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Sorry Trent, love your music, but my experience with Apple Music so far has been complete garbage. After iTunes completely wrecked my library and I started over fresh, playlists and music are still refusing to sync to my iOS devices and it's making songs available offline that I never told it to. I'll stick with what's worked for me for all these years, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 
When I sat down with the people at Apple, I found a very respectful, collaborative environment that wanted to take some of the tentpoles that mattered to us at Beats Music, which really was trying to make an experience that didn't feel like data. Something that felt organic and respectful to music rather than just, "We're just delivering assets to your mobile device." They treated music in a way that put an emphasis on curation and taste.

That's exactly the feeling I got after first opening Music! It felt so much like, were I Trent Reznor and sitting down with the people at Apple, I'd be in a respectful, collaborative environment!

It didn't make the UI more intuitive or anything, but it was nice.
 
I like it in general but the UI is definitely more confusing than Spotify. Things aren't intuitive like the difference between iCloud Music Library, My Music, Available Offline, Radios, Stations... Connect doesn't seem to have much going on unless I'm not using it properly. Then where is iTunes and iTunes Match supposed to fit into all this? Maybe they should have reset the whole music experience to simplify things.
Another (smaller) complaint is that Apple Music seems to be forcing too much new or obscure tracks on me (For You / Radio) when I usually just want to listen to the stuff I'm used to and the stuff that's popular.

Apart from this I'll keep using it, the huge bonus over Spotify is that its woven into the rest of the OS through Siri and my car etc.

So you want it to recommend stuff you already know about?
 
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What's even worse is that a playlist that is setup and plays everything correctly in iTunes on my Mac, spits out totally different versions of the same songs when I try to play it on my iPhone! There are some major bugs to be worked out here for sure.

The playlist syncing appears totally broken, and yet it is currently the only way to get music onto an Apple Watch.

Apple Music is, IMO, a completely broken platform. It also happens to have the best music that is available right now, but hopefully Spotify will use this opportunity to negotiate better deals with the labels and make up the gap. I want to use Apple Music but it really does suck.

Apple managed the feat of actually making me compliment Spotify's UI design. That's how bad iTunes is.
 
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MEMO TO MR. REZNOR:

Music is not about an experience.

Music is about quality.

Experience is the back-end buzzword that companies use when they are trying to sell rip-offs.

There is almost no music of quality that has been produced in the last twenty years. Therefore, people are content to stream it for free rather than pay for it.

Writing good music is hard. It may be that good music has died a natural death, in which case, no amount of curation will save it. In the event that it hasn't died yet, we are in a moribund period, and are waiting for it to re-ignite.

There is almost a 100% chance that it won't in the current quality-hostile climate, however. Why? Because musicians aren't paid enough. Not nearly enough.

When musicians are paid Tim Cook's wage, and he is relegated to his rightful position as a drone administrator and paid accordingly, then, and only then, will music once again flourish.
Yeah, I'm sure you know better than the greatest single figure in the last 20 years of American industrial rock.

Get that busch league nonsense out of here.

Edit: Seriously, do you even listen to music?
 
I like it in general but the UI is definitely more confusing than Spotify. Things aren't intuitive like the difference between iCloud Music Library, My Music, Available Offline, Radios, Stations...
I knew it was going to be like this when I saw that they kept the same bubble crap from Beats. Hate to say it but you need a guy like SJ for these things. It's like they're just piecing stuff together trying to make things work like a mix of Twitter, Spotify, older Beats, Instagram. Connect is just Ping with an Instagram/Twitter UI. Only this time around artists and labels were ready to embrace it. At least the music and curation is good.
 
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Love that everyone is complaining about a $10 a month subscription service they are getting for free. By the time any of us pay a dime, the system should be a lot more stable.
 
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The point is you don't know the difference between Apple Music and iTunes (and they're very different).

Music is an experience separate from the UI piece anyway.

I'm sorry, I don't see an argument in this post, just a personal attack and a meaningless statement. Please try again.
 
I'm sorry, I don't see an argument in this post, just a personal attack and a meaningless statement. Please try again.
My argument: Apple Music and iTunes are NOT the same implementation. Apple Music is a 1.0 product which is a mold of Beats Music and iTunes Music store. It is not enough like either product to be labeled anything but a 1.0 product.
 
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MEMO TO MR. REZNOR:

Music is not about an experience.

Music is about quality.

Experience is the back-end buzzword that companies use when they are trying to sell rip-offs.

There is almost no music of quality that has been produced in the last twenty years. Therefore, people are content to stream it for free rather than pay for it.

Writing good music is hard. It may be that good music has died a natural death, in which case, no amount of curation will save it. In the event that it hasn't died yet, we are in a moribund period, and are waiting for it to re-ignite.

There is almost a 100% chance that it won't in the current quality-hostile climate, however. Why? Because musicians aren't paid enough. Not nearly enough.

When musicians are paid Tim Cook's wage, and he is relegated to his rightful position as a drone administrator and paid accordingly, then, and only then, will music once again flourish.

