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Match completely messed up my library last year and I deactivated it. Now they are forcing it on people and it messed up again.
Currently in the process of backing up my Match libarary and completely deleiting it from iTunes, so that I might be able to use Apple Music for streaming only.
 
You can't, songs have DRM.
Yuck, i get the subscription model..offline mode etc...but I'm reading alot of Matched songs are DRM now too.

'The Experience is What Matters'...

...and the Experience is crap.

Yeah its overtly convoluted - especially on mobile and the desktop version is so cluttered.

My argument: Apple Music and iTunes are NOT the same implementation. Apple Music is a 1.0 product which is a mold of Beats Music and iTunes Music store. It is not enough like either product to be labeled anything but a 1.0 product.
When they're in the same App, they are.
When Apple Music controls the Contents of iTunes, yes its the same thing...Apple just has a terrible way of creating that transparency and properly managing two separate but somewhat equal things
 
Ah no. Everything about this, no. User Experience is how someone feels about something. It's not a trick, or a manipulation. You can design for a user experience, and you can design great UI to help facilitate that, but to say that you set out to design a user experience, that's poor, so people linger, is about the silliest thing I've ever heard.

At best, it's a terrible gamble. At worst, it's *****, as this is.


I'll play Devils advocate -- the UI UX is purposefully convoluted to get people to linger in the app longer.
 
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Not great so far, and I am really trying to like it, but it's still a long way behind Spotify in ease of use and usability.

I think they will lose a lot of people after the free trial unless it makes some very large steps.
 
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So you want it to recommend stuff you already know about?
It's not purely a recommendation service (I hope). I want it to play a mixture of stuff I already enjoy and stuff I haven't heard before in the radio / for you sections, I don't think that's an unusual expectation. It would then serve a similar function to a traditional radio station. This is what Spotify and last.fm do - Apple Music seems too heavy on the unfamiliar, maybe that's cool but it's not as enjoyable.
 
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They still haven't fixed the major flaw..sound quality.
Sadly, the sound quality approaches a transistor radio at best..
Its not enough for Eddy "karaoke" Cue requesting improved masters from recoed companies ..With improved compression techniques, there are no excuses for lossy 256k AAC ..
The Apple Music app has a polished look and feel although the sound is just awful.
At this stage, I'll only use it as a vehicle to audition new albums.
 
They still haven't fixed the major flaw..sound quality.
Sadly, the sound quality approaches a transistor radio at best..
Its not enough for Eddy "karaoke" Cue requesting improved masters from recoed companies ..With improved compression techniques, there are no excuses for lossy 256k AAC ..
The Apple Music app has a polished look and feel although the sound is just awful.
At this stage, I'll only use it as a vehicle to audition new albums.

You need to use Tidal then. But honestly, unless you have some HD800s or something, you won't notice much difference between 256 kbps AAC (which isn't bad at all) and FLAC.
 
MEMO TO MR. REZNOR:

Music is not about an experience.

Music is about quality.

Experience is the back-end buzzword that companies use when they are trying to sell rip-offs.

There is almost no music of quality that has been produced in the last twenty years. Therefore, people are content to stream it for free rather than pay for it.

Writing good music is hard. It may be that good music has died a natural death, in which case, no amount of curation will save it. In the event that it hasn't died yet, we are in a moribund period, and are waiting for it to re-ignite.

There is almost a 100% chance that it won't in the current quality-hostile climate, however. Why? Because musicians aren't paid enough. Not nearly enough.

When musicians are paid Tim Cook's wage, and he is relegated to his rightful position as a drone administrator and paid accordingly, then, and only then, will music once again flourish.
MEMO TO MR. REZNOR:

Music is not about an experience.

Music is about quality.

Experience is the back-end buzzword that companies use when they are trying to sell rip-offs.

There is almost no music of quality that has been produced in the last twenty years. Therefore, people are content to stream it for free rather than pay for it.

Writing good music is hard. It may be that good music has died a natural death, in which case, no amount of curation will save it. In the event that it hasn't died yet, we are in a moribund period, and are waiting for it to re-ignite.

There is almost a 100% chance that it won't in the current quality-hostile climate, however. Why? Because musicians aren't paid enough. Not nearly enough.

When musicians are paid Tim Cook's wage, and he is relegated to his rightful position as a drone administrator and paid accordingly, then, and only then, will music once again flourish.

Should be pretty obvious more money does not equal better music.
 
I've never liked any streaming service I've used, but I use them because otherwise I would have to spend ~$800-1000 to get 700 something songs in my library. It's easier to just pay for a service then to shell out that money or try to torrent everything.

I used Spotify because it was the best, but I really didn't enjoy it that much. Mostly the fact that it didn't integrate with the iPhone.

I still have some issues with Apple Music, but I totally agree that there's a great deal of more "Artist Interaction" and I'm excited to see what Connect can do. Beats 1, while often a hit or miss with what is played, is really a fun experience. I love it! Apple Music is definitely the best streaming service so far, and honestly the software is 10x better than what any other service offers, but there's still room for improvement. I'm excited to see what's next!
 
My user experience with MUSIC is:

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Good job, Apple! :cool:
 
design a user experience, that's poor, so people linger, is about the silliest thing I've ever heard.

