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Doesn't Apple use Google Cloud as their cloud provider?

Maybe this isn't an Apple issue but rather an Alphabet/Google Cloud issue.

That's not how cloud object storage works. If these photos are really restored from cloud, Apple must have kept references to them (in addition to the decryption keys), otherwise they'd have no IDs to retrieve the data, even if Google kept the stored data. The way to safely delete objects from cloud storage is to delete the decryption keys, then it doesn’t matter if the encrypted object still exists somewhere or not.
 
It makes no difference. Apple is responsible as they are the ones with the TOS agreement.

Indeed that's the NSFW photo I'm hoping doesn't "pop up" again ;)

But yeah as Ricky said, Tim Apple has some esplainin' to do regarding what "deleted" means
If they've kept personal photos that individuals have deleted, that is plain illegal (at least in the UK and EU). This means Apple is saying NOTHING on this. Expect a very quiet fix, very soon.
 
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I wondered if the rogue programmer did this on purpose to let us know that it was never really deleted? Kind of like an invisible whistleblower. I know, as a programmer, it's R.E.A.D. (Read. Edit. Add. Delete).
fascinating theory. I have a weird feeling this story is going to unfold quite a bit as techies do their best to figure out what’s going on here—would be quite the spectacle if an “invisible whistleblower” is unveiled.
 
If this was Google photos, this site/forum would be losing its minds and the tech media would be out in force tweeting like its had their pets put down.

Apple should be rightly condemned for this hoarding of old images and the hilarious fact they leaked it themselves for being so incompetent.

How anyone with a brain can fall for the marketing BS of "privacy" at Apple is beyond me.
 
The lack of insight in this article is troubling.

If photos are re-appearing after they were deleted years ago, it is not a new bug. It is, in fact, new fix. If the photo had been actually deleted, it should be gone. If it was not actually deleted and was instead orphaned, it should appear in the library until properly deleted. An orphaned photo not appearing as a serious spec.

An alternative would’ve been to delete the orphan photos, but then you wouldn’t know that they had never been deleted until now.

This is an honest bug fix.
 
The lack of insight in this article is troubling.

If photos are re-appearing after they were deleted years ago, it is not a new bug. It is, in fact, new fix. If the photo had been actually deleted, it should be gone. If it was not actually deleted and was instead orphaned, it should appear in the library until properly deleted. An orphaned photo not appearing as a serious spec.

An alternative would’ve been to delete the orphan photos, but then you wouldn’t know that they had never been deleted until now.

This is an honest bug fix.
This is incredible spin.

Call it a bug or fix, that's not really important.

Only thing that matters is "deleted" photos were clearly not actually deleted despite Apple telling us they were.
 
Files on a Mac's hard drive can be recovered as long as they haven't been overwritten by newer data.
What do you mean by "overwritten by newer data"?

Let's say I delete 10 files, emptry my Trash and then delete another 10 files and empty the trash. Are they overwritten?
 
This might explain why I still get Storage is Full, when I still have over 2GB of storage left, but I’m still reminded.
Very annoying. Good thing I did not upgrade to 17.5 yet. We just have to be one step behind in updating, I always keep my update to manual update on all of my devices.
 
There were only how many betas? I can’t with the bugs. It gets worse and worse. How are they expected to introduce AI on 18 when they still can’t get 17 right? Just my opinion.
this is the reality of modern day software. Nothing would get released if the goal was 'no bugs'
 
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The lack of insight in this article is troubling.

If photos are re-appearing after they were deleted years ago, it is not a new bug. It is, in fact, new fix. If the photo had been actually deleted, it should be gone. If it was not actually deleted and was instead orphaned, it should appear in the library until properly deleted. An orphaned photo not appearing as a serious spec.

An alternative would’ve been to delete the orphan photos, but then you wouldn’t know that they had never been deleted until now.

This is an honest bug fix.
No-one is worried about the bug, iOS is a little buggy these days, we all understand that. Its the fact that the bug shows Apple are not deleting user photos after the user has requested deletion. That is illegal in most parts of the western world, morally wrong from a personal privacy point of view, and hypocrisy from a brand that prides itself on being a bastion of personal privacy
 
Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the state of Apple Software QC (or complete lack thereof) in 2024. So much for that "security" paying the premium price and living in a walled garden gets you.

Every software has bugs; what’s important is who has the capability to send a software update and fix those bugs, and the only answer is Apple.

The vulnerabilities were communicated to Samsung more than 3 months ago, but the Korean manufacturer has so far done nothing about it, say engineers at Google Project Zero.
 
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