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They could certainly and I would like to see them do so but the biggest problem will be the unions who will try and extort everything they can from Apple. Were already seeing it with those idiots in retail. Get rid of the unions and you'll be fine.
Getting rid of unions would do nothing but make it more difficult for workers to get treated fairly. This is especially true in jobs that don’t require degrees.
 


U.S. President Donald Trump "absolutely" believes that Apple could manufacture its iPhones and other devices in the United States, Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said today during a media briefing.

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Leavitt was asked whether Trump thought that iPhone manufacturing is the kind of technology that could move to the U.S. "Absolutely, he believes we have the labor, we have the workforce, we have the resources to do it," she replied, also referencing the $500 billion investment in the U.S. that Apple announced earlier this year. "And as you know, Apple has invested $500 billion here in the United States, so if Apple didn't think the United States could do it, they probably wouldn't have put up that big chunk of change."

Trump is planning to levy steep tariffs on China, Vietnam, Thailand India, the European Union, and other countries starting on April 9. He has claimed that if companies like Apple do not want to pay the tariffs, they should manufacture their devices in the United States. Despite Trump's suggestion that Apple could shift its incredibly complex supply chain to the U.S., it would be next to impossible. Disregarding the expense of such a maneuver, it's not likely that Apple and its suppliers would be able to find enough people with the necessary skillset in the United States. Cook commented on manufacturing in China in 2017, and said that Apple's iPhones are assembled there because China has expertise in very advanced manufacturing.

U.S. secretary of commerce Howard Lutnick made similar comments about iPhone manufacturing over the weekend, as 404 Media pointed out today in a piece titled "A 'US-Made iPhone' Is Pure Fantasy." Lutnick said that the "army of millions and millions of people screwing in little, little screws to make iPhones, that kind of thing is going to come to America," suggesting that neither he nor Trump understands Apple's operations.

404 Media highlights Apple's 27-page supplier list [PDF], which lists the more than 50 countries where Apple gets components from. That doesn't even count rare earth minerals that are sourced from 79 countries, and that can't be mined in the U.S. Apple could not avoid tariffs by "manufacturing" in the United States because there is no feasible way all of the iPhone's components could be made in one country. Even if we limit "manufacturing" to device assembly, and the U.S. had the skilled employees required (which it does not), cost of living and wages in the U.S. vs. wages in other countries would make the price of a U.S. iPhone astronomically higher.

Apple has not yet commented on the tariffs, but the company has been stockpiling iPhones and is also planning to rely on imports from India, where tariffs are lower, to offset some of costs associated with importing devices from China.

It is true that Apple announced a $500 billion investment in the United States, but Apple will be manufacturing servers for its Private Cloud Compute system, not iPhones. Servers are a low demand product that aren't customer facing.

When Apple manufactured the Mac Pro in Texas during Trump's first term, it was largely a failure. Apple struggled to find local suppliers, importing components to Texas caused delays and unexpected expenses, and Apple had a hard time finding workers with the required skill.

As of yesterday, Trump was planning to levy a 54 percent tariff on China, but today, he increased that by another 50 percent. Starting tomorrow, goods imported from China will be subject to a tariff of 104 percent.

Note: Due to the political or social nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Political News forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.

Article Link: Trump Believes Apple Could Manufacture iPhones in the U.S.
As someone who works in an advanced manufacturing facility in the US, in a field with quite a few advanced manufacturing facilities in the US, Tim Cook needs to get out more.
 


U.S. President Donald Trump "absolutely" believes that Apple could manufacture its iPhones and other devices in the United States, Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said today during a media briefing.

iPhone-Assembly.jpg

Leavitt was asked whether Trump thought that iPhone manufacturing is the kind of technology that could move to the U.S. "Absolutely, he believes we have the labor, we have the workforce, we have the resources to do it," she replied, also referencing the $500 billion investment in the U.S. that Apple announced earlier this year. "And as you know, Apple has invested $500 billion here in the United States, so if Apple didn't think the United States could do it, they probably wouldn't have put up that big chunk of change."

