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sometimes I am really impressed by how much power the president has on his own in the US. Almost feels like its a half dictatorship like he can veto things, just decide stuff like this on his own. Crazy

And what about state side companies that collect personal data to share and sell them? like your very own mobile phone providers.
Trump should have done this long ago honestly. China bans many applications and US citizens from investing in China. Why shouldn’t we do the same?
Trump should ban all Chinese from China from buying real estate in the US also
 
This is all excellent cover for the companies that WANT to ban their end users from installing these apps on their phones, but don't want to upset their Chinese financers.

Several US tech companies have announced or implemented bans on multiple Chines apps on devices issued to employees or BYOD employees on company networks. India has implemented a ban as well. Several companies have reversed their ban, as the optics were poor and employees complained.


So, it's obvious something is rotten in China (duh) and these apps are being used as a way for China to execute espionage actions on US corporate and government entities. China has a long and proven history of theft of intellectual property and spying on other countries (not just the US). It's just that up until now, no one has held them to task for it.

Trump is wildly unpopular in tech circles. The leaders of these tech companies know this. They know that any ban implemented by the Trump administration is to their benefit in the end. They are happy to go along with the charade.

If Trump seeks to implement a ban. The story is no longer about how US based big tech companies are defying their Chinese paymasters and angering their employee base.

The story is all about Trump now. About executive power, and how right or wrong it is that the President can wield such authority with the stroke of a pen.

And with that, folks. You've been effectively diverted from the real story.
 
Anyone knows if Discord is affected by this policy? |
I Wonder with what would happened with Tencent based funds services.
 
You may want to stop getting your science or facts from Trump, there's a big concern right now in the science community that children might actually be suffering permanent brain damage from COVID-19...

Could you please link the studies where it shows that children are suffering permanent brain damage from Covid-19.
 
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This is so stupid. It’s just a distraction from the actual terror trump is bringing to the world, and we’re falling for it. Let me live and watch funny videos.

update: TikTok responds.


“TikTok has never shared user data with the Chinese government, nor censored content at its request”

“For nearly a year, we have sought to engage with the US government in good faith to provide a constructive solution to the concerns that have been expressed.What we encountered instead was that the Administration paid no attention to facts, dictated terms of an agreement without going through standard legal processes, and tried to insert itself into negotiations between private businesses.”
 
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Really? As a gay man, I would NEVER want my personal information going to the CCP. Or Russia. EVER. Period, end of story. Not with their abmissmal record of LGBTQ abuse. So get out of here with your nonsense and don't speak on behalf of why other people shouldn't care.

As a gay man why would I care if my information is in China or Russia. I know already these are not safe places to visit in much the same way I would not feel safe visiting the USA just now. My fiancé is trans, we are not going for a holiday to Iraq ether.
 
The orange buffoon strikes again!

The Chinese retaliation could mean that Apple products are banned in China, reducing their share price massively for sure.

Or even worse for Apple fans, that products are delayed or production is shut down.

I understand you guys in China don't like Trump banning Tik Tok yet your government bans Facebook, Google and Twitter, censor human right and democracy activists.
 
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As a gay man why would I care if my information is in China or Russia. I know already these are not safe places to visit in much the same way I would not feel safe visiting the USA just now. My fiancé is trans, we are not going for a holiday to Iraq ether.

It's pretty astounding you take that view, frankly.

Why should you care if the Russian or Chinese government has your information? Gee, I don't know, maybe because of this, which is from just 20 days ago. But by all means, feel free to visit.
 
Trump is terrible, but I agree with him on this one issue. China can ban every email service, search engine, or social network that doesn’t limit free speech or facilitate snooping, but the West is supposed bend over and let them market spyware?
 
The Chinese are forming a social credit score around every American that uses these apps whether the user knows it or not.
 
That’s actually a lot more generous of an executive order then I was expecting. The Chinese government doesn’t deserve an extra 45 days. I still support the decision though.

The current U.S. government isn't any better.
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Trump is terrible, but I agree with him on this one issue. China can ban every email service, search engine, or social network that doesn’t limit free speech or facilitate snooping, but the West is supposed bend over and let them market spyware?

Trump didn't even know about TikTok until its users embarrassed him.
 
