Touch ID Is NOT Going Away

[Newtons Apple]

isnt the touch id behind the phone? or integrated in the screen itself?

It is not there, period.
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Sunglasses with polarized lenses would almost assuredly block more infrared light from passing through the lenses, reaching the eyes and getting additional measurement points.
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You guys really don't understand the unlock in pocket concept. It's not about unlocking in your pocket. Obviously???

It's about the fact that with Touch ID the device is unlocked before you can physically view the display with your eyes, if you pull it out of your pocket pressing the home button while bringing it up. With facial recognition it's impossible to do this, thus you rely on the speed of Face ID unlocking after the phone is perfectly viewable to your face. The question is how fast this will work of course and how well it will work at oblique angles. There's no reason to discuss it because Apple will show this in several weeks time, but the point remains.

Anyway, I think yourself and some others mistakenly believe that the infrared sensors for facial recognition will just be running all the time. They of course cannot for battery efficiency. In a perfect world they would run constantly and the phone would instantly lock if your face was out of the frame (unless you gave a time-delayed permission to another user, or added their face).

You are just whipping yourself into a tizzy over something that is done, past tense. You will either like it or not and always have the choice if you want to buy. BUT, no matter how much complaining, it is what it is.

 

[ForumChick]

Knowing what will happen next month, you all buy it regardless.

 

[nviz22]

I think we've been interpreting all these new rumors incorrectly and I don't think Touch ID is going away...kinda.

So my biggest issues with using my face to unlock the new iPhone were -

1) Someone can use a picture of me to unlock it...well, luckily from all the rumors we understand it's three dimensional and needs your actual face (not a picture) to unlock.

2) I can't unlock my iPhone at night...from software leaks it looks like the infrared sensor(s) will be able to address that.

3) I can't unlock my phone while it's laying on my desk...from additional software leaks it looks like it will be able to scan your face while you're sitting at a desk and the phone is on a flat surface.

4) What if I just want to look my phone without unlocking it? (See explanation below)

5) Using ApplePay will be ridiculous...well, not really....

What I think is going to happen is the face unlocking method will be he ONLY way to unlock your iPhone. There won't be any fingerprint scanning. I believe there will be a virtual home button that has to be pressed using your finger, which will then trigger the facial recognition.

So if you pick up your phone and look at it (without touching the virtual home button) the phone will not unlock. I also think this virtual home button will have haptic feedback so it feels like the home buttons on the newest iPhones.

Well, that's all I've got. Technically Touch ID is gone, but I think we'll still be making the same "motions" that we currently use. to unlock our phones and use Apple Pay.

The only issue could be when using sunglasses/wearing hats/etc...but I'll leave hat up to Apple to figure out.

Touch ID can go away and Apple will not miss a beat with its iPhone.

1. Apple isn't Samsung and probably developed its tech a bit further since it doesn't deal with fragmentation nor an exploding Note 7 issue.

2. Infrared will take care of that, if not people can use their standard 4 digit pin or multi digit passwords.

3. That will be taken care of by the camera sensor Apple is rumored to include.

4. There could be an always on display included for all we know, so that means controlling music and looking at notifications without going into the actual apps. Samsung did a solid job of that with their AOD on the S8/S8+.

5. Using Apple Pay will be fine even if Touch ID is preferred. I used Samsung Pay with an Iris Scanner on my old S8+ quite often.

If Touch ID is gone and Face ID is completely better and addresses each of these "issues" then I won't miss Touch ID on an iPhone 8 since I have Touch ID on my iPad.

 

[ghsDUDE]

Touch ID can go away and Apple will not miss a beat with its iPhone.

1. Apple isn't Samsung and probably developed its tech a bit further since it doesn't deal with fragmentation nor an exploding Note 7 issue.

2. Infrared will take care of that, if not people can use their standard 4 digit pin or multi digit passwords.

3. That will be taken care of by the camera sensor Apple is rumored to include.

4. There could be an always on display included for all we know, so that means controlling music and looking at notifications without going into the actual apps. Samsung did a solid job of that with their AOD on the S8/S8+.

5. Using Apple Pay will be fine even if Touch ID is preferred. I used Samsung Pay with an Iris Scanner on my old S8+ quite often.

If Touch ID is gone and Face ID is completely better and addresses each of these "issues" then I won't miss Touch ID on an iPhone 8 since I have Touch ID on my iPad.

You obviously didn't read my post.

I said it's technically going away - but unlocking the phone will function the same way it always has.

 

[spac3duck]

From a security point of view, the more layers of protection (Defence in Depth) the better. Thus, I would be happy for Apple to incorporate iris authentication in addition to the current touchID interface.

Who said they had to remove anything for something else? In the past, they shifted from 4 pin passwords to 6 pin with an iOS update, then they added touchID, improved upon the touchID sensor in the latest devices, so why not add another security method into the device?

[doublepost=1503754704][/doublepost]An interesting read if you're into security related stuff.

 

[big samm]

I know in ios 11 you can disable touch id, so that it won’t work even if someone tries to force you unlocking the device, will something like that be in place for face id recognition?

 

[akash.nu]

All the use cases and concerns about Face ID in this thread are way too basic. We can be certain that Apple has tested all that.

 

[spac3duck]

All the use cases and concerns about Face ID in this thread are way too basic. We can be certain that Apple has tested all that.

Face or Iris? Two diff types of authentication.

 

[akash.nu]

Face or Iris? Two diff types of authentication.

Face. There's no Irish authentication on iPhone 8.