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iPad Torn between selling iPad 4 or returning Mini Retina

I think 617 makes some good points. I generally agree with the spirit of what he saying. However, also important to remember the big picture.

When I was a teenager in the 1980s I wasn't allowed to watch tv in evenings forced to study alone in my room every evening, lot of abuse, don't feel like typing. Tired.

In 1990s I watched a ton of tv, made me hate it. Lot of comedies, soaps, dramas, morning show, evening show, everything. All of it. From 1991 to 2001, exactly ten yrs. I used to set my alarm for 2 am to watch designing women. I used to watch Katie couric and lauer every morning. I still like them both and roker. I always detested curry since time immemorial.

I quit in 2002. And quitting was awesome. Anyway I am tired of typing. My point is, overall, yes having two tablets is wasteful and foolish. But overall, I led a simple life. So I think it's ok right now but I've already pretty much decided to sell the 4 . Watching lincoln and life of pi on mini tonight clinched it for me. I am not even willing to watch movies on the 4 now because somehow or other the mini is just the perfect tv and movie player I was waiting for and I am not even into that stuff
 
rajpatel said:
It's too bad cuz the mini is so sweet. But I just really need the ten inch screen. I hate all the panning and zooming of mini after awhile
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With the right browser, there is no panning or zooming. I use Mercury browser and it allows me to resize the text. When I do that it reflows the text too. It also allows me full screen browsing on my rMini.
 
The mini is just too small for me to use to comfortably surf the web for hours like I do on my 4.

My 4 is like a Camry for surfing the web.

My mini is like a Toyota mr2 from the eighties, the two seater. Fine for a while, but tiring after some period.

But that is yet another reason I am selling the 4 and keeping the mini, I want to drastically reduce or possibly even eliminate to the max extent possible, my web surfing. Cuz I too am really enjoying iTunes tv and movie with my mini now. But I just feel the web surfing is dumb
 
rajpatel said:
I think 617 makes some good points. I generally agree with the spirit of what he saying. However, also important to remember the big picture.

When I was a teenager in the 1980s I wasn't allowed to watch tv in evenings forced to study alone in my room every evening, lot of abuse, don't feel like typing. Tired.

In 1990s I watched a ton of tv, made me hate it. Lot of comedies, soaps, dramas, morning show, evening show, everything. All of it. From 1991 to 2001, exactly ten yrs. I used to set my alarm for 2 am to watch designing women. I used to watch Katie couric and lauer every morning. I still like them both and roker. I always detested curry since time immemorial.

I quit in 2002. And quitting was awesome. Anyway I am tired of typing. My point is, overall, yes having two tablets is wasteful and foolish. But overall, I led a simple life. So I think it's ok right now but I've already pretty much decided to sell the 4 . Watching lincoln and life of pi on mini tonight clinched it for me. I am not even willing to watch movies on the 4 now because somehow or other the mini is just the perfect tv and movie player I was waiting for and I am not even into that stuff
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Seriously! You have bigger problems that dealing with devices. Get a grip!
 
Sell both and the iPhone. Get a cheapy android from swappa and use that till your contract is up. You'd easily get enough money from selling all three to pay for food for yourself for a couple of months. Or probably could throw $1000 at your debts.

iPhones and iPads are pure luxury/materialistic items that it seems you can't afford right now.
 
An eighty dollar phone is not a luxury when Verizon's cheapest phone is half that. So I cud have some crap phone for 35 and for another 45, I could Hv the best phone on earth. My opinion.

If it was really bout money, I wud just return the mini. I can't get much for my 4 cuz I'm too lazy. The most I can do probably is sell it to GameStop for 180 cash. Or maybe the apple recycling thing. I have sold minor stuff on eBay and Craig's list.m but frankly I never sold something major on them, and I don't wanna send something expensive in mail. Plus just the other day, a man trying to sell his ipad on cl was murdered

Actually he was trying to buy one but same difference. Point is. I don't feel like dealing with some random stranger.
 
I would keep the iPad 4 cuz i like the bigger screen. And it will most likely going to be easier to sell a new iPad mini with retina. When selling tech sooner is better.
 
