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fpnc said:
That hasn't been my experience when comparing the original CDs to files that I've encoded in AAC at 128kbps. I do notice some loss in what I'd call the clarity or transparency in distant background sounds, but the bass line is nearly unaffected.

One thing that can make the bass seem weak is a simple change in the volume level. You really need to pay close attention to the relative volume levels when comparing two different audio sources. Very slight differences (which can have nothing to do with the encoding) can cause pretty significant changes in the perceived quality of the material. For most people if you turn the volume up even slightly they will say that the bass sounds "better." Similarly, if you turn the volume down, well, you get the idea. That's one reason loudness controls exist.

In fact, I'm not certain that you can accurately compare two different audio sources that may contain volume output changes without using instruments to calibrate the average sound levels. You can try to do it by ear alone but that can be difficult and error prone. The other option would be to run both copies of the music through a high-quality normalization function. But even normalization can introduce problems if it isn't done correctly (normalizing to a single peak sample can make a slight mismatch worse that it was to begin with).

In any case, what sounds good or bad to you is the only important issue and the technical details are unimportant for most. After all, beauty __is__ in the ear of the beholder. Thus, if you are happy with your "solution" that is all that matters.
I don't encode CDs, but I do use 128Kbps AAC for all files I encode (usually because I converted them from some other format). I can't tell any difference between the AAC and the original AIFF, either on my iPod or my iMac's speakers.
 
sushi said:
Sounds great!

It would be nice to see these drives in some PC laptops -- even two of them! It would be nice to have the extra storage in a small form factor.

Sushi
IBM X40 uses 40GB 1.8" drives.
 
With that capacity, more people might consider using the Apple Lossless audio format for their CD's. You could get much better audio quality with room to store the larger files.
 
ChrisFromCanada said:
Prediction:

it will be able to connect directly to DV video cameras, record TV shows, and output video, but, will not have a built in color screen.

Think about it you record to it to the camera, bring it home and edit right to the iPod HD save it then connect it to a TV for presentations. Plus you can use it as a DVR!

I sure hope so. I've got some divx movies at work that I've been loading on my ipod so I can take them home to copy to my powerbook and then burn them onto CDs so I can view them on my DVD player. Wouldn't it be nice if i could just plug the ipod into the TV thereby cutting out several steps in that process. With 60 gigs this scenario becomes closer to being feasible. One could store almost 100 700mb movies.

next step: the Apple iFilms Movie Store! One can hope.. Although didn't Jobs throw cold water on the ipod-video idea? Dininformation, maybe?
 
I bought the 30GB the day it came out last year, and I told myself I would only replace it when it was doubled. I have enough music -- music that I could actually want to hear at any given moment -- to fill up a 60GB iPod as it is. To everyone who says it's too big, I know there are plenty of people like me out there who look at their iPod as an archive, not just a "favorites of the week" device. People who DJ with them, for example, or who go to college and don't want to bring 500 CDs with them. I can't wait for the 60GB, and I'll be cheeky and say I wish it were going to be even bigger.

What I AM worried about, however, is a dramatic change to form factor and/or versatility. I read somewhere that Jobs said the iPod is a music player and will stay a music player, and I hope he meant that. Using it as an external hard drive is great, I've transferred photos and design work on it, but as far as video out and all that stuff... I dread to see the beautifully simple iPod loaded with additional output jacks and buttons. I also hope they don't switch to the iPod Mini-style scroll wheel, as has been rumoured before.

As far as I'm concerned, the major changes I'd like to see is in iPod software. Here's what I want:

1. Variable text size -- I'm sick of so many artist, song, and album titles being cut off. If the 'Contacts' and 'Notes' sections can support smaller text, so should the menus.

2. More song info available. Some people enjoy making full use of iTunes' detailed tagging system, entering in composer and comments, etc. I love noting the date of a recording, and I wish that all that info on my MP3s could be viewed with the iPod.

3. I'm sure this is a fantasy, but I've always wished that the iPod could crossfade tracks, and I mean PROPERLY, not like iTunes which merely brings the level of one track down and then brings the next one up before it's finished. I want a track to be able to start a few seconds before the end of the previous track, actually overlapping, with NO change in volume (or at least close enough to eliminate gaps between tracks that crossfade on CD -- I know you can rip them as one track, but come on, this often isn't practical)

Those are the main things. There are many other little features I wish were included, but if the above three came to be then the iPod would be even more perfect.

cv
 
cgmpowers said:
I'll break down and buy the 60 GB iPod because my current one is the 30 GB. I have, as of this morning, 79.06 GB iTunes library. I still have about 30 to 40 CDs of my wife's to rip and store into iTunes. Currently, I have 19,884 songs (that includes a handful of audiobooks & about 500 sound effect mp3s). That's still fairly large.

