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iPod touch Touch CAPACITY - Why Doesn't Anyone CARE?

Tones2 said:
Remember, Apple USED to make 120 & 160 iPods exclusively as a key selling point before the Touches came out, so SOMEBODY must have wanted this!

Tony
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No doubt that there are some people who want this. The key is being able to provide it in a way that will make Apple money. The iPod classics have a harddrive in them and this kind of storage is much cheaper than flash storage.

I think that there are 2 possibilities on why Apple hasn't released a 128GB iPod Touch.

1. They would have to raise the price of the 128GB iPod Touch to a point where Apple believes that not many people would buy them.

2. Keep the sale price of the iPod Touch at $399, however, it would so severely cut into the margins that it is not worth it.
 
So if they release a 128gb iPod touch for $599, would you buy it?

There's a whole socioeconomic factor of price vs demand. For the general consumer (as pointed out by the plethora releases of iPods within a certain rage of price), $399 seems to be the maximum price people would pay for an MP3 Player without feeling that they're getting ripped off. If Apple sold a 128gb iPod touch (thicker than the current of course), you can bet your ass it would be a minimum of $499. With a 500 dollar maximum the general population would develop an economic feel that the iPod touch is too expensive, even though there are cheaper priced ones at the lower end.

Don't forget, Apple is targeting the general audience for the maximum profit. If the 8GB iPod touch was still $199, then the general consumer would rather pay the extra $50 and nobody would get a 8GB iPod nano. They format prices and memory ranges to set up the maximum profit.

Although the iPod Classic is one of the worst selling iPods these days, they are still providing the iPod classic as a way to appeal to those with big libraries. But the amount of people with big libraries are still microscopic compare to the general populous.

Apple analysts know what they're doing. They learned their lesson about cost from the first iPhone. Until memory modules become cheaper, they can't expand on the memory unit.

Plus, if it does go down next year, then they'll have one more thing to offer.
 
People care. Obviously, you do.

The problem is that there aren't enough of them, combined with the other factors, to form a compelling business case at this point.
 
Well, honestly, 16GB of space on my iPhone is more than enough. I don't think you'll have enough time to listen to all the music and watch all the movies that 64 GB can contain. So I'd rather have my own little playlists with the things that I like to listen to the most on the go, rather than my whole library.
 
If I added every song, podcast, and video in my iTunes to my iPod I would still have 20+ GB left over in the 64GB version.
 
I love how people with small libraries just list that they have small libraries such that that's somehow relevant to the argument that others with large libraries might want more capacity.:rolleyes:

Tony
 
Isn't next year the 10th anniversary of the original iPod? I think it'd actually be a cool time to finally phase out the classic line, but only if the price on flash memory comes down to where they could actually sell a 128GB Touch at a price point less than $500.

If Apple really didn't care about users like us who need higher capacity they probably would have killed off the classic anyway and limited the Touch and iPad at 32GB to match the iPhone's capacity, but they didn't...so I honestly believe that we'll have a higher end Touch within the next two years, and hopefully a 64GB iPhone as well.
 
Totally agreed! If I could get a Terrabyte iPod, that would start to be a reasonable amount of storage. There are lots of things that an iPod could be used for if it actually had memory - like a small device to download your Raw images to from your Nikon in the field while on vacation. 64 Gigs is just one roll of RAW pictures - just to put the pathetic amount on the iPod Touch into perspective. And having to "manage" my library is stupid. I realize most Apple users don't have much to do, but the 95% of people who actually own iPods are Windows users and dealing with iTunes as little as possible is the key to happiness and time management. I remember when Apple products came with so much memory you would go WTF! and be happy later on that it did. Now it's the opposite.
 
I'll be getting a 32GB because of the cost.

Would have liked a 64GB though, but I just can't afford an extra $100 just to make it so I have to sync less often.
 
Black Belt said:
Totally agreed! If I could get a Terrabyte iPod, that would start to be a reasonable amount of storage. There are lots of things that an iPod could be used for if it actually had memory - like a small device to download your Raw images to from your Nikon in the field while on vacation. 64 Gigs is just one roll of RAW pictures - just to put the pathetic amount on the iPod Touch into perspective. And having to "manage" my library is stupid. I realize most Apple users don't have much to do, but the 95% of people who actually own iPods are Windows users and dealing with iTunes as little as possible is the key to happiness and time management. I remember when Apple products came with so much memory you would go WTF! and be happy later on that it did. Now it's the opposite.
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Yeah, I want a terrabyte iPHONE!

Tony
 
Tones2 said:
I love how people with small libraries just list that they have small libraries such that that's somehow relevant to the argument that others with large libraries might want more capacity.
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That's not an argument, it's just something you want. We get that you want it, but there's good reasons why it's not offered, so, uh, lmao
 
Black Belt said:
64 Gigs is just one roll of RAW pictures - just to put the pathetic amount on the iPod Touch into perspective
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Yes, if you want the iPod to hold a ton of RAW pictures then it looks like it has awfully small storage. Also, I can't get my drinking glass to hold a swimming pool's worth of water. What's up with that?
 