This is one of the most ridiculous threads I've read since joining MR. The kind of advice you need isn't going to be found on these boards. If you aren't playing around and joking, I just hope you begin to take the right things more seriously. iPads and iPhones should not even be a concern for you.
 
Sell both and hire a therapist. Your priorities are screwed up ma man. 18k in credit card sent debt and your agonizing on iPads? Furthermore you admit you ran through several thousand in debt for nothing. Self improvement man. You gotta work on thyself.

It's like people in crappy neighborhoods buying 200 dollar Jordan's and taking the bus to a crappy no future job. Invest that 200 on something else. Set it aside for a ****** but reliable beat up Honda so you can get a better job. Little adjustments in your life go a long way.
 
nj1266 said:
With the right browser, there is no panning or zooming. I use Mercury browser and it allows me to resize the text. When I do that it reflows the text too. It also allows me full screen browsing on my rMini.
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Yea but it kooks like ****. Totally destroys the apple smooth pleasent on the eyes user experience. Web was designed for big screens, still is, until forums work out how to deliver content to tablets like the mini were stuck in 1995. Maybe they'll reframe their content and use iOS 7 text enlargement feature without the whole place looking messy
 
As a matter of principle

Just as a matter of principle you should sell the iphone and both ipads. You're gonna end up stiffing the creditors at some point. That will not only hurt those companies, their employees, but also their other customers. American are so oblivious, its pathetic. Man up, take some responsibility, and get some morals. You'll be a much happier person and an asset to your fellow man. This is the perfect example of why this country is in so much trouble. I'm just relieved a couple others here were wise enough to point out the errors of your ways.
 
even if I did, there is a punishment. It's called a charge off and seven years of wrecked credit.

In 1990 I was young and didn't know about these things. Didn't have the money for a 200 dollar credit card bill. Defaulted, seven yrs of wrecked credit for two hundred bucks.

Ten yrs later, another default of four hundred bucks. Charge off and seven yrs of wrecked credit over four hundred bucks.

You make it sound like I stole from those companies and I didn't. They decided to extend me credit. If I default, I will suffer seven yrs of wrecked credit. Also, there would probably be court proceedings for amounts this big and there absolutely should be. I won't default, tho it will pay big interest on revolving balances for many many years. I know this. But I won't default bc I have lived thru two seven yr periods of wrecked credit over chump change and I'm not goin thru that again. Everything is made difficult, from renting an apt, to a car loan, to obtaining credit, even simply getting phone service, gotta put up hundreds in deposit for a phone.

Some of u take this personally. Will hurt that company, their employees etc. you must be idiots. A default of a few thousand bucks, over a few cards each, is not going to cause a hiccup in some billion dollar conglomerate.
 
rajpatel said:
Some of u take this personally. Will hurt that company, their employees etc. you must be idiots. A default of a few thousand bucks, over a few cards each, is not going to cause a hiccup in some billion dollar conglomerate.
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And there it is. You are even more foolish than I thought...and hopeless. If your story is true, you will eventually default again. Hopefully, someday you'll be successful enough to understand how absolutely clueless you are now. If so, you will cringe with embarrassment. And then maybe you'll be thankful those that have paid for your idiocracy in life.
 
Shut up, moron. Nobody gave me anything. And seven yrs of wrecked credit for a few hundred bucks default MORE than fits the crime and punishes it. And all the more so, since those few hundred bucks debt was bought by another company, and then ballooned up to a thousand bucks or several hundred thru chicanery and then my jackass father opened my mail as he did thru out life and paid some thousand dollar bill which was not valid in the first place. I had already endured seven years of wrecked credit.

You holier than thous are a bunch of sanctimonious pricks. Mind your own damn business. You people make it sound like debt is some immoral black hole from which one can never emerge. Again, seven years of wrecked credit is waaaay overkill for a two hundred dollar default.

Secondly, selling all my stuff, my already extremely few possessions, would not be logical. Downgrading my phone to nab an extra forty bucks. Whoop de doo. Or selling my 4 for a couple of hundred dollars. Again, that won't do much and rob me of my only hobby, reading.

