Toshiba Prototypes 120 GB 1.8

[shoelessone]

There is NEVER enough space.

EXACTLY!

That's the problem. I have well over 500gb of music, at least 100gb of that is audio books, but still. I collect crap. I collect music. I have most discographys, etc. I think I have something like 9 gigs just of Sublime, for instance.

Anyway, my point is that (although I hate myself for detracking from perhaps the point of this thread), I guess I've gone beyond the, "I want a big hard drive to store all of my music". It's just not practicle for me to store all of my music on a device. And even if I could, I wouldn't want to because it is just too much to sort through.

Which is why I limit myself to a good 20 albums at any given time.

 

[mackensteff]

1-1000 Tb

HMMMMMMMMM, somebody somewhere must have done a study, varing for IQ, what's the human brain rated at GB wise?

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=525801

 

[nemaslov]

i second the question... there's no point in being a size queen if you'll never ever ever listen to track #8748572, let alone even realize you have it.

Well then you are not the audience for having everything and that's cool

Right now if I feel likeing playing Blue Trane by John Coltrane..I got it. the entire Miles Davis Bitches Brew sessions, got it, If I want Cashmere by Zeppelin, I got it.....Fever Peggy Lee got it, Phantom Force Super Furry Animals, Jim Carroll Band, ? and the Mysterians, Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, Sex Pistols, All Beethoven 9 Symphines. My 18 CD Nat King Cole box is loaded. SMOG, Decemberists, every Dylan, Beatles, Kinks, Byrds, Clash, Bowie, Echo & the Bunnymen, Wilco, Yoko Ono, Kronos Quatert, Billy Bragg, Charlie Mingus, Doc Watson, Dr. John. It's all there.

I am at my studio, my CDs are home, I can choose whever I like.

We have days where it's all one artist or one genre or a Psychedelic playlist or Monty Python.

That's the point. We never know what we might be in the mood for... Kind of like MUSIC ON DEMAND!!

 

[nemaslov]

You might want the Gigantipod (up to 5 TB!) ;p
http://www.wiebetech.com/aprilfools/

=p

YES! CAN I GET IT ENGRAVED!!!

 

[johnmcboston]

good grief. At least let me buy the current model before I read about how soon it will be outdated.

 

[JGowan]

A quick sum reveals you have (very) roughly 2,000 cds. Assuming each one measures about 1cm across (a little less really), we are talking just less than 20m of shelf space. Of course you may have bought songs on itunes, in which case a cost figure would be equally alarming. The last option is illegal downloads... Apple doesn't need to keep increasing the size of its classic ipod since there are only a few people who are actually able to fill the new once with legal purchases. Otherwise they might be seen to be ecouraging illegal downloads on a huge scale.

Of course there is the arguement that people will start ripping music at a higher bit rate. But theres a limit to how much people can do that with the popularity of laptops these days and their limited space.

Some guy who YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHO HE IS, says he has a lot of music and you automatically go to eluding "you're a thief"?! BALLS-ZILLA!

I've got more music than he does and it is 100% legit.

Who at Macrumors.com made you the RIAA policeman? Begone with your thrill-kill accusations! 240GB of storage is incredible. This thread is about the technology not your idea that the music industry is getting ripped off. Geez-o-Pete, man!

 

[offwidafairies]

well then, they better be working on the iPod Solar Classic. The Dingo Outback Special Edition...

Ded set!

now ur talking!!!!!

 

[abrooks]

i kinda can't wait until HDs are big enough (like 1TB) for no one to really care about it's size, or even comment about it, as it will just hold everything...

As frightening as it may seem I don't think this will ever happen. Back in the day, computers ran with 128k of storage, I bet they thought that they'd never 1GB of storage.

But file sizes continue to grow as our ability to store it grows.

 

[slu]

A quick sum reveals you have (very) roughly 2,000 cds. Assuming each one measures about 1cm across (a little less really), we are talking just less than 20m of shelf space. Of course you may have bought songs on itunes, in which case a cost figure would be equally alarming. The last option is illegal downloads... Apple doesn't need to keep increasing the size of its classic ipod since there are only a few people who are actually able to fill the new once with legal purchases. Otherwise they might be seen to be ecouraging illegal downloads on a huge scale.