No decent music in the last 20 years? I can't even.... Just admit you don't like anything and move on. And yes, the EXPERIENCE is just as important, because I don't know, if I can't find my music, then what's the point and Apple Music destroyed my nicely organized music library.
 
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I've come to accept that Apple just doesn't know how to make good applications anymore. If you watched some of the developer sessions on design, you will know that Apple is a bit preachy and arrogant when it comes to design and good user experiences. The new music app is bad in combination with Apple Music.

Starting with the selection of interests and artists to assemble your profile. This bubble interface is utterly confusing and very unwieldy. You actually need to read the label to understand how it works and the controls are not intuitive in themselves. For instance, you need to tap and hold on a bubble to signal that you are not interested in this genre/artist and tap on it to make it bigger (and more important). Aside from nearly all the artists on the bubbles were unknown to me. No way to add a suggestion of your own. The 'experience' goes wrong from the start.

The structure of the app is overwhelming and condusing. I frequently just click on different tabs now because I can't seem to remember where some things were located. In particular the For You, New and Radio tabs all have different UIs, different logics with different degrees of drilling down, with inconspicuous and sometimes small touch targets. When you start a search you effectively occupy one of tabs completely and you may get lost even more when you switch tabs. I am also annoyed by the fact that the app doesn't always behave like you would expect. For instance, tapping on a song in your Recently Added section in My Music will only play that one song. It won't treat the Recently Added section as a playlist or add your other songs to your Up Next list, you have to do that manually. The Stations section is something I don't understand yet either. It seems that you can make new stations, but you can't do anything else with it. You can't give further input. It's almost like a random playlist based on one base song.

I don't know what they were thinking. They couldn't be away further from human interface principles anymore.
 
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Even though Beats1 always seems to work I find the Radio just as buggy and unreliable as the old version which is why I stopped using it last time it rolled out. I constantly get unable to start messages on most of the stations. I don't understand why they can't get that right. Radio on AppleTV was a much better implementation.
 

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My argument: Apple Music and iTunes are NOT the same implementation. Apple Music is a 1.0 product which is a mold of Beats Music and iTunes Music store. It is not enough like either product to be labeled anything but a 1.0 product.

This article highlights one of the biggest issues with Apple Music: that it forces you to use iTunes Match, something that has been around for a year (and is absolutely awful, and has not improved). It is a mess.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/1/8877129/apple-music-icloud-problems

Beyond that, iTunes on Windows doesn't scale to high DPI displays and looks either incredibly ugly, or the UI elements are broken, depending on the type of scaling you use (MS has created thorough APIs for scaling and has had them for years, since before Windows 7. Apple has never updated iTunes to follow them, and in fact the new iTunes design scales even worse than the old one).

Music the service itself has some issues, but it is not bad. The biggest issues are Match ruining people's existing music collections and infecting Music with wrong copies of songs, with no way of fixing it, as well as the bad iTunes interface. Even if they fix the Music service issues (Beats1 going offline, people getting errors playing certain songs) the whole package will still be broken because iTunes will still be broken.
 
I was hoping that the store experience would be similar to what I experience in other Apple interfaces. Ideally the experience in Apple Music would be the same as the iTunes Store iOS app. But it isn't. It is very difficult to find music unless you search for the specific artist. The app store has very well thought out genres and such that I can get to easily and see top selling songs and such. This interface should be carried over to Apple Music. It is the Apple way to keep easy and simple interfaces the same across platforms and apps as much as possible. I was subscribe to beats music and spotify and find they are trying to create those interfaces.

LOL one plus that is stupid but I like is that my music albums (when you click on them) the color scheme of the screen matches the general color scheme of the album cover. I really like that because it creates the mood of the album. Big plus for something small and thoughtful that Apple added.
 
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LOL one plus that is stupid but I like is that my music albums (when you click on them) the color scheme of the screen matches the general color scheme of the album cover. I really like that because it creates the mood of the album. Big plus for something small and thoughtful that Apple added.

It's a nice design, but at the cost of readability sometimes, especially the status bar. If only they kept the status bar opaque.
 
This article highlights one of the biggest issues with Apple Music: that it forces you to use iTunes Match, something that has been around for a year (and is absolutely awful, and has not improved). It is a mess.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/1/8877129/apple-music-icloud-problems

Beyond that, iTunes on Windows doesn't scale to high DPI displays and looks either incredibly ugly, or the UI elements are broken, depending on the type of scaling you use (MS has created thorough APIs for scaling and has had them for years, since before Windows 7. Apple has never updated iTunes to follow them, and in fact the new iTunes design scales even worse than the old one).

Music the service itself has some issues, but it is not bad. The biggest issues are Match ruining people's existing music collections and infecting Music with wrong copies of songs, with no way of fixing it, as well as the bad iTunes interface. Even if they fix the Music service issues (Beats1 going offline, people getting errors playing certain songs) the whole package will still be broken because iTunes will still be broken.

Match completely messed up my library last year and I deactivated it. Now they are forcing it on people and it messed up again.
 
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