Yeah but this "bug" is a biggie because it revealed they weren't actually deleting photos they said they were deleting!this is the reality of modern day software. Nothing would get released if the goal was 'no bugs'
Yeah but this "bug" is a biggie because it revealed they weren't actually deleting photos they said they were deleting!this is the reality of modern day software. Nothing would get released if the goal was 'no bugs'
Interesting. Does anyone else have this issue with deleted messages? I use Messages in iCloud. I have Advanced Data Protection enabled (all my iCloud data is end to end encrypted). Sometimes I delete messages. Then I delete them from "Deleted Messages", thereby permanently deleting them. 6 months later, they still come up in my deleted messages, fully capable of being restored.
That is illegal in most western countries, keeping photos from individuals when that individual has requested deletionProbably kept in the "just in case Law enforcement asks" bin
But, of course, Apple is on "our side"
Yeah - right
That is illegal in most western countries, keeping photos from individuals when that individual has requested deletion
Without that crap quality we'd never know that Apple was secretly still keeping files.Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the state of Apple Software QC (or complete lack thereof) in 2024. So much for that "security" paying the premium price and living in a walled garden gets you.
Possibly in the USA, however in the UK (where I live) and EU the relevant agencies have nowhere near the power and influence of what the NSA, CIA etc. does in the US, and have more democratic civilian oversight. It wouldn't be allowed.I would agree!
But I also would not be surprised if law enforcement is getting lots of access to things, and using methods, that are "illegal" also
You're being facetious I assume, but there is a legit potential issue that can come from this.So that’s how you’ll explain those NSFW pictures to your wife![]()
Second that. I take a screenshot, send it and then delete it. Now I've got a couple back thinking, "hmmm, did I miss deleting them?". Not too old though so they were probably in the "Recently Deleted" album (which is protected by FaceID, but clearly that isn't enough).So this is why I had a random screenshot reappear in my photos library yesterday!
Make good training input for Siri's ML algos? I mean, who will miss them?I really want to hear the explanation for why photos that were requested for deletion are still around … years later
On device, cloud, etc..
All irrelevant… They should be purged everywhere by that point
Why are they not?
Are there ANY reports of this happening if someone has icloud backup turned off?This tells me that your deleted photos are never really deleted.
I'm starting to believe that anything we do is on the net somewhere. Someone or something is hoarding all our data.![]()
And if you read my post instead of just quoting it, you would see I’m agreeing with you. However, the article calls it a bug in 17.5 and comments call it a recent failure of QA.No-one is worried about the bug, iOS is a little buggy these days, we all understand that. Its the fact that the bug shows Apple are not deleting user photos after the user has requested deletion. That is illegal in most parts of the western world, morally wrong from a personal privacy point of view, and hypocrisy from a brand that prides itself on being a bastion of personal privacy
This needs a major investigation. It’s really making me think Apple is no better than Google.This is extremely worrying if this is an iCloud bug; it’s one thing for on-device photos to be accidentally retained somehow, but if Apple are keeping copies of everyone’s deleted images for years on their servers, that’s a big problem.
"Why should I trust them, they gave me MobileMe"You obviously do not remember MobileMe
You're continuing to focus on the wrong thing.And if you read my post instead of just quoting it, you would see I’m agreeing with you. However, the article calls it a bug in 17.5 and comments call it a recent failure of QA.
I am uninterested in spinning this, only in honesty in how the presence of supposedly deleted photo data is handled.
This is not a 17.5 bug.