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Toshiba Prototypes 120 GB 1.8
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I think this is a very bad presumption to make.
Sure there are people who illegally obtain their music.
But many folks out there own their music legitimately and have extensive CD collections (purchased or transferred from their vinyl collections) that they have imported into iTunes.
I am a friggen liar, Yes all stolen from you and several others here plus some Grateful Dead concert Jams (that's 100GB alone). In fact I did your sister while I was transfering all those tunes into my big friggen POD!
I guess other people must have different needs than you. Otherwise, why would Apple offer a product such as this? Why? Because there are folks out there who want this capability and are willing to pay for it.
and if I was trudging through the tundra in Alaska I would want that solar powered iPod with 500GB of tunes to keep me warm throughout my journey.
Yes this is getting very silly.
21 - James Bond Movies
10 - Star Trek films
6 - Star Wars films
3 - LotR films
2 - (soon to be 3) Rush Hours
4 - Period and biopics (Amadeus, Last of the Mohicans, The Aviator, Ray)
3 - stupid comedies (Wedding Crashers, Dodgeball, 40 yr old Virgin, etc)
10 - other enjoyable - I didn't say good - movies (Gladiator, Usual Suspects, etc)
That's 59 films at 1.1 GB each, so 65 GB. Plus nine seasons of the Simpsons on DVD (224 MB per episode, ~23 episodes per season... ~50 gigabytes?) 4 seasons of Futurama (22 GB), and suddenly, I don't have enough space for my music, let alone more video.
All of the above video can be purchased for well under $1000 if you're looking in Blockbuster's 4 for $20 bin, buying boxed sets online, or through the iTunes store.
Hell, I'd have to have my library on an iPod... my PowerBook can't hold it all... neither can my cube... and my tower would be bogged down by all of that...
10 - Star Trek films
6 - Star Wars films
3 - LotR films
2 - (soon to be 3) Rush Hours
4 - Period and biopics (Amadeus, Last of the Mohicans, The Aviator, Ray)
3 - stupid comedies (Wedding Crashers, Dodgeball, 40 yr old Virgin, etc)
10 - other enjoyable - I didn't say good - movies (Gladiator, Usual Suspects, etc)
That's 59 films at 1.1 GB each, so 65 GB. Plus nine seasons of the Simpsons on DVD (224 MB per episode, ~23 episodes per season... ~50 gigabytes?) 4 seasons of Futurama (22 GB), and suddenly, I don't have enough space for my music, let alone more video.
All of the above video can be purchased for well under $1000 if you're looking in Blockbuster's 4 for $20 bin, buying boxed sets online, or through the iTunes store.
Hell, I'd have to have my library on an iPod... my PowerBook can't hold it all... neither can my cube... and my tower would be bogged down by all of that...
Not everyone use's their iPods for "Music" I have a small internet home business
My set up
263GB iTune library, kept on a Lacie 500GB external drive
iMac with 167GB out of 250 being used (also backed up on the 500GB external drive) nightly
80GB iPod 5.5, where I back up my most important items weekly, and keep at a different location, even tho, I am pretty safe with a full back up on the external, my worry is theft.
I have a 160GB on its way, will be able to Back up,"almost" my whole home folder. I know there are "cheaper" solutions, but the ease and size of using an iPod as my emergency HD, can't be beat.
We also have 3 nanos and a shuffle in the family for music.
My set up
263GB iTune library, kept on a Lacie 500GB external drive
iMac with 167GB out of 250 being used (also backed up on the 500GB external drive) nightly
80GB iPod 5.5, where I back up my most important items weekly, and keep at a different location, even tho, I am pretty safe with a full back up on the external, my worry is theft.
I have a 160GB on its way, will be able to Back up,"almost" my whole home folder. I know there are "cheaper" solutions, but the ease and size of using an iPod as my emergency HD, can't be beat.
We also have 3 nanos and a shuffle in the family for music.
Oooh, I like it.
The solar panel could be an accessory to your backpack so you could charge your iPod while walking/hiking!
This is true, but it would take about 45-50 years (IIRC) for the memory to be 'used up'.
Nice
I'm considering ripping my DVD collection to iPod too. I started but gave up on Thunderball Bond and Spooks (series 1-4) are going to EAT my drive space.
Why are we still focusing on improving this technology? I mean, yes it's useful now, if they mass produced the second they got it out, but shouldn't technology that focuses on mobile devices concentrate more on enlarging more long lasting technology like flash, compact flash, and solid state? Laptops are going thin and iPods/other mp3 devices are everywhere; since people want lighter, quicker, and more space, wouldn't it make more sense to invest the R&D money into technologies that will be replacing this sort of thing?
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I think its great that Toshiba is creating bigger 1.8 HDD's.
Iv just got a new Macpro and the 160Gb HDD that came with it ( upgraded from 120Gb ) is pathetic.
I for one would want as big as HDD as posible in my iPod, i use my 30Gb pod for listerning to music in my car and connecting to my Tv at work when im on nights to watch my ripped movies.
Yes we would all like to have 1Tb nand drives but until then HDD's are still the way to go if its capacity you want.
I mean im just buying my sixth 1Tb HDD for my storage server for my media and files backup.
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Iv just got a new Macpro and the 160Gb HDD that came with it ( upgraded from 120Gb ) is pathetic.
I for one would want as big as HDD as posible in my iPod, i use my 30Gb pod for listerning to music in my car and connecting to my Tv at work when im on nights to watch my ripped movies.