Christopher

19,884 Songs/Audiobooks/Etc.
79.06 GB
49.2 days of music.
73 Genres
1,557 Artists
1,668 Albums

Wow respect! i only have 36gb and i was waiting to replace my 30gb if they did a 60!

Viv
 
60 gigs is awesome. I just wish they could meet the demands for the products they have now. This endless race for bigger is nice but it is tiring waiting for things supposedly on the shelf today.
 
Cool...always nice to see new iPod's coming up the line.

I'm still more than happy with my 2nd Gen 10GB iPod and still have about a year left of the AppleCare warranty left and don't plan to upgrade by then. But at the rate the hard drive upgrades are going 40 GB should be about mid or even low end by then. More hard drive space is always welcome.
 
okay great and all...

60 gigs... fantastic. What about people like me who don't have the money to own hundreds upon hundreds of CDS or the massive iPod to hold them?

I, unlike every other mac-follower, have never owned an iPod. I've wanted one since they first appeared, but, like I said, I have no money. Finally now I'm in a position to buy one and want to wait for the 4th Generation iPod. The problem? Apple Insider said that Apple wont ship new iPods until September due to these 60 Gig drives. This is an incredible annoyance. For someone who has been waiting almost three years to buy an iPod, the extra four months are incomprehensably long.

Hearing report after report that the 4th Gen iPod would be released at WWDC and knowing Apple's tendency to say "You can buy one today!" for a few of their products, I was hoping I could score myself an iPod on June 28th.

Maybe they'll just delay shipping on a 60 Gig model, but I doubt that.

-Clive
 
Clive At Five said:
I, unlike every other mac-follower, have never owned an iPod. I've wanted one since they first appeared, but, like I said, I have no money. Finally now I'm in a position to buy one and want to wait for the 4th Generation iPod. The problem? Apple Insider said that Apple wont ship new iPods until September due to these 60 Gig drives. This is an incredible annoyance. For someone who has been waiting almost three years to buy an iPod, the extra four months are incomprehensably long.
-Clive

what's wrong with the 3rd gen iPod? or the 2nd gen for that matter? they are both great products. if you don't need the extra storage size but are itchin' to own an iPod then what's holding you up?

just curious.

i just got the new 15" 1.5GHz PB w/ 40GB iPod, but i haven't opened the iPod yet. (i've had it for almost three weeks...)
 
capabilities

I never said I couldn't use the capabilities of a 4th gen iPod. Video... color screen (+ more). If I've waited this long, I'm not going to skimp on features. I'd like an iPod that isn't a year or more old. After saving up the money, I'm not going to cheat myself out of all the innovations that everyone else will have access to.

-Clive
 
Why wait for the next gen? Because, like the dockable iPods can use the voice recorders, play Apple Lossless and other things that the old ones can't, the next gen iPods will have features upon release or afterwards that the old ones don't.
 
not fast enough, sushi

sushi said:
It would be nice to see these drives in some PC laptops -- even two of them! It would be nice to have the extra storage in a small form factor.
You would NOT want to see these drives in laptops. While they serve up music quite handily, the are no where near as powerful as the typical 5400 RPM Harddrives in laptops. I don't know how fast they are, but I know they couldn't be of any use in laptops.
 
Clive At Five said:
Maybe they'll just delay shipping on a 60 Gig model, but I doubt that.

-Clive

Clive, I feel for you and don't take this the wrong way but I hope you are completely, utterly, and totally dead wrong. ;) I'm going on a cross country trip from MN to PA starting July 5th. I pray Jobs makes the announcement right then and there so I can enjoy muy music on the road. :cool:
 
SiliconAddict said:
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. I have 38GB of tunes. Way too close to the max 40GB the high end iPod holds. Bring this on. There have been two things I've been waiting on.

1. G5 PowerBook
2. 50GB iPod.


If they only bring out #2 this year I'm happy.

WOOT. First post!