Trump is planning to levy steep tariffs on China, Vietnam, Thailand India, the European Union, and other countries starting on April 9. He has claimed that if companies like Apple do not want to pay the tariffs, they should manufacture their devices in the United States. Despite Trump's suggestion that Apple could shift its incredibly complex supply chain to the U.S., it would be next to impossible. Disregarding the expense of such a maneuver, it's not likely that Apple and its suppliers would be able to find enough people with the necessary skillset in the United States. Cook commented on manufacturing in China in 2017, and said that Apple's iPhones are assembled there because China has expertise in very advanced manufacturing.

U.S. secretary of commerce Howard Lutnick made similar comments about iPhone manufacturing over the weekend, as 404 Media pointed out today in a piece titled "A 'US-Made iPhone' Is Pure Fantasy." Lutnick said that the "army of millions and millions of people screwing in little, little screws to make iPhones, that kind of thing is going to come to America," suggesting that neither he nor Trump understands Apple's operations.

404 Media highlights Apple's 27-page supplier list [PDF], which lists the more than 50 countries where Apple gets components from. That doesn't even count rare earth minerals that are sourced from 79 countries, and that can't be mined in the U.S. Apple could not avoid tariffs by "manufacturing" in the United States because there is no feasible way all of the iPhone's components could be made in one country. Even if we limit "manufacturing" to device assembly, and the U.S. had the skilled employees required (which it does not), cost of living and wages in the U.S. vs. wages in other countries would make the price of a U.S. iPhone astronomically higher.

Apple has not yet commented on the tariffs, but the company has been stockpiling iPhones and is also planning to rely on imports from India, where tariffs are lower, to offset some of costs associated with importing devices from China.

It is true that Apple announced a $500 billion investment in the United States, but Apple will be manufacturing servers for its Private Cloud Compute system, not iPhones. Servers are a low demand product that aren't customer facing.

When Apple manufactured the Mac Pro in Texas during Trump's first term, it was largely a failure. Apple struggled to find local suppliers, importing components to Texas caused delays and unexpected expenses, and Apple had a hard time finding workers with the required skill.

As of yesterday, Trump was planning to levy a 54 percent tariff on China, but today, he increased that by another 50 percent. Starting tomorrow, goods imported from China will be subject to a tariff of 104 percent.

Note: Due to the political or social nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Political News forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.

Article Link: Trump Believes Apple Could Manufacture iPhones in the U.S.
The Felon-in-Chief is delusional, and ignorant in the extreme about what a responsive manufacturing environment requires. News to no one, I’m guessing.
 
The article quotes Tim Cook as saying "China stopped being the low labor cost country many years ago. The reason is because of the skill, the quantity of skill in one location, and the type of skill it is."

If that's really the case (which I doubt btw) then all of the arguments against moving manufacturing to the US because prices would go up are moot. All we would need to do is develop the quantity and type of skill here in the US, which there is absolutely no reason why we can't
Yeah ok tim
It’s obviously not to do with the $2.88 an hour wage or 14 hour long shifts
Its definitely not a contributing factor
 
Trump thinks too much, it only gets him in trouble. Apple would never bring assembling of iPhones to the US, they could not pay people enough and their profit margin would plummet. Apple tried assembling the MacPro aka trashcan in the US but how long did that happen? I don't know because no one seemed to talk about after it was announced, I suspect it didn't work out financially and the job went back overseas.

He breathes too much too.
 
I don't know what you know about iPhone assembly but 95% of it is assembled by hand.
You’re talking final assembly and even that is an exaggeration due to the final pieces which were all machined manufactured and then put together somewhat by hand. How much more do you know about it? Are you in the manufacturing industry putting these together yourself?
 
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While they could manufacture iPhones in the US, expect an absolutely enormous price increase, probably triple the price if not more.
Why? If labor is now expensive in China, what makes them so much cheaper there? Or India? Or Viet Nam?

Or, Cook is lying. A quick exchange with my search engine shows Foxconn is paying those workers $2.90-$3.00/hour.
 
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Karoline Leavitt is Trump’s attack dog. She is rude, arrogant and aggressive. I really don’t like her.

She and her boss seem to forget that Apple already employ many thousands of people in America and pay substantial corporate taxes in the US.
 
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