It so happens I will be in this debt hole for a long time. Yes it is 20k, I work min wage and the majority of my dough goes to interest. Yes, it sucks. However, there is not much that can be done. Where it goes I don't know however there is no reason to accuse me of future default, even on big bills. Twice now, I've seen the consequences of that, and there won't be a third time. Lastly, even on my biggest balance, 10k, the interest is 140 a month. That's my biggest card, the other three are 2k, 2k, and 3k, plus a small student loan. That's the 20k.

I don't know what the deal is with angry bitter stupid people on here pretending cuz I have 20k in debt that I don't deserve an ipad. Guess what......my life, my business. The average American has 8k in credit card debt. Ok, so I have twice that amount. It's not 100k, or 50k, or even 25k. And stop pretending just because someone has debt he shouldn't have even a basic computer. Like I said, it's just like when you loan someone money. If he doesn't pay you back, maybe you shouldn't have loaned him the damn money. This is not me mugging some little old little lady in a back alley. If Citibank decided to loan me money, they did so knowing what the risks were. Nobody exploited or took advantage of them. And there is a very punitive system in place to deal with defaults. So stop telling me to sell all my stuff, of which there is barely anything anyway........and mind your own business.

And incidentally, in case anybody wrongly thinks from the beginning above, that my dad was just being nice. No.

This evil and ugly animal confined me to a room every weeknight during the school year from age 12 to 18 and wrote in a letter a few yrs back that the whole country should have these rules for all students in school and college. When my school would send a card asking for a few bucks donation to help with sports this ugly animal would donate four grand and scream at me the teachers will give bad grades unless he does and that I don't care about money. This ugly animal beat me savagely and brutally for years, even for using the phone to call classmates for fundraisers as I had to as a student govt rep. This piece of trash even paid 30k to scum running unaccredited trash in India masquerading as school after I spent three years there for nothing, on my behalf supposedly against my will, despite my begging and pleading with him not to. Just wanted to clarify bc I'm trying to put together a case for the authorities, and I don't want anyone interpreting that gesture mentioned at the beginning as a favor. This ugly animal treated me as property lifelong. He has been disciplined on multiple occasions at local hospitals where he is a doc for screaming at nurses and abusing. He is a psychopath and a piece of crap.
 
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rajpatel said:
Wish I cud keep both but I'm a broke mf. I need the money for straight up food, no joke. Not some vacation, or party or grand adventure.......just food.
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rajpatel said:
up to my neck in debt (20k) and my min wage job money all goes to interest every month. Not all but almost all, with a little left over for grocery store.
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rajpatel said:
A year ago I bought my first apple product in decades......iPod touch 5g. Then a shuffle. Then a nano. Then the ipad 4. Gave five shuffles as gifts. Got an iPhone 5 in sept. Then the mini in nov.
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rajpatel said:
eighteen months ago my debt was about 8k on a student loan and 2k credit card debt. Now the cc debt is 20k.
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rajpatel said:
I am an Internet addict. It's just soul draining, I don't see the point. It would be ok if I could moderate. But I can't.
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rajpatel said:
Truth be told, I have a certain habit which is costly and I am doing my damnedest to stop. You wouldn't even believe what extraordinary lengths I've gone to to stop. This being net, and with ugly govts eyes and ears everywhere, I'll leave it at that.
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rajpatel said:
If it was really bout money, I wud just return the mini. I can't get much for my 4 cuz I'm too lazy.
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rajpatel said:
In 1990 I was young and didn't know about these things. Didn't have the money for a 200 dollar credit card bill. Defaulted, seven yrs of wrecked credit for two hundred bucks.

Ten yrs later, another default of four hundred bucks. Charge off and seven yrs of wrecked credit over four hundred bucks.
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rajpatel said:
selling all my stuff, my already extremely few possessions, would not be logical. Downgrading my phone to nab an extra forty bucks. Whoop de doo. Or selling my 4 for a couple of hundred dollars. Again, that won't do much and rob me of my only hobby, reading.
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rajpatel said:
mind your own business
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Dude. You put this all out there. Nobody forced you to. If you don't want people judging you, then use a filter...
 
