I agree, we don't need new versions every year. This is the sad state of technology. Now even cars are getting software updates. I wish we'd slow down and polish each release. I'd rather way 3-4 years with a new IOS version than what we're getting now.
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Troubling iOS 17.5 Bug Reportedly Resurfacing Old Deleted Photos
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I agree, we don't need new versions every year. This is the sad state of technology. Now even cars are getting software updates. I wish we'd slow down and polish each release. I'd rather way 3-4 years with a new IOS version than what we're getting now.
Not to worry, for the Apple Support script is here to save the day:
1. This is not an issue. So, you’ll need to restore your device, set it up as new, and reproduce the issue.
2. After collecting device logs, a Senior Advisor will need to do RTA to Engineering.
3. Engineering says this is a known issue, keep your device up to date, and no further troubleshooting will be provided.
Yup... one knows that nothing is truly deleted, just marked as deleted most of the time (especially on terrible social media) but apple prided themselves to respect user privacy so this is highly concerning...
I'm pretty sure this violates EU data protection laws.
Apple retaining old photos that users deleted to train their CSAM (Child Sexual Abuse Material) software 😲 which they'll be rolling out with iOS 18
I think whatever assurances Apple has claimed still apply. The lack of full delete in your instance of their cloud services, doesn't necessarily mean they have any access or visibility into your content.
The same issue happens with Messages in the cloud for me. No matter what photos or messages I delete from threads, they will reappear if I force a sync. Been happening to me since iOS 15. Apple support cannot even figure it out. Apple is terrible with cloud syncing.
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Okay, Tim, if you say so.
Can only hope some sort of investigation is opened so that we can found out what this is all about.
Index, fine, but a fully fledged photo (and not a preview) shouldn't show up after it has been deleted.
You obviously do not remember MobileMe
well it appears that may explain what happened but that's not how it is presented to the end-user.
I bet this is related to a photos bug I reported a few years ago, a few times.
There are concerning reports on Reddit that Apple's latest iOS 17.5 update has introduced a bug that causes old photos that were deleted – in some cases years ago – to reappear in users' photo libraries.
After updating their iPhone, one user said they were shocked to find old NSFW photos that they deleted in 2021 suddenly showing up in photos marked as recently uploaded to iCloud. Other users have also chimed in with similar stories. "Same here," said one Redditor. "I have four pics from 2010 that keep reappearing as the latest pics uploaded to iCloud. I have deleted them repeatedly."
"Same thing happened to me," replied another user. "Six photos from different times, all I have deleted. Some I had deleted in 2023." More reports have been trickling in overnight. One said: "I had a random photo from a concert taken on my Canon camera reappear in my phone library, and it showed up as if it was added today."
It's not clear what's happening, but given that some of the photos were apparently taken years ago, this cannot be an issue with recently deleted photos being undeleted. In Apple's Photos app, deleted photos and videos are kept in the Recently Deleted album for 30 days, so that users can recover or permanently remove them from all devices.
The reports could be down to an indexing bug, photo library corruption, or a syncing issue between local devices and iCloud Photos. Another possibility is that in attempting to fix a photo syncing bug that occurred in iOS 17.3, Apple has inadvertently caused a new syncing issue to occur that may involve iCloud backups. Some users running iOS 17.5 developer beta 4 earlier reported similar experiences. We'll update this article when we learn more.
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Never got fixed.
Basically photos deleted if they were saved or downloaded or imported were still in a folder accessible with third party software but not actually deleted.
I only noticed because of storage discrepancies and iOS didn’t seem to know what was happening.
I had 3 appear the other day under my Recents. They were duplicates because I was able to find the originals by searching by date. It should be noted that this happened prior to updating to 17.5. I think is an indexing issue.
as terrible as this is, it's better than the inverse - photos people didn't delete going missing. That would be devastating.
This is also why I use the Image Capture app to manually pull ALL my photos off my phone regularly. I put them into a folder on my server behind authentication and access and view them whenever I want via a web based photos app that I wrote.
This is also why I use the Image Capture app to manually pull ALL my photos off my phone regularly. I put them into a folder on my server behind authentication and access and view them whenever I want via a web based photos app that I wrote.
Files on a Mac's hard drive can be recovered as long as they haven't been overwritten by newer data.
Both bad, but I argue this is worse. It is a complete breach of trust. When they say something will be deleted forever after 30 days, you should be able to assume it no longer exists.
If something is important enough to you, you should be backing it up yourself anyway. So that's why your situation while bad, isn't as bad.
Or store them in the cloud after local encryption, which I do. In addition to backups, of course.
There are many reasons, many nefarious and others simply negligent. The adage ‘Data is Forever’ combined with ‘Knowledge is Power’ is all you need to know. I work in storage and have 98PB of data under management. Storage is cheap. Kinda scary, eh?
I'm starting to believe that anything we do is on the net somewhere. Someone or something is hoarding all our data. 