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I might be in the minority here, but I actually like the Touch Bar. I don't use it often, but when I do use it, it's pleasant to look at and pretty easy to use. I just wish Apple did more with it and expanded capacity as time went by, and that it was more sensitive to touch (for me, I have to kind of press on it a bit harder to make it work).

It's a nice little addition and it makes my Mac look a bit more "colorful".
 
If it’s gonna happens it’ll be the real degrade: Touch Bar adapts for each app and it’s great, where F keys are a just gimmick.
Indeed, Apple needs to incorporate small in display in each keyboard key. Thus the need of the keyboard for different language on physical level will be eliminated and will be easy to adapt for each country like it’s now in iPhones and iPads.
 
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I quite like the touchbar but I’d like as well as a proper row of functions keys and of course an escape. Why not be wild and throw in a delete key as well and I will be a very happy chappie. Still surprised we’ve not seen a 16 refresh, will the 2019 carry on through till the bitter end of the Intel models?
 
UGHHH!!! I waited so long to upgrade from my 2010 MacBook Pro. When they finally ditched the butterfly mechanism, I took the plunge and ordered the new 2020. If the Touch Bar gets removed and MagSafe charging gets added back, I’m going to be so upset with myself for not just waiting another year lol.
What’s the problem with butterfly key?
Have you ever used it? Or just reading comments on the forums?
I’ve been using the butterfly keyboard since it’s release date: no fails, no issues. It’s the best keyboard where short key travel let you type easily without the need to kick hard those stone aged keys.
Best keyboard ever so far, period!
 
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Good riddance! It's such a pain to change the volume with the touch bar. It changes locations depending on what app you have open, and even when it hasn't moved you can't just tap the volume up or to down. So annoying.

I really hope they kill the touchbar!

If they want to put little LCD screens on the top row of keys, that's fine. I just want my volume to be controlled by real buttons in the same place!
 
What could possibly be the purpose behind that? There is nothing you can't do with a USB-C port. It's not like they're going to add FireWire. "More ports" could only be things like HDMI which is terribly unnecessary.
Visit your local university and see their computer lab and lecture hall. See what they use. USB-C and thunderbol displays?

Buy an Arduino, and try to plug it into your MacBook.
 
Thank goodness.

However, what I would really like to see though are more ports return to the MBP. Late 2015 is still the last great MacBook Pro.
With you on that, still rocking a 2015 15" rMBP, and still waiting for a worthy replacement that is actually an improvement. Looks like it's finally happening!!! Touch bar gone, ports back, magsafe back, OMG, OMG, OMG!!! What is going on at Apple, somehow they decided to read all their feedback emails or something???
 
Wii U proved that a 2nd screen where you have to look down and take your eyes off the main screen is rather awkward. And worse it adds a significant extra cost. That was always working against the touchbar.

Also to have the rest of your Mac lineup without a touchbar worked against the touchbar as well. That has also been proven in the videogame console world to not work well either because developers tend to develop for the lowest common denominator aka never fully embrace unique hardware aspects.

3rd parties tended to not take the time to make great games for the Wii using the motion controls. instead they shoe horned those controls onto existing designs. SAme with Wii U. Kinect on the Xbox One was taken out after a year because of the same reasons above. It added extra cost and developers were going to put resources into making great use of it.

You see it on the AppleTV remote too unfortunately. Specifically the touchpad. A lot of apps only lazily map dpad controls to it and don't use it properly like a good ATV app does. YTTV, for example, you shouldbe nicely scroll down in the guide but nope. Sliding your thumb u/d/l/r only acts like a dpad u/d/l/r press.
 
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There are two types of people: people who look at their keyboard and people who don't.

I look at my screen, not a keyboard, but with the Touch Bar I forced to look at the keyboard not only to find the right button on TB, but also figure out what did I just accidentally touched that ruined my work. It's so annoying...
 
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No it's NOT fine they did it on unsuspecting customers in need of a new MBP. We're not paying through our nose to beta test wonky features for Apple. This isn't a "learning case study". They deserve to be ROASTED for this gross failure and inconvenience they've caused their Mac users.
That logic partially works, but that's part of the risk of being an early adopter or buying something you don't really want. Had enough people realized how much of a gimmick it is and not bought them after the first version, I'm sure Apple would have walked back that decision two years ago. You vote with your wallets people, but obviously not everyone understands that.

I'm still rocking a 2011 MacBook Pro because I absolutely hated the butterfly keyboard and still hate the Touch Bar. Even though I have never owned a 2016-2020 MBP, I worked at an authorized retail store where I was using them every single day 2016-2017. I realized the first day we unboxed them and starting using them how much of a gimmick it is. I should have gotten a 2015, but I wasn't able to get one at the time.
 
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I don't mind the touch bar if it was an addition but not in place of the physical keyboards. the touch bar was gimmicky at its best.
 
Why not just touchbuttons, you know, like keyboard buttons that have OLED screens on them so that they are reprogrammable (and maybe a long one like the spacebar that can accomodate touch and slide, if anyone even does that)?
 
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No tactile feedback, and having to look away from the screen you work on to hunt and peck the Touch Bar ‘key’.

That’s bad (workflow) design.
 
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Looking forward to it being replaced with something better, like an entire keyboard with programable displays on each key.
 
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