Of course there is the arguement that people will start ripping music at a higher bit rate. But theres a limit to how much people can do that with the popularity of laptops these days and their limited space.

This is so dumb it is unbelievable. You just assume he has illegal music. I have over 700 cds personally and know people with more than 1000. You do know that some people have big houses and can store cds? Some people, like me, store the cds in binder that takes up much less space. Some people also have a lot of money and can afford to buy as many cds or songs on iTunes as they want.

And you sort of answered your own dumb comment by saying music could be encoded at a higher bit rate, but then you back track by saying it would take too much space on a laptop. You ever hear of an external drive? Or perhaps some people have desktops? Or a NAS? Jebus.

And you didn't even consider that fact that some people store video and photos on their iPod and some use it as a portable drive for data.

By your logic, Apple should have never made an iPod bigger than 10 GB, since most people don't have that much content and anyone that does MUST be a pirate. Get a clue, please.

On topic, any increase in capacity is welcome by me.

EDIT: I see I should have read the thread before responding...but this made me too mad. Sorry this has already been covered.

 

[nemaslov]

Well back to my original post, having just got my new 160GB Classic, there is ONLY slightly more that 148 GB of actual open space after the software :-(

Almost 12GB of "software?"

 

[slu]

i second the question... there's no point in being a size queen if you'll never ever ever listen to track #8748572, let alone even realize you have it.

Why do you care? I really don't get why anyone would ever say that is too much space. It may be for you, but guess what? Apple makes iPods in sizes from 1GB to 160GB...there is one right for you!

I don't go around in nano threads saying "That's too little space. What if you want to listen to a record that is not on your nano at the time?" If I want to carry around 160 GB of content and only listen to one song over and over and Apple wants to sell me a device that holds 160 GB of content, what's it to you? It is my money.

 

[majordude]

Who at Macrumors.com made you the RIAA policeman?

Yes!

Nobody expects the RIAA Inquisition!

Come along! We happen to believe the following avatar is pirated from Sir Paul and other copyright holders.

This will get you the rack!

 

[dal20402]

This is so dumb it is unbelievable. You just assume he has illegal music. I have over 700 cds personally and know people with more than 1000. You do know that some people have big houses and can store cds? Some people, like me, store the cds in binder that takes up much less space. Some people also have a lot of money and can afford to buy as many cds or songs on iTunes as they want.

You don't even need a lot of money. Just patience.

My girlfriend and I have been regularly buying CDs for at least 15 years, just a couple a week. Between the two of us we now have over 1500 CDs. They fit on a single 12' long rack on one wall. I have a large fraction of that collection ripped losslessly and it is 240 GB. If I were to rip the whole thing losslessly, it would add up to about 450 GB. Every last one of those CDs was bought legitimately.

Lossless compression is unnecessary for an iPod, at least for me; I never listen anywhere where it's quiet enough I can hear the difference. But even at 256kbps, just the music I've ripped adds up to about 90 GB. Before my next long trip I am going to buy a 160 GB iPod Classic to replace my 60 GB 4G iPod, so I can have it all there. I'm a prime example of someone who needs big storage for music and is not a thief.

 

[Mgkwho]

Maybe they could work out a deal to have new classics ready for next fall! Sort of akin to their Intel deals.

-=|Mgkwho

 

[milo]

Well back to my original post, having just got my new 160GB Classic, there is ONLY slightly more that 148 GB of actual open space after the software :-(

Almost 12GB of "software?"

No, it's just because formatting a 160 gig device only ends up with about that, even with no software on it. HD capacity numbers are given unformatted, you never end up with the full amount. My 750 gig hard drive formatted to 698 gigs, about the same 7-8% lost space.

http://www.acronis.com/enterprise/resource/tips-tricks/2004/missing-megabytes.html

 

[Ha ze]

Not gonna lie, I see absolutely no need for a drive that large in a device such as the iPod, but fantastic for all of those that would want this.

I'd rather see more focus put on NAND and get those up to in size.

 

[johnmcboston]

I have over 700 cds personally and know people with more than 1000

Hey, I had close to 3,000 in my heyday...

 

[KindredMAC]

So why don't we use these in a laptop to save size?
Anyone know the speed on these?

 

[Doctor Q]

It's not good enough to measure the size of your current music/video/photo collection and then compare it to available iPod sizes. You should measure your collection's size and rate of growth, so you know how soon you'll need any given size of iPod storage.

