how many MacRumors members have the same 6-month post-count.

For practical reasons (illustrated later), we use ranges of post-counts, which are called bins or buckets. The range of post-counts covered by a bin is called its size or width. For example, for a bin width of 100, all members with post-counts in the range 0 to 99 are put in the first bin, then those in the range 100-199 are put in the second bin, and so on. After all the members have been assigned to a bin, the bin counts are graphed. The bins represent the distribution of post-counts across the entire range. Some bins may be empty, meaning no member had a post-count within its range.

Previous graphs have looked at top posters, either by their total post-count, or by their prolificness in the prior 6-month interval. A histogram covers all the members, even those with few or no posts in the past 6 months. Technically, it covers all members with total post-counts of 4000 or more, because those are the only ones I collect data for.

The histogram data is presented first in Table form, then as graphs. The tables make it easier to see the exact counts of how many members are in each bin. The graphs look prettier.

I made two histograms with different bin-widths: 100 and 50. There's a separate bin for members with 0 posts. There's another separate bin for members with very high post-counts, a "top bin".


The Tables

Measurements taken 03 Jan 2019 by chown33.
Code:
Range of
6-Mo Posts   Members
-----------  -------
        <0       4
         0     133
      1-99     121
   100-199      29
   200-299      18
   300-399      17
   400-499      10
   500-599       7
   600-699       8
   700-799       6
   800-899       4
   900-999       5
 1000-1099       2
 1100-1199       5
 1200-1299       1
 1500-1599       1
 1600-1699       1
 1900-1999       2
 2000-2099       2
 2300-2399       1
     2400+       5

Range of
6-Mo Posts   Members
-----------  -------
        <0       4
         0     133
      1-49      96
     50-99      25
   100-149      19
   150-199      10
   200-249      11
   250-299       7
   300-349       9
   350-399       8
   400-449       8
   450-499       2
   500-549       4
   550-599       3
   600-649       5
   650-699       3
   700-749       1
   750-799       5
   800-849       3
   850-899       1
   900-949       2
   950-999       3
     1000+      20

Table Columns:
  • Range of 6-Mo Posts = the range of post-counts covered by this bin
  • Members = the count of members with this many posts
We can see that the most common range in both tables is 0 posts. The next most common is "under 100", or "under 50" in the table with bin-size of 50.

The "<0" bin has a few members whose post-count actually decreased over the 6-mo interval. This can happen when a member has posted in a thread that's later moved to an uncounted area, such as Wasteland. This doesn't mean the member isn't active, only that they have a post that was previously counted moved to an area where it's not counted.


The Graphs

GRAPH-98--histogram-100.gif


GRAPH-99--histogram-50.gif


First, let me acknowledge that these aren't Proper Histograms, which should be drawn with a vertical bar representing each bin count. Instead, I used the same automated line-graphing script I produced the other graphs with. I may make a bar-drawing version of the script, for future graphing fun.

As with the tables, we can easily see that "zero posts" dominates. We also see a rapid roll off as the post-count ranges increase.

The areas of the graph with no labels or vertical lines are where the bins were completely empty, i.e. no members had post-counts in that area. The graphed line doesn't drop to 0 in these areas, although it should to be completely accurate.

The up-tick at the right end is where the most prolific posters are found. You can see exactly who they are in the Active Posters Highlight in this thread.



Going Crazy

The automated scripts I use to produce the tables and graphs let me easily change the bin-width, and disable the top bin. I first made some of these for testing the scripts, to see how well they worked at the extremes. Some of the results were interesting, so here they are.


First we have two graphs with no top bin, and bin widths of 100 and 500. The "long tail" is plain to see, as are the gaps where no post-counts lie.

GRAPH-97--histogram-w100.gif


GRAPH-97--histogram-w500.gif


Next, here's the table and graph for a bin width of 10 and no top bin. This graph is extremely compressed toward the left, and the labels and lines drawn for each bin resemble a density map. It's this illegibility that illustrates the reason for using bins. Even with bins of width 10, this is definitely a candidate for an Ugly Graphs post.
Code:
Range of
6-Mo Posts   Members
-----------  -------
        <0       4
         0     133
       1-9      45
     10-19      19
     20-29      11
     30-39       8
     40-49      13
     50-59       9
     60-69       7
     70-79       6
     80-89       3
   100-109       6
   110-119       3
   120-129       3
   130-139       1
   140-149       6
   150-159       1
   160-169       2
   170-179       1
   180-189       2
   190-199       4
   200-209       4
   210-219       3
   220-229       2
   230-239       1
   240-249       1
   250-259       1
   260-269       1
   270-279       3
   280-289       1
   290-299       1
   310-319       1
   320-329       3
   330-339       3
   340-349       2
   350-359       2
   360-369       3
   370-379       2
   380-389       1
   400-409       2
   410-419       4
   440-449       2
   460-469       2
   500-509       1
   520-529       2
   540-549       1
   550-559       1
   560-569       1
   580-589       1
   600-609       1
   610-619       1
   620-629       1
   630-639       1
   640-649       1
   650-659       1
   670-679       1
   680-689       1
   730-739       1
   750-759       1
   760-769       2
   780-789       1
   790-799       1
   820-829       1
   830-839       1
   840-849       1
   880-889       1
   920-929       1
   940-949       1
   960-969       1
   990-999       2
 1000-1009       1
 1070-1079       1
 1110-1119       2
 1140-1149       1
 1180-1189       1
 1190-1199       1
 1290-1299       1
 1570-1579       1
 1620-1629       1
 1920-1929       2
 2040-2049       1
 2090-2099       1
 2340-2349       1
 2960-2969       1
 3010-3019       1
 3820-3829       1
 4170-4179       1
 5900-5909       1

