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If they are signed by any record company, this could actually still be illegal. Even if they (the artist) would allow it. (record company has publishing rights). But it could fall under "fair use", however I doubt that if it's just the unedited show.
Well, one band I follow particularly, Dave Matthews Band, has an entire section on their website not only allowing tapes to be shared, but encouraging it. And it's encouraged by their management too. That's actually the way they got big, sharing tapes and word of mouth.
 
Good. If EU developers are so greedy that they don’t want to pay their fair share of sales commission to Apple, they deserve to be pirated.

I knew pirating would be coming once Apple is no longer in control as Apple did their best to not allow this.
This is not the point. The point is that the EU should be happy with this. Because they want as much freedom in an iPhone as in a Computer.

ONLY if they are not happy with this, I am about to ROLF to the EU Commission and point my finger on them.
 
iPhone users in the European Union can now install torrenting apps, bypassing Apple's stringent App Store policies (via The Verge).
The alternative app marketplace AltStore PAL is now offering torrenting apps, a category that has historically been banned by Apple. This follows the introduction of the .,,.​

I’d love to see an app that would allow recording both sides of a conversation easily on my iPhone. I understand this is available on Android. Currently I use the speaker function on my phone and record conversations with my Apple Watch using an app called Just Press Record.
 
Well, one band I follow particularly, Dave Matthews Band, has an entire section on their website not only allowing tapes to be shared, but encouraging it. And it's encouraged by their management too. That's actually the way they got big, sharing tapes and word of mouth.

Then it's legal. But there are artist who got into trouble for doing this kind of thing in the past.
 
If only people educated themselves before talking… jeez it’s tiring.

Apple puts limits on what external app stores can do. If one store brakes the rules Apple can and will remove its credentials so that the store can’t work anymore on iOS. Apple can probably remotely remove third party stores illegal apps as well, just like they can with App Store apps.

Apple is not allowed to put any real limits on what external App stores can do, sadly. Luckily the EU does have some copyright protection against this happening, but the EU is slow and usually doesn't really care.
 
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Apple is not allowed to put any real limits on what external App stores can do, sadly. Luckily the EU does have some copyright protection against this happening, but the EU is slow and usually doesn't really care.
That is false, of course. The Alternative Terms Addendum for Apps in the EU specifies that :

You must acknowledge that You will comply with applicable laws of the jurisdictions in which You
operate, including, e.g., the Digital Services Act, the General Data Protection Regulation, and consumer
protection laws
And how could it be any different. Of course the EU doesn't want illegal content and of course won't complain when Apple blocks stores from distributing illegal content.
So again, yours is just an ignorant take.
 
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I don't use torrents, but I'm glad to see this. Its appearance clearly shows that it's what the market demands, and Apple is actively trying to suppress that.
When this doesn't turn out to be the security nightmare some predict, hopefully other countries will realise it is for the benefit of the consumer to have an open app market.
 
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It’s not a nightmare on Mac, why should it be on iPhone?
I think the issue is the gullibility of the mass market. The general public no longer buy computers (Mac or PC) to just perform generalised tasks when their phone already does it all. Computers tend to be used *on the whole* by people with some level of basic digital literacy.

Phones however are not. The experience is a lot more controlled and the audience spoon-fed by Apple and Google. This has created secure walled gardens where freedom is sacrificed for safety. Less thsan 5% of Android users sideload anything for a reason. You open this up like desktops and it becomes a big red dot for scammers worldwide.

There would be multiple lawsuits from digitally illiterate consumers who bought their devices in good faith that data would remain secure. In spite of this I still think phones should be open platforms but I also think that we should be teaching proper digital literacy rather than how to assemble a powerpoint. Phone usage should come with a licence in the same way a car does.
 
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Correct, which is why the previous poster should read the developer agreement and see that they don’t get a license to user iOS to make paid apps as a part of their $99 per year developer membership, that requires additional payment.
Its more the infrastructure and service you're paying for. There isn't anything wrong with Apple's cut; it gets developers hosting, bug-finding, a global distribution channel, API security and in some cases marketing. It is often described as a derogatory 'tax' but taxation pays for infrastructure, services, defence and healthcare. The happiest, safest countries on earth have the highest tax rates!
 
I think the issue is the gullibility of the mass market. The general public no longer buy computers (Mac or PC) to just perform generalised tasks when their phone already does it all. Computers tend to be used *on the whole* by people with some level of basic digital literacy.

Phones however are not. The experience is a lot more controlled and the audience spoon-fed by Apple and Google. This has created secure walled gardens where freedom is sacrificed for safety. Less thsan 5% of Android users sideload anything for a reason. You open this up like desktops and it becomes a big red dot for scammers worldwide.

There would be multiple lawsuits from digitally illiterate consumers who bought their devices in good faith that data would remain secure. In spite of this I still think phones should be open platforms but I also think that we should be teaching proper digital literacy rather than how to assemble a powerpoint. Phone usage should come with a licence in the same way a car does.
Nonsense. People who sue because they downloaded the wrong app outside of the AppStore are absolutely certain to lose.
Again, there is no nightmare just because a torrent app is coming to iOS. That too is utter nonsense.
 
Nonsense. People who sue because they downloaded the wrong app outside of the AppStore are absolutely certain to lose.
Again, there is no nightmare just because a torrent app is coming to iOS. That too is utter nonsense.
This is a side-debate from torrenting. And we live in a world where people sue Mcdonalds because it made them fat. If the events of the last 5 years have taught us anything its that we can't put anything past the general public.
 
It is? My cousin had to pay 900€ for 12 seconds of an Modern Family episode. Some studios even hire some shady law firms to leech their own content to grab IPs

Just google torrent fines + Germany
I am in Germany. Downloading illegal content (such as copyrighted content) is prohibited. Using torrent software in general or for any other reason is perfectly legal in Germany.
 
You know that the holy Apple allows torrenting on the MAC, right? Like you can do it day n night.
This is false. Apps that facilitate illegal file sharing or that violate copyright laws are not allowed on the App Store as per Apple’s guidelines. However, users can still download torrent apps from developer websites if they choose to do so.

If Apple were to allow Torrent apps on the App Store, they would be sued by every big record and video company for aiding and abetting piracy. Small developers who distribute their programs on their own websites don't get sued because they have nothing to take. It will be interesting to see if alternative app stores get sued. My guess is probably not because none will accumulate enough assets to make lawsuits profitable.
 
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This is a side-debate from torrenting. And we live in a world where people sue Mcdonalds because it made them fat. If the events of the last 5 years have taught us anything its that we can't put anything past the general public.
Yes and people who sue Mc Donald’s rightfully lose.
 
This is false. Apps that facilitate illegal file sharing or that violate copyright laws are not allowed on the App Store as per Apple’s guidelines.

you are conflating not allowing on the App Store with not allowing at all
 
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