Carouser said:
Yes, if you want the iPod to hold a ton of RAW pictures then it looks like it has awfully small storage. Also, I can't get my drinking glass to hold a swimming pool's worth of water. What's up with that?
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My comparison has a useful scenario, yours does not. I guess I have to point out stupid things like that in this forum.
 
This is why I was really hoping for a price drop on the touch and/or a price drop on the classic. I'm tired of having -10GB of space available on my 16GB G2 Touch. I really wanted to get something new with more space and I was hoping for a lower price also. I realize the form factors are different but when I can find a 128GB 2.5" SSD drive for ~$220 and a 1TB 2.5" HD for ~$120 I find it hard to believe that they still need to charge us $250 for a 160GB classic and $300 for a 32GB touch. I mean really? Come on.. (especially the classic)

If I'm off base here I'd love to hear it. Would probably help me feel better. Right now I'm tooling around ebay looking for a used 6th gen classic, but I am concerned about the battery life in these used ipods.
 
Tones2 said:
But given that most people can put 32GB on most phones in some way, and that all smart phones have music players, what's the market for a 64GB music player?
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Some people don't want or need to pay a contract fee for a music player. Duh?

I'm sure there are a small percentage of music lovers without phones, but man, the market for something like an iPod Touch is really going to dwindle soon if they don't increase capacity.
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I don't think so. The iPod touch has been a big seller for a number of quarters now.

Tones2 said:
You must be young. Us older people have a LOT more music / videos. My library is like 250GB+, about which 120GB is music and the rest video. Most people I know have similar libraries. It's definitely NOT about having the top model - it's about what best my library will fit into.
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Apple, like any other company without a monopoly on a high-end market, does not cater to outliers with large libraries like you.

Tones2 said:
This is a really tired old argument.:rolleyes: Some of us don't want to have to PRE-DECIDE what we want to listen to each day.
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This is a pretty tired argument too, you know. Deal with the inconvenience, or just have your entire day ruined because you couldn't listen to that one Johnny Cash song you didn't have room for on your 160 GB iPod. Perhaps some slow violin music would be more appropriate.

Tones2 said:
I love how people with small libraries just list that they have small libraries such that that's somehow relevant to the argument that others with large libraries might want more capacity.:rolleyes:
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I love how people with large libraries just list that they have large libraries such that it's somehow relevant to the argument that others with small libraries might not want more capacity. :rolleyes:

If you think about the economics of the situation it makes more sense.
 
Black Belt said:
My comparison has a useful scenario, yours does not. I guess I have to point out stupid things like that in this forum.
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You're right, the Apple design squad should have said 'hey some shadetree photographer can't handle his memory properly when he takes a trip, let's not release the iPod unless you can use it as a place to dump RAW images', totally reasonable.
 
I've been disappointed that apple has not upped the capacity of the touches or phones this year. I think that the lowest end touch is way to expensive, and I also believe that the nanos are overpriced. So with that I guess it would have to be more expensive and that would be worse as well, so I want lower, if not the same, prices for much larger capacity. So yes, I want it but I guess we just have to wait and see and hope.
 
jmor said:
I've been disappointed that apple has not upped the capacity of the touches or phones this year. I think that the lowest end touch is way to expensive, and I also believe that the nanos are overpriced. So with that I guess it would have to be more expensive and that would be worse as well, so I want lower, if not the same, prices for much larger capacity. So yes, I want it but I guess we just have to wait and see and hope.
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Flash memory is currently running at high prices. Even Apple can't do anything to change this.
 
A terabyte worth of flash? Are you people kidding me?

You guys must have no grasp of where technology is at in its current form. SSDs aren't even up to 600GB capacity yet. Laptop HDDs just hit 1TB a little while ago.

To everyone who wants a 128GB iPod touch/iPhone, please send emails to Apple directly. Let them know that demand for this device is real!
 
Tones2 said:
But given that most people can put 32GB on most phones in some way, and that all smart phones have music players, what's the market for a 64GB music player? It's not that much different to warrant carrying around yet another device. Those with large libraries would still have to "manage" those libraries - the main advantage of having large capacities is not to have to do that. Those with smaller libaries can probably just use their phone.

I'm sure there are a small percentage of music lovers without phones, but man, the market for something like an iPod Touch is really going to dwindle soon if they don't increase capacity.

Tony
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I personally prefer carrying around my phone and iPod. I don't wanna kill my phones battery by listening to music on it all day, I use my phone to text, surf the web and make quick calls. Even if I had an iPhone I would still only use it as a phone and keep music on it only as a backup for when my iPod runs out of battery. It's just one more device, no big deal to me.

Then again I'm sure a lot of your opinions differ from mine. Just thought I'd put my opinion out there.
 
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