GRAPH-96--histogram-w10.gif
 
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Histogram of Member Post-Counts

Welcome once again to "Fun with Graphs"!

Today we'll see a different kind of graph, a histogram. It will show how many MacRumors members have the same 6-month post-count.

For practical reasons (illustrated later), we use ranges of post-counts, which are called bins or buckets. The range of post-counts covered by a bin is called its size or width. For example, for a bin width of 100, all members with post-counts in the range 0 to 99 are put in the first bin, then those in the range 100-199 are put in the second bin, and so on. After all the members have been assigned to a bin, the bin counts are graphed. The bins represent the distribution of post-counts across the entire range. Some bins may be empty, meaning no member had a post-count within its range.

Previous graphs have looked at top posters, either by their total post-count, or by their prolificness in the prior 6-month interval. A histogram covers all the members, even those with few or no posts in the past 6 months. Technically, it covers all members with total post-counts of 4000 or more, because those are the only ones I collect data for.

The histogram data is presented first in Table form, then as graphs. The tables make it easier to see the exact counts of how many members are in each bin. The graphs look prettier.

I made two histograms with different bin-widths: 100 and 50. There's a separate bin for members with 0 posts. There's another separate bin for members with very high post-counts, a "top bin".


The Tables

Measurements taken 03 Jan 2019 by chown33.
Code:
Range of
6-Mo Posts   Members
-----------  -------
        <0       4
         0     133
      1-99     121
   100-199      29
   200-299      18
   300-399      17
   400-499      10
   500-599       7
   600-699       8
   700-799       6
   800-899       4
   900-999       5
 1000-1099       2
 1100-1199       5
 1200-1299       1
 1500-1599       1
 1600-1699       1
 1900-1999       2
 2000-2099       2
 2300-2399       1
     2400+       5

Range of
6-Mo Posts   Members
-----------  -------
        <0       4
         0     133
      1-49      96
     50-99      25
   100-149      19
   150-199      10
   200-249      11
   250-299       7
   300-349       9
   350-399       8
   400-449       8
   450-499       2
   500-549       4
   550-599       3
   600-649       5
   650-699       3
   700-749       1
   750-799       5
   800-849       3
   850-899       1
   900-949       2
   950-999       3
     1000+      20

Table Columns:
  • Range of 6-Mo Posts = the range of post-counts covered by this bin
  • Members = the count of members with this many posts
We can see that the most common range in both tables is 0 posts. The next most common is "under 100", or "under 50" in the table with bin-size of 50.

The "<0" bin has a few members whose post-count actually decreased over the 6-mo interval. This can happen when a member has posted in a thread that's later moved to an uncounted area, such as Wasteland. This doesn't mean the member isn't active, only that they have a post that was previously counted moved to an area where it's not counted.


The Graphs

View attachment 821079

View attachment 821080

First, let me acknowledge that these aren't Proper Histograms, which should be drawn with a vertical bar representing each bin count. Instead, I used the same automated line-graphing script I produced the other graphs with. I may make a bar-drawing version of the script, for future graphing fun.

As with the tables, we can easily see that "zero posts" dominates. We also see a rapid roll off as the post-count ranges increase.

The areas of the graph with no labels or vertical lines are where the bins were completely empty, i.e. no members had post-counts in that area. The graphed line doesn't drop to 0 in these areas, although it should to be completely accurate.

The up-tick at the right end is where the most prolific posters are found. You can see exactly who they are in the Active Posters Highlight in this thread.



Going Crazy

The automated scripts I use to produce the tables and graphs let me easily change the bin-width, and disable the top bin. I first made some of these for testing the scripts, to see how well they worked at the extremes. Some of the results were interesting, so here they are.


First we have two graphs with no top bin, and bin widths of 100 and 500. The "long tail" is plain to see, as are the gaps where no post-counts lie.