Yes we would all like to have 1Tb nand drives but until then HDD's are still the way to go if its capacity you want.
I mean im just buying my sixth 1Tb HDD for my storage server for my media and files backup.
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Well i bought it to replace my wife's old PC laptop ( also to try and get her using OSX
) and with profiles for me, my wife and my daughter with pictures iTunes accounts files Etc i can see 160Gb HDD filling up quite quickly?As soon as a bigger and reasonably cost HDD comes out i will upgrade.
Thats Why.
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If you had decent headphones/IEMs you would dread 128k files and settle for nothing less than 256 VBR or 320. If you had 500+ cds you'd get tired of them getting scratched and always needing to replace them when all you want to do is discover new music rather than buy the same stuff again so you'd want lossless backups of all of them. You'd also still want the originals in case your hard drive fried (many ppl don't, a lot of these enormous libraries are owned by ppl who ebay everything they buy, thus spending a fraction of what itunes charges for downloads on cd-quality files - and that's not illegal). With my entire library in lossless, I can burn mixes for car journeys that will sound just like the original cds as opposed to itrips/bluetrips etc which sound toss. I can downconvert the files to any format i want for whatever legal purpose i want without worrying about anything cos i'll still have the lossless original.
I would settle for lossless at home, and 320 on the go, but Apple don't want me to do that, because then I'd be less likely to buy a bigger ipod when they release one. The 160GB will do for now, but it really only holds 500 albums (1250 at 320k). People can say that there's no difference til they're blue in the face and even if the naysayers were right (they're not - ask any professional in sound/music what they encode at), it wouldn't matter, cos there's enough of a market for it for apple to bother making the highest capacities available to those consumers one way or another. If there wasn't, they wouldn't have made an ipod classic at all. I know people will over 500 gigs of music. I know people with over 2000 cds. Not everybody utters that seemingly ubiquitous line of "I find I don't really listen to new music anymore, my ipod lets me listen to what I've had for years and that's all I really like." There's a ton of musos who always listen to new stuff as well as their old favourites and apple has taught them that they can now have both in their pocket at all times. We're not about to give that up.
I have a 7200 RPM 200GB HD ($200). And I think Hitachi is working on a fast 250 as well.
It's not lost space.
Computer systems uses the binary system to account for space.
1KB = 1024 bytes
1MB = 1024 KB
1GB = 1024 MB
While all hard drive maker's sales people uses 1000 notations (possibly to make it look bigger?):
1KB = approx 1000b ytes
1MB = approx 1000b KB
1GB = approx 1000b MB
160GB in sales jargon =
160 x 1000 x 1000 x 1000
Divide that by 1024^3 gives you the drive size in computer accounting. So 160GB ---> 149GB.
Wow, I can't imagine how pissed you are about the transistor...
Well, most transistor based devices double in complexity every 18 months, but that's just an industry rate as opposed to the "law" it's sometimes called. Samsung is quite proud of doubling flash capacity every 12 months, which is astounding.
There are limits though, not least of which is the physical size of the device and the number of manufacturing steps required to produce them. Bit densities in rotating media are pretty impressive.
I don't think it's going to be flash that replaces the hard drive, I think it's going to have to be something else.
That's not a fair measure-- the compression is too lossy.HMMMMMMMMM, somebody somewhere must have done a study, varing for IQ, what's the human brain rated at GB wise?
LOL! That's me!
I probably have 500 ripped (lossless) discs but find myself only listening to Genesis' Three Sides Live and Duke, Pink Floyd's Animals, Steely Dan's Katy Lied and Royal Scam, and some random early Rush songs.
I can't fill up a small 1st generation Shuffle!
Back in 1987 (est) I sold all my records and started to purchase CDs. I moved from NJ to San Francisco and didn't want to carry the weight. In SF there were plenty of Pawn shops and CDexchange places that kept me supplied. Over about 5 years I went from about 100 records to 0. 0 CDs to 250 (about a CD a week). I then moved to Georgia and my cost of living went way down from California but I was making the same. I've been in Georgia since '92 and in those 15 years I still by my CDs used ($5 and under). My collection is over 1,000. This year I got a Mac Pro, 2TB HD and have begun ripping at Apple Lossless. I'm at 250GB with my music, about 50GB with my ripped DVDs (my collection of DVDs is about 3000 disc, many Sci-Fi series also mostly purchased used), and a boat load of podcasts. My old iMac PPC has half of my collection at 128 for loading on my ipods. You can never have to much storage. I also get digital magazines which I never delete. I've been thinking about getting a labtop (never had one before) but the current still don't ring my bell, maybe when they can hold as much space as an ipod .
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LOL! That's me!
I probably have 500 ripped (lossless) discs but find myself only listening to Genesis' Three Sides Live and Duke, Pink Floyd's Animals, Steely Dan's Katy Lied and Royal Scam, and some random early Rush songs.
I can't fill up a small 1st generation Shuffle!
I suppose next you are going to tell us that when the demon is at your door, in the morning he won't be there no more....
It's not actually lost, it is the difference between marketing GB and programmer's GB. One marketing GB = 1 billion bytes = 1,000,000,000 bytes. One programmer's GB = 1024 x 1024 x 1024 bytes = about 1,073,000,000 bytes. The iPod has 160 marketing GBs, that is about 148 programmer's GB.