I posted earlier "2 words...behavior modification". I need to amend that comment to:

3 words...behavior modification urgently.
 
Although I coveted many things Apple since childhood, i didnt purchase my first apple product (iphone 4) until I was in my late thirties and very successful. I didn't blow my future on extravagances I couldn't afford. Now who's the moron?


With 17K of credit card interest and a minimum wage job, you will default again. You're one toothache away...or car problem, or medical problem.

Maybe there is some anger here. But I dont blame some for being sick and tired for paying for other's mistakes...through taxes, higher interest rates, licenses, insurance, whatever. And you blaming the creditors for trusting you to pay your debt is disgusting. Your father probably saw this malfeasance in you and tried his damnedest to correct it. It didnt work.


Not to politicize this but have you signed up for your Obamacare? There goes more money.
The eventual mandate and fines for non compliance are a reality. You wont be able to survive without defaulting.
 
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rajpatel said:
Shut up, moron. Nobody gave me anything. And seven yrs of wrecked credit for a few hundred bucks default MORE than fits the crime and punishes it. And all the more so, since those few hundred bucks debt was bought by another company, and then ballooned up to a thousand bucks or several hundred thru chicanery and then my jackass father opened my mail as he did thru out life and paid some thousand dollar bill which was not valid in the first place. I had already endured seven years of wrecked credit.

You holier than thous are a bunch of sanctimonious pricks. Mind your own damn business. You people make it sound like debt is some immoral black hole from which one can never emerge. Again, seven years of wrecked credit is waaaay overkill for a two hundred dollar default.

Secondly, selling all my stuff, my already extremely few possessions, would not be logical. Downgrading my phone to nab an extra forty bucks. Whoop de doo. Or selling my 4 for a couple of hundred dollars. Again, that won't do much and rob me of my only hobby, reading.

It so happens I will be in this debt hole for a long time. Yes it is 20k, I work min wage and the majority of my dough goes to interest. Yes, it sucks. However, there is not much that can be done. Where it goes I don't know however there is no reason to accuse me of future default, even on big bills. Twice now, I've seen the consequences of that, and there won't be a third time. Lastly, even on my biggest balance, 10k, the interest is 140 a month. That's my biggest card, the other three are 2k, 2k, and 3k, plus a small student loan. That's the 20k.

I don't know what the deal is with angry bitter stupid people on here pretending cuz I have 20k in debt that I don't deserve an ipad. Guess what......my life, my business. The average American has 8k in credit card debt. Ok, so I have twice that amount. It's not 100k, or 50k, or even 25k. And stop pretending just because someone has debt he shouldn't have even a basic computer. Like I said, it's just like when you loan someone money. If he doesn't pay you back, maybe you shouldn't have loaned him the damn money. This is not me mugging some little old little lady in a back alley. If Citibank decided to loan me money, they did so knowing what the risks were. Nobody exploited or took advantage of them. And there is a very punitive system in place to deal with defaults. So stop telling me to sell all my stuff, of which there is barely anything anyway........and mind your own business.

And incidentally, in case anybody wrongly thinks from the beginning above, that my dad was just being nice. No.

This evil and ugly animal confined me to a room every weeknight during the school year from age 12 to 18 and wrote in a letter a few yrs back that the whole country should have these rules for all students in school and college. When my school would send a card asking for a few bucks donation to help with sports this ugly animal would donate four grand and scream at me the teachers will give bad grades unless he does and that I don't care about money. This ugly animal beat me savagely and brutally for years, even for using the phone to call classmates for fundraisers as I had to as a student govt rep. This piece of trash even paid 30k to scum running unaccredited trash in India masquerading as school after I spent three years there for nothing, on my behalf supposedly against my will, despite my begging and pleading with him not to. Just wanted to clarify bc I'm trying to put together a case for the authorities, and I don't want anyone interpreting that gesture mentioned at the beginning as a favor. This ugly animal treated me as property lifelong. He has been disciplined on multiple occasions at local hospitals where he is a doc for screaming at nurses and abusing. He is a psychopath and a piece of crap.
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Wow, all of this when u provided all this info. Again, this is your problem not ours. You decided to share this info.
 
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