I didn't say poor I said convoluted -- the twisted winding maze meaning.

Reznor expressed a desire to not have software that "delivered assests". There is a way to display and share the music with just sterile efficient lists to deliver assests which I think he is against. I think they opted for an interface that feels dense, full of artist updates, album art, drop downs, tons of options for sharing / discovery and the live radio station for a shared cultural experience which isn't so common these days within asynchronous content on demand. There is purposeful intent to increase cognitive load and make it seem jam packed with twists and turns. That feels exciting like a show with 5 story arcs interweaving. That caters to the two friends in study hall sharing a left and right earbud queuing up what's next after what's next. It does all this while preserving the dead simple option for the guy driving who just wants to focus on the road holds down the button for Siri and asks for a song.
 
Apple Music is for young people -- they want to be cool and relevant again on music which Spotify snatched while Apple was napping. Dad who is concerned about quality already has the lossless Aja album ripped into iTunes.
 
Even though Beats1 always seems to work I find the Radio just as buggy and unreliable as the old version which is why I stopped using it last time it rolled out. I constantly get unable to start messages on most of the stations. I don't understand why they can't get that right. Radio on AppleTV was a much better implementation.
I had this message until I signed up for the trial. So I guess that means even the radio isn't free?
 
I've disliked the spotify UI since day one. How many times do I have to click back, back, back, ok now I can search, click back, click my music, click album, etc.

(I meant tap not click but don't wanna edit all those)

Apple Music took me a few minutes to figure out but it's almost identical to the Music app that was on 8.3 so I find it very familiar and I get to what I want with far less taps.

The cloud music library, while not confusing, just surprised me. I feel like they do a poor job of explaining their cloud services.
Basically, an Apple Music subscription gives you iTunes Match. I set it all up last night and it has worked flawlessly for me.

My entire music collection is on all my devices and I've seriously been loving Beats 1.
Checked out the Aligator Hour tonight and it was great. St Vincent's mix tape show yesterday on my drive home was tops as well. They are putting standard radio to shame. And I couldn't be happier about it. Bravo!
 
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U I needs some changes However the overall experience is good so far. Some artists missing, hopefully everything gets straightened out.
 
Because musicians aren't paid enough. Not nearly enough.

Um, Forbes would beg to differ:
  • Katy Perry: $135M
  • Garth Brooks: $90M
  • Taylor Swift: $80M
  • The Eagles: $73.5M
  • Justin Timberlake: $63.5M
  • Fleetwood Mac: $59.5M
  • Rolling Stones: $57.5M
  • Elton John: $53.5M
  • Paul McCartney: $51.5M
  • The list goes on...
The lowest earning musician on Forbes' list of "The World's Highest-Paid Celebrities" is Blake Shelton (who?) at $28.5M per year.

If almost $30 Million per year isn't enough to get them creative juices flowing, I don't know what is.

You blame the music industry a lot, but you can't. The music industry is just that; an industry. A Business. They don't churn out crappy pop music and force it down people's throats; the people lap up crappy pop music, so to earn more money, they churn out more. It's just that simple.

Besides, there's more than enough quality music being produced these days (tracks from the aforementioned Trent Reznor being among the best still, in my opinion), you just have to dig a little deeper to find it and you have to be willing to go to new places, musically. Maybe Connect will help with that.
 
I'm having a terrible experience with Beats 1. No matter what I try, it will not work over cellular. Everything else works fine.
 
MEMO TO MR. REZNOR:

Music is not about an experience.

Music is about quality.

Experience is the back-end buzzword that companies use when they are trying to sell rip-offs.

There is almost no music of quality that has been produced in the last twenty years. Therefore, people are content to stream it for free rather than pay for it.

Writing good music is hard. It may be that good music has died a natural death, in which case, no amount of curation will save it. In the event that it hasn't died yet, we are in a moribund period, and are waiting for it to re-ignite.

There is almost a 100% chance that it won't in the current quality-hostile climate, however. Why? Because musicians aren't paid enough. Not nearly enough.

When musicians are paid Tim Cook's wage, and he is relegated to his rightful position as a drone administrator and paid accordingly, then, and only then, will music once again flourish.

This guy just said there hasn't really been any quality music is TWENTY years.

Yep. Your opinion is null and void.
 
I got Carrie Underwood. Said I don't like her. They gave me Kelly Clarkson.

Other recs are not bad though.
 
Unlike some people around here, I for one actually am very satisfied with Apple Music so far. The For You section is incredible and it has suggested songs and albums I haven't heard in years. I wish though there was a way to pin your favorite recommendation windows so they don't disappear over time. It'd also be nice if they make the Recently Added and Recently Played sections optional because they are not useful and only take up space
I agree! Even after tagging just a couple of albums on regular (ripped CD's) playlist on the iPhone, I get really nice playlists offered. Better than any suggestion I ever got on Spotify.

Sound quality of Apple Music is great out of the box. Standard Spotify settings suck, especiallly the volume leveling.

And then the library is a bit more extensive than Spotify (but stlll no (Smog) :( ).

Would I pay for Spotify? No. Would I pay for Apple Music? I might, If I didn’t get Spotify for free with my ISP already.
 
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