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you are conflating not allowing on the App Store with not allowing at all
No. I'm not conflating at all. The fact that Apple doesn't actively police your machine to prevent you from running a torrent downloader is different from it Apple "allowing" it. Maybe you should refresh your memory on Rice's Theorem to understand why.
 
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Good. If EU developers are so greedy that they don’t want to pay their fair share of sales commission to Apple, they deserve to be pirated.

I knew pirating would be coming once Apple is no longer in control as Apple did their best to not allow this.
They’re going to be pirating American content too…
 
No. I'm not conflating at all. The fact that Apple doesn't actively police your machine to prevent you from running a torrent downloader is different from it Apple "allowing" it. Maybe you should refresh your memory on Rice's Theorem to understand why.

Apple allows torrent apps to be signed by developers ids
 
Apple allows torrent apps to be signed by developers ids
Please review Rice's Theorem to understand why.

[Hint: The I/O of a torrent downloader is a nontrivial property. Rice's Theorem thus proves that it is impossible to create an algorithm that reliably determines whether or not a general program is a torrent downloader.]
 
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Please review Rice's Theorem to understand why.

[Hint: The I/O of a torrent downloader is a nontrivial property. Rice's Theorem thus proves that it is impossible to create an algorithm that reliably determines whether or not a general program is a torrent downloader.]

The programs little describe themselves as torrent downloaders and Apple allows them to be signed


It’s not a matter of being able to determine if that is what there are or not

Please familiarize yourself with the subject you are talking about for trying to be cute about it

You are really stretching here….
 
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Huh. Never thought about a torrent client on mobile devices, but if I can find a nice way to find a use for this it would be handy to have on my iPad
 
I will leave you to think about why Apple doesn't do the impossible. Don't hurt yourself.

it’s not impossible to determine an apps purpose by reading its description at all.

though if you want to try to say that apple allows them only because there is no way for them to be absolutely certain that some app is not downloading torrents than I suppose that you could try to make that case

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You seem to want to complicate something very simple:

Apple allows the user to install and run apps from outside the App Store on their computers

Apps from outside the App Store included torrent apps

Apple allows the user to install and run torrent apps on their computers

So your original statement remains completely false
 
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This, it’s always funny to me when people yell like their lives depend on it for the iPhone but meanwhile you can do it on a Mac since forever.
Jesus people making that argument need to realize that Macs and iPhones are two different products with two different paradigms. Yes, it’s technically possible to do have them do the exact same tasks, but that was never the intention.
 
That’s why you use a VPN for stuff like that. You’ll never get caught by your ISP with a VPN.
Yeah torrents took a slight decline in popularity when ISPs started sending out warning letters. I think AT&T claims after like 6 letters they will supposedly suspend your internet service, but I'm not sure they actually would.

I get one about once a year when my VPN disconnects or something. You can use even a free vpn service and nothing will ever happen to you.

What's more interesting is what will happen with phone torrenting (the cellular network was not designed to handle the constant and massive data transfers involved with torrenting), and also what will happen with the movie studios reporting phone ISPs to the phone company. That's going to be a huge headache for everyone involved and it's a lot bigger deal to shut down your phone number than it is to suspend your home wifi.

I can't imagine ever wanting to torrent something on my telephone tho.
 
That is false, of course. The Alternative Terms Addendum for Apps in the EU specifies that :


And how could it be any different. Of course the EU doesn't want illegal content and of course won't complain when Apple blocks stores from distributing illegal content.
So again, yours is just an ignorant take.

And yet they allow emulators. Which honestly legally are still a gray area. Also "Digital Services Act, the General Data Protection Regulation, and consumer protection laws" aren't copyright laws. Which are handled on a national level.
 
And yet they allow emulators. Which honestly legally are still a gray area. Also "Digital Services Act, the General Data Protection Regulation, and consumer protection laws" aren't copyright laws. Which are handled on a national level.
Emulators aren’t in any grey area. They are legal, period.

Just admit that you were wrong and move on.
 
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I never said they’d win though, just be inundated.
Just like McDonalds didn’t stop serving hamburgers because people sued them for becoming fat, Apple won’t stop external app stores because people are stupid. Again, people can download torrents on the Mac and you are simply making up problems that simply to not exist.
 
This is false. Apps that facilitate illegal file sharing or that violate copyright laws are not allowed on the App Store as per Apple’s guidelines. However, users can still download torrent apps from developer websites if they choose to do so.

If Apple were to allow Torrent apps on the App Store, they would be sued by every big record and video company for aiding and abetting piracy. Small developers who distribute their programs on their own websites don't get sued because they have nothing to take. It will be interesting to see if alternative app stores get sued. My guess is probably not because none will accumulate enough assets to make lawsuits profitable.
My statement was not false. "If Apple were to allow Torrent apps on the App Store, they would be sued by every big record and video company for aiding and abetting piracy." - This, however is false. On the other side, Google allows torrent apps on the regular Play Store. They allowed them forever ago. They don't get sued. Allowing torrent applications is not aiding and abetting piracy.
 
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Just like McDonalds didn’t stop serving hamburgers because people sued them for becoming fat, Apple won’t stop external app stores because people are stupid. Again, people can download torrents on the Mac and you are simply making up problems that simply to not exist.
But then it gathered enough moss that Supersize Me changed the conversation.

The trust we have in Apple is only there as long as it remains profitable. Having one portal for all software will eventually prove to be a liability.
 
And yet they allow emulators. Which honestly legally are still a gray area. Also "Digital Services Act, the General Data Protection Regulation, and consumer protection laws" aren't copyright laws. Which are handled on a national level.

Emulators are perfectly legal

No gray area there
 
My statement was not false. "If Apple were to allow Torrent apps on the App Store, they would be sued by every big record and video company for aiding and abetting piracy." - This, however is false. On the other side, Google allows torrent apps on the regular Play Store. They allowed them forever ago. They don't get sued. Allowing torrent applications is not aiding and abetting piracy.

Plus Apple allows torrent apps on macOS. So why aren’t they already being sued?
 
Plus Apple allows torrent apps on macOS. So why aren’t they already being sued?
Do they offer them on the macOS App Store? Honest question, as I don't torrent.

I would think there is a difference between allowing others to offer a torrent apps on their platform and Apple itself offering a torrenting app through a store they run. Doesn't mean they would be sued (pretty sure they wouldn't), but I could see why Apple might take a more careful approach on a store they run.
 
Do they offer them on the macOS App Store? Honest question, as I don't torrent.

I would think there is a difference between allowing others to offer a torrent apps on their platform and Apple itself offering a torrenting app through a store they run. Doesn't mean they would be sued (pretty sure they wouldn't), but I could see why Apple might take a more careful approach on a store they run.
No, there are no torrent apps in the store, but that's because of Apple's own policy. Not because torrent apps are illegal (they are not). It's the same story with porn, etc.
 
Do they offer them on the macOS App Store? Honest question, as I don't torrent.
No, Apple does not allow torrent downloaders on the App Store. Apps that facilitate illegal file sharing, such as torrent downloaders, are prohibited under Apple’s App Store Review Guidelines. Apps that promote or enable illegal activity, including copyright infringement, are typically rejected or removed from the App Store.
 
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