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I am going to have to object to the "Iphone Air flops" title. It sold astoundingly well in China and its still too early to determine that. Very unfair to Apple.
Just because it does well in one part of the world doesn’t make it a reflection on the rest the majority of individuals will purchase the base 17 over the AIR because of preceived value from cameras to battery life & cost at the moment there is no need to pick the air over the base 17 iPhone
 
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I doubt Apple cares about the success or not of the Air as it is effectively an engineering first step towards the flip iPhonePad double screen device. The Air is half of the iPhonePad and I'm sure has been helpful in the roadmap for that device.
 
It sold so "astoundingly" well that virtually all stores have it in stock for immediate pickup.

It's been 72 hours since Air was made available in the country.


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You know what's really selling well? iPhone 17 base. Every color and storage option is out of stock.

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yeah it's always a deciding factor. when you go in store and buy it without ordering is normally a sign
 
Imagine claiming to love the iPA but then complaining about the two things that allow it to exist (battery, camera). So what you mean is you want the iphone pro.

Imagine buying a Lambo and complaining it isn't great for crosscountry roadtrips in the winter.
 
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Apple's "thin, thin, thin" innovation trajectory was always going to end in tears.

People have been questioning this obsession for years, especially at the expense of battery life and other key features. The iPhone Air is a perfect example of how that obsession eventually creates untenable compromises that even the most loyal fans and early adopters can't abide.

All that said… I find it interesting that the MacBook Airs are NOT "thin, thin, thin" anymore, but instead are just feature-stripped versions of the Pros.

There is little difference in average thickness between the wedge-shaped Air and the new Macbook Air design introduced with the M2 chip. The wedge Air is considerably thicker than the new Air design in its thickest part and considerably thinner at the edge of the wedge. But on average, it's pretty much the same as the uniform thickness of the M2 Air. This is further borne out by the fact that their weights are nearly equal, with the new Air design being .1 pound lighter than the old wedge Air.
 
Define “flop”. Several iPhones have been called flops in the past (like the SE) but when actual sales numbers are available we find their “flops” outsold competitors.

The Pixel is the real definition of a flop. Apple sells as many iPhones in their slowest quarter of the year as Google has sold Pixels in the past 7 years combined.
There is not going to be another AIR next year, that's my definition.
 
The iPhone Air is perfect. Large and lightweight, the air MagSafe charger since purchase has let me never plug in my phone to charge. I just set it on the battery wherever I want. Then when you use it you set the battery aside.

So sad Steve no longer does the tutorials on stage of how to use the products, no one knows how to use a battery extender.
If it was perfect, this conversation wouldn't exist, i'm not saying is not perfect for you or more people, but for the majority, it is not. and people have spoken with their wallets, same thing happens with EV's even when the average driver doesn't Do 1000 miles trips often, most people will try to get the EV with the biggest battery that they can afford.
 
If it was perfect, this conversation wouldn't exist, i'm not saying is not perfect for you or more people, but for the majority, it is not. and people have spoken with their wallets, same thing happens with EV's even when the average driver doesn't Do 1000 miles trips often, most people will try to get the EV with the biggest battery that they can afford.
In more transportation friendly areas they have battery swap stations for scooters that take seconds to hotswop and go.

I owned a first gen $600 iPhone, and everyone made fun of me for overpaying. I now own the first Air line model, and people still make fun. Some things will never change those blind to the future.
 
I need to get my mini on a diet - I would love a mini as thin as the Air 💨

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In more transportation friendly areas they have battery swap stations for scooters that take seconds to hotswop and go.

I owned a first gen $600 iPhone, and everyone made fun of me for overpaying. I now own the first Air line model, and people still make fun. Some things will never change those blind to the future.
No, it is just that people have different priorities, in this case not every one care to the limitations of the AIR, versus the benefits.
 
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