You said "#2" uh huh huh huh...
 
stoid said:
I wouldn't say 'never'. Technology is always advancing, always getting better, faster, smaller, (and hotter). It may not be in the next revision, but I'd wager that at some point in the not terribly distant future these smaller drive will start appearing in laptops. Remember though that these drives are even MORE expensive than the 2.5 inch drives that laptops currently house, so for right now it's cost prohibitive. It would be awesome if Apple would RAID together two 40GB drives and you'd have a ultra fast 80GB internal drive at about the same physical size as current laptop HDs!

You could already try out how fast that would be, just build a RAID out of two iPods. This guy has build RAIDs with floppies and smart media cards:
http://ohlssonvox.8k.com/fdd_raid.htm
 
JGowan said:
What is "Home on the Road"?

If he's talking about what I think he's talking about its.....

somewhat officially called "Home on the iPod"

You can take your iPod to another Mac, plug it in, and the Mac would log onto your home directory as if it was part of that computer. It was a rumored feature of Panther that never did make it to the gold code. Pure guess but I think Apple may have gotten cold feet at the though of people losing data if their iPod died that and they had bigger fish to fry with Panther.
Maybe Tiger will see this feature actually be released?
 
JGowan said:
You would NOT want to see these drives in laptops. While they serve up music quick handily, the are no where near as powerful as the typical 5400 RPM Harddrives in laptops. I don't know how fast they are, but I know they could be of any use in laptops.

If anyone is interested, the 40gb toshiba drive runs at 4,200 rpm has a 15ms seek time.

http://sdd.toshiba.com/cda/main.asp...000005c1/8182000007fa000000010000659c00001aae

update: I believe some Sony VAIO subnotebooks are using this drive.
 
sinisterdesign said:
yup yup. i've been holding out for the next rev to update my rev2 20GB. i've been trying to weed through my iTunes for crappy songs that i just don't listen to, but it's finally surpassed my iPod's capacity. :(

60GB should hold me for a while!

i know people use it as a hard drive, but wouldn't it be nice to be able to install Norton & boot from it to repair a wonky startup drive? just a thought. but that's coming from someone that only stores contacts & calendar entries on it so far.

You already can. Connect your iPod, mount it by allowing it to act as a firewire HD, install OS X on it, and choose it as your boot volume. It's just another HD to the Mac. Install whatever you want on it. BOOM! You're done.
 
SiliconAddict said:
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. I have 38GB of tunes. Way too close to the max 40GB the high end iPod holds. Bring this on. There have been two things I've been waiting on.

1. G5 PowerBook
2. 50GB iPod.


If they only bring out #2 this year I'm happy.

WOOT. First post!

I have a feeling that someone is telling fibs. If you had an iPod, or any common sense, you'd know that the actual formatted capacity of Hard Drives are less than the quoted amounts. Therefore, a 40GB iPod only holds 37.25GB of Data...

therefore, how can you hold 38GB of tunes on there?

(I know you might manually manage your song list, but that is not what you said. and how would you decide on which .75GB of music to leave behind. If that was the case, your tunes would already exceed the capacity of your ipod)

I don't know. Your comment really riled me up for its obvious inaccuracies.

PS. does anyone actually 'need' that much capacity for music? even a recent study showed that 1,000 songs is optimal for most people.
 
iChan said:
I have a feeling that someone is telling fibs. If you had an iPod, or any common sense, you'd know that the actual formatted capacity of Hard Drives are less than the quoted amounts. Therefore, a 40GB iPod only holds 37.25GB of Data...

therefore, how can you hold 38GB of tunes on there?

I don't have an iPod. Hence the reason I've been waiting. Nowhere in my post did I ever claim that I had an iPod. And yes I'm aware that a hard drive is never the actual amount advertised. I never did the figures. I always assumed it was at least above or dang close to the 38GB range. Its a moot point anyways. I have been holding off buying an iPod since I converted my CD's last October when iTunes for Windows was released.

As for your optimal comment. *Sighs* The iPod is a successful product for numerous reason. One of the bigger ones is that we can carry not part but all of our songs with us. I refuse to accept this optimal BS. I want all my music with me. If I'm in the mood for something out of the norm I don't want to have to drag out my laptop to get ahold of a dang track. Its all or nothing as far as I'm concerned.
 
Mini Drives In PowerBooks

A very bad idea. Hasn't anyone noticed how slow these drives are compared to the current laptop ones? They will never be used in the Powerbooks as they simply cannot spin as fast as the larger drives (which means slower access).
 
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