It seems overkill. The article says the worry is about user data. Why not just have a requirement for USA citizens data to be kept within USA borders?
Thats what this will do and the whole reason for the order is because the servers are in china and the chineese government has all access at any time because of that.
 
It's pretty astounding you take that view, frankly.

Why should you care if the Russian or Chinese government has your information? Gee, I don't know, maybe because of this, which is from just 20 days ago. But by all means, feel free to visit.

Your link has absolutely no relevance to me, I do not live in Russia. It is for Russian LGBTQ people to fight for their own rights and push their society forward. Again, I am not going to visit Russia, China, Iraq, nor the USA during periods that these countries are dangerous to visit. And again, it is irrelevant if they have any personal information I put on the internet just now.
 
Imagine if Obama signed this executive order, none of you would be against it, let's be real about that hahaha.

Well that’s because a lot of these people are working at troll farms. Real people, even those who oppose Trump, have been wanting this for years and this is really the only great thing he’s done in what will be his only term in presidency.


Thankfully Facebook shut down one of the Troll farms yesterday...

Facebook removes troll farm posing as African-American support for Donald Trump
Facebook also removed hundreds of fake accounts linked to conservative media outlet The Epoch Times.


"Facebook removed hundreds of accounts on Thursday from a foreign troll farm posing as African-Americans in support of Donald Trump and QAnon supporters. It also removed hundreds of fake accounts linked to conservative media outlet The Epoch Times that pushed pro-Trump conspiracy theories about coronavirus and protests in the U.S."

"The foreign pro-Trump troll farm was based in Romania and pushed content on Instagram under names like “BlackPeopleVoteForTrump” and on Facebook under “We Love Our President. [...] A separate troll operation, tied to pro-Trump media organization Epoch Media Group, featured 303 Facebook accounts, 181 pages, 44 Facebook groups and 31 Instagram accounts, which were followed by more than 2 million people across both services. Epoch Media Group is the parent company of the newspaper The Epoch Times."

...weirdly, it wasn't people pretending to be Obama supporters. :rolleyes:
 
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Your link has absolutely no relevance to me, I do not live in Russia. It is for Russian LGBTQ people to fight for their own rights and push their society forward. Again, I am not going to visit Russia, China, Iraq, nor the USA during periods that these countries are dangerous to visit. And again, it is irrelevant if they have any personal information I put on the internet just now.

Needless to say, we disagree, but to each their own.

Personally, I would love to visit China and Russia and many countries in the middle east, as they seem like beautiful places with many nice people. However, I would absolutely not feel safe in those countries because of their governments, and simply due to the differences in rights. All I would have to do is be in the wrong place at the wrong time, or say something wrong and I'd end up in jail, disappeared, or worse.
 
Needless to say, we disagree, but to each their own.

Personally, I would love to visit China and Russia and many countries in the middle east, as they seem like beautiful places with many nice people. However, I would absolutely not feel safe in those countries because of their governments, and simply due to the differences in rights. All I would have to do is be in the wrong place at the wrong time, or say something wrong and I'd end up in jail, disappeared, or worse.

In general you should be safe in China, I did visit and you are probably watched but unless you are actually telling the locals about all the freedoms you have back home, you'll be fine. Russia, love to visit and again being a visitor you would be safe as long as you aren't joining a LGBTQ parade. Most of the Middle East I would not feel save and I would not feel safe in much of the USA just now where that lunatic is empowering every bigot under the sun.

However I still respect these countries are going to develop at their own pace and I am not going to impose my beliefs on them. I hold people and businesses in the EU to the highest standards and I certainly hold the USA to a higher standard than China which is why my input on this is strongly against the current administration of the USA that seems hell bent on starting WW3 and setting the USA back decades in social progress.
 
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Imagine if Obama signed this executive order, none of you would be against it, let's be real about that hahaha.

Maybe that's because Obama was considered to be a thoughtful President who had the country's best interests in mind, so they would give him the benefit of the doubt that his decision was the right thing to do. Contrast that with a capricious, narcissistic, egomaniacal man who has demonstrated his willingness to punish anyone who doesn't bow down to their knees in front of them. Hope that clears up the theoretical contradiction for you.
 
Trump should have done this long ago honestly. China bans many applications and US citizens from investing in China. Why shouldn’t we do the same?
Trump should ban all Chinese from China from buying real estate in the US also
not just us but other country also.
 
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