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Just remembering the good old days when Jobs insisted that everything interoperate, except for very limited product transitions. Now it is such a hodgepodge that you have to be in Mensa to understand what works with what.
And yet Android is getting better while apple is getting worse. Greed is at the center.
 
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When the new touchId keyboard does become available it is going to be a tough decision. The touchId would be great since I use my M1 MacBook Air docked in clamshell mode most of the time. The problem is that the new keyboard uses the awful up-down arrow key layout. I much prefer the traditional t-shape arrow key layout and I use the arrow keys much more than I do the touchId.

Not sure what I’ll do when they become available.
Get the full expanded keyboard with number pad. That one has the traditional arrow keys.
 
Isn’t iPad running iOS ? A more featured version of course , but still iOS. Isn’t that the reason that updates on iOS and iPadOS is the same version ?
So how can iOS handle a more sophisticated software that the keyboard needs , like let’s say a library from MacOS.
 
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Just remembering the good old days when Jobs insisted that everything interoperate, except for very limited product transitions. Now it is such a hodgepodge that you have to be in Mensa to understand what works with what.
The hint of things to come was the naming of "The New iPad". They've never recovered. :)
It's like one hand doesn't know what all of the other hands are doing. Sounds like where I work.
If it has a secure enclave, and it is something that can use a keyboard (like probably not the watch) it should just work. Although, it will be interesting to see what actually gets transmitted through the air from the keyboard for fingerprint information. I'm sure it is, but how secure is that?
 
I just read the base iMac doesn’t come with the Touch ID keyboard. Cheap
It also only comes in 4 colors, rather than all 7.

Why is it surprising the base model doesn't come with all the features of the top and mid level models? That's the case with everything from cars to toilets. It's the case with pretty much every type of electronics out there.

"You're telling me the cheaper model includes the cheaper keyboard rather than the more expensive one?!"
 
To me, the base model of iMac appears to be best suited to hot-desking businesses and/or education given where the economies have been made. TouchID really doesn't make a lot of sense in some settings.
Also, not needed for those that use their Apple Watch to login. Or have touch security concerns.
 
Of course it doesn’t. They need you to buy the Magic Keyboard. 😜 In all seriousness I would like to hear Apple’s reasoning behind this. Probably the same logical response behind not putting the U1 chip in the new Apple remote.
I think the reason is just that iOS doesn't support it yet. Why would they bother building support for wireless Touch ID in iPadOS when they don't expect iPad to be docked and connected to a wireless keyboard.

My guess is the iPad will support it later in the year, after iOS 15 is released.
 
well, it has face id right there for you...

Yeah, but if you’re using a keyboard that Touch ID is way more convenient. If you need to activate the Face ID instead to complete a purchase or authorize a password population, you’d instead need to reach out to the iPad... probably with both hands so you can brace it for the required action... and double tap the power button to start the ID.
 
It also only comes in 4 colors, rather than all 7.

Why is it surprising the base model doesn't come with all the features of the top and mid level models? That's the case with everything from cars to toilets. It's the case with pretty much every type of electronics out there.

"You're telling me the cheaper model includes the cheaper keyboard rather than the more expensive one?!"

Yeah, because additional colors are totally worth the premium price increase. :rolleyes:

The iMac is already an overpriced machine as it is, now you can't even buy the base model with all of the features it's supposed to have. Higher priced models should just be for more RAM and storage. You can literally buy a MacBook Pro and carry it around for the same price.
 
Yeah, because additional colors are totally worth the premium price increase. :rolleyes:

The iMac is already an overpriced machine as it is, now you can't even buy the base model with all of the features it's supposed to have. Higher priced models should just be for more RAM and storage. You can literally buy a MacBook Pro and carry it around for the same price.

Thank you
 
Kind of a bummer.

More importantly, do we know what else, if anything, that button does? Is it the power/wake button?
 


While the Touch ID sensor on the new Magic Keyboard is compatible with all M1 Macs, including the new iMac and last fall's 13-inch MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, and Mac mini, MacRumors has confirmed with Apple that the Touch ID sensor will not function with the new iPad Pro, even though it also has an M1 chip.

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The new Magic Keyboard can still be used with the iPad Pro and other devices, like Intel-based Macs, with the exception of Touch ID.

Apple will be offering three versions of the Magic Keyboard, including a standard version with Touch ID, a standard version without Touch ID, and an extended version with Touch ID and a numeric keypad. However, the new Magic Keyboard will only be available with the new iMac and not sold separately, at least initially, according to Apple.

Higher-end 24-inch iMacs will ship with the Magic Keyboard with Touch ID in the box at no additional charge, but it will be a $50 upgrade option for the base model.

Article Link: Touch ID on New Magic Keyboard Isn't Compatible With


While the Touch ID sensor on the new Magic Keyboard is compatible with all M1 Macs, including the new iMac and last fall's 13-inch MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, and Mac mini, MacRumors has confirmed with Apple that the Touch ID sensor will not function with the new iPad Pro, even though it also has an M1 chip.

Touch-ID-Keyboard-Feature.jpg

The new Magic Keyboard can still be used with the iPad Pro and other devices, like Intel-based Macs, with the exception of Touch ID.

Apple will be offering three versions of the Magic Keyboard, including a standard version with Touch ID, a standard version without Touch ID, and an extended version with Touch ID and a numeric keypad. However, the new Magic Keyboard will only be available with the new iMac and not sold separately, at least initially, according to Apple.

Higher-end 24-inch iMacs will ship with the Magic Keyboard with Touch ID in the box at no additional charge, but it will be a $50 upgrade option for the base model.

Article Link: Touch ID on New Magic Keyboard Isn't Compatible With M1 iPad Pr
 
Given the hardware similarities now, I would imagine this might be a macOS vs iPadOS software issue. The real question is want to fix it in future is updates
 
It just works.

came here to ask what happened to this. I get that it’s probably not all that big of deal for most people to not have, but there have been some odd things going on with the recent releases (as a number of the comments bring up). This one, not having U1 or at least an audible indicator on the new Siri remote, not all new iMacs coming with touchID to begin with... just a couple of things I would expect to just work (or be provided as a basic function) when using day to day. But, those are my expectations (which Apple has historically made me have through a lot of their excellent products and “wow” moments) and I know it’s not the reality for whatever reason.
 
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I’m assuming that this keyboard will work with any Bluetooth enabled device, just not for a Touch ID, correct?
 
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Is anyone beating down Tim's front door *for* Touch ID to function on an external keyboard for their iPad Pro?
Beside the point, this is Apple and everything should work together. And if you do use the keyboard, there is the Touch ID button, just taking up real estate for no purpose.
It just works.
Quite so.
Just remembering the good old days when Jobs insisted that everything interoperate, except for very limited product transitions. Now it is such a hodgepodge that you have to be in Mensa to understand what works with what.
Quite so to eleventy.

it smacks of a huge conglomerate where the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing in a major product release.
 
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