Even if you acquire only one new song a week, you'll eventually outgrow any size of disk; it's just a matter of when. On the flipside, you don't need to buy an iPod that holds much more than you'll need during the expected lifespan of the device.

 

[MrCrowbar]

I don't like having too much music on my iPod. I recorded a lot of internet radio at random an put it in iTunes. There's pretty as much artists in the list as there are songs, many are there multiple times (typos...) so it takes me a while to get to the song I want on the iPod. An I only have a 6 Gig Nano... I wish there was a way to browse in playlists as you can in the library.

 

[sushi]

We never know what we might be in the mood for... Kind of like MUSIC ON DEMAND!!

Yes, that definitely is a nice feature of the larger capacity iPod Classic.

And now with larger sizes, you can also carry your favorite movies and home videos with you as well.

Sweet!

nemaslov that is a nice sized collection that you have. Mine pales in comparison at around a little over a thousand CDs. Although, these days I am purchasing more music and video from the iTMS. So convenient. Your record collection reminds me of a fellow that I knew many years ago. His entire basement was his record collection. I have no idea how many he had, but his collection was huge. We used to browse it like a fine wine collection and then choose what we wanted to listen to on his awesome stereo.

 

[Luis]

Well back to my original post, having just got my new 160GB Classic, there is ONLY slightly more that 148 GB of actual open space after the software :-(

Almost 12GB of "software?"

It is because vendors count 1 MB as 1000 bytes, and it really is 1 MB = 1024 bytes. You do the math.

 

[jacktiernan]

A quick sum reveals you have (very) roughly 2,000 cds. Assuming each one measures about 1cm across (a little less really), we are talking just less than 20m of shelf space. Of course you may have bought songs on itunes, in which case a cost figure would be equally alarming. The last option is illegal downloads... Apple doesn't need to keep increasing the size of its classic ipod since there are only a few people who are actually able to fill the new once with legal purchases. Otherwise they might be seen to be ecouraging illegal downloads on a huge scale.

Of course there is the arguement that people will start ripping music at a higher bit rate. But theres a limit to how much people can do that with the popularity of laptops these days and their limited space.

I am SO with you on this one. 2000 cds is more than $40,000 worth of music, and i simply do not believe that many people legitimately own that much music.

You are absolutely correct mate. Apple should not have to create massive HD ipods just for this tiny amount of people - or for the people who steal music (Which is a terrible thing to do, btw)

I have about 10gb of music in iTunes, only about 7-8gb that i actually listen to more than once a year. I know movies take up a lot of room, but really, who needs 150+ movies on their ipod at any one time???

 

[nsbio]

It seems to me - and I may be wrong - that portable hard drives with parts spinning at however many thousand rpm is a dead-end technology. Solid state technology is bound to pick up VERY soon and grow in capacity/speed/reliability to the point of making hard drive in portable devices obsolete. A little after that, there will be no need to spin/move anything at all. What I mean for now is that by 2009 there might not be as much need for 1.8'' 240Gb hard drives as there is for 160Gb 1.8'' hard drives today.

 

[0098386]

Dude do you even listen to all that music? Thats so much.

I do, yes.

I am SO with you on this one. 2000 cds is more than $40,000 worth of music, and i simply do not believe that many people legitimately own that much music.

You are absolutely correct mate. Apple should not have to create massive HD ipods just for this tiny amount of people - or for the people who steal music (Which is a terrible thing to do, btw)

Firstly - people DO have that much music. It may be a minority. But they DO exist. So they shouldn't increase the storage space on iPods... Who for? For people with Flash players to feel happier? More storage space is good all round. It means I can carry documents to and from university and work, I can keep a backup of my important documents on it. More space = more backups. I just cannot see why they would stop. Even when theres 100tb of space and nobody is reaching that limit with just music - if it costs the same and is in the same form factor then nothing is wrong with that at all.

I have about 10gb of music in iTunes, only about 7-8gb that i actually listen to more than once a year. I know movies take up a lot of room, but really, who needs 150+ movies on their ipod at any one time???

Me.

I travel home from the city, I don't sit down in the mornings and plan what I'll want to watch after a days worth of stress, or joy in 9 hours time. Which is why I want everything. There is no pre-selection involved.