View attachment 821081

View attachment 821082

Next, here's the table and graph for a bin width of 10 and no top bin. This graph is extremely compressed toward the left, and the labels and lines drawn for each bin resemble a density map. It's this illegibility that illustrates the reason for using bins. Even with bins of width 10, this is definitely a candidate for an Ugly Graphs post.
Code:
Range of
6-Mo Posts   Members
-----------  -------
        <0       4
         0     133
       1-9      45
     10-19      19
     20-29      11
     30-39       8
     40-49      13
     50-59       9
     60-69       7
     70-79       6
     80-89       3
   100-109       6
   110-119       3
   120-129       3
   130-139       1
   140-149       6
   150-159       1
   160-169       2
   170-179       1
   180-189       2
   190-199       4
   200-209       4
   210-219       3
   220-229       2
   230-239       1
   240-249       1
   250-259       1
   260-269       1
   270-279       3
   280-289       1
   290-299       1
   310-319       1
   320-329       3
   330-339       3
   340-349       2
   350-359       2
   360-369       3
   370-379       2
   380-389       1
   400-409       2
   410-419       4
   440-449       2
   460-469       2
   500-509       1
   520-529       2
   540-549       1
   550-559       1
   560-569       1
   580-589       1
   600-609       1
   610-619       1
   620-629       1
   630-639       1
   640-649       1
   650-659       1
   670-679       1
   680-689       1
   730-739       1
   750-759       1
   760-769       2
   780-789       1
   790-799       1
   820-829       1
   830-839       1
   840-849       1
   880-889       1
   920-929       1
   940-949       1
   960-969       1
   990-999       2
 1000-1009       1
 1070-1079       1
 1110-1119       2
 1140-1149       1
 1180-1189       1
 1190-1199       1
 1290-1299       1
 1570-1579       1
 1620-1629       1
 1920-1929       2
 2040-2049       1
 2090-2099       1
 2340-2349       1
 2960-2969       1
 3010-3019       1
 3820-3829       1
 4170-4179       1
 5900-5909       1

View attachment 821083

Extraordinary and very impressive.

Fascinating.
 
Another way to show information about the numbers in their buckets, in this case for the bin width of 50, is to group the ranges so they have approximately equal totals, then see where the post-count breaks are. In this case we see that about 1/3 of users have post counts from 1 to 150, with 1/3 above that and 1/3 below that.

You could do this same exercise with the raw data, in which case the ranges wouldn't have to start and end on boundaries that are multiples of 50, and it would be little more accurate.

width-50-ranges.png
 
Another way to show information about the numbers in their buckets, in this case for the bin width of 50, is to group the ranges so they have approximately equal totals, then see where the post-count breaks are. In this case we see that about 1/3 of users have post counts from 1 to 150, with 1/3 above that and 1/3 below that.

You could do this same exercise with the raw data, in which case the ranges wouldn't have to start and end on boundaries that are multiples of 50, and it would be little more accurate.

View attachment 821116
If I understand this correctly, you're suggesting quantiles. I thought about doing quartiles or quintiles, but I mostly wanted to see a ski-slope graph, so a histogram seemed like the obvious approach. I knew there was going to be a big cluster of 0's and low numbers, so I didn't think the quantiles would be that interesting, visually.
 
Perhaps I like quantiles just because they start with a Q.

I agree that my pie chart wasn't that visually interesting. What I wanted to know was the number post-count range of the middle third.
 
You are, in fact, the tip of the tail.

I don't think "lurk" is the word I'd use, since that implies concealment or being barely discernible. "Most prolific" strikes me as the opposite of "lurk".
Lurking reminds me of something youths do on street corners or ladies of the night in alleyways. I’d not associate @Scepticalscribe with either of those.
 
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You are, in fact, the tip of the tail.

I don't think "lurk" is the word I'd use, since that implies concealment or being barely discernible. "Most prolific" strikes me as the opposite of "lurk".

Lurking reminds me of something youths do on street corners or ladies of the night in alleyways. I’d not associate @Scepticalscribe with either of those.

Fair enough and well argued. Thank you, both, and well spotted.

In fact, I stand corrected.

In that case, I think the verb I ought to have employed in this context should have read that I am to be found "lying at the tip of the tail."
 
Fair enough and well argued. Thank you, both, and well spotted.

In fact, I stand corrected.

In that case, I think the verb I ought to have employed in this context should have read that I am to be found "lying at the tip of the tail."
I was trying to think of a word that meant "at the end of", and the only one I came up with offhand was "acme", but I felt there was another word, similarly brief, that was better. That led me into thesaurical explorations, at which point (heh) I eventually found "apex", and its adjectival form "apical". Although it usually means "highest point", it also refers to the tip of something. So a spear or arrow has a single apex (tip or point) regardless of its orientation, but its highest point will be the anti-apical end if it's pointing downward.

So you're the apex of the tail.
 
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