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Lets see: Farmers are tired of winning....US troops tired of winning....GM tired of winning.....Sears tired of winning...Kmart ....et al....this "boom" is as true as Santa Claus.
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Is it me, or is does it seem that this administration is actively trying to sabotage our economy?

I mean, what sense do these tariffs make? So far they've only caused problems. What is the end goal here?
Trump thinks China writes out a check for the Tariffs....does not believe US consumers pay...and no one can tell him the truth.
 
LOL, this is the guy Americans elected as their president?

I'm sure Apple isn't going to like this news... and especially if it actually get's implemented. Just imagine how high the prices would be for Apple products considered they're already insultingly high.
 
I’m not a fan or Trump’s tariffs but I get what he is trying to do. On the flip side there is great irony ripping Trump for the extra 10% while Apple takes home high gross margins off cheap labor. Yes, we can choose to buy Apple products. But Apple has built quite the mountain of an overpriced ecosystem.

I think we need to be equal on ripping. Trump and Cook both deserve it.
 
Is it me, or is does it seem that this administration is actively trying to sabotage our economy?

I mean, what sense do these tariffs make? So far they've only caused problems. What is the end goal here?

It's a redistribution of wealth, plain and simple. Trump feels trade wars are winnable wars, and while tariffs to combat unfair tariffs on our own goods is sometimes temporarily necessary, what Trump is doing is boldly idiotic.
 
Trump's steel tariffs is why GM just laid off everyone.

GM sucks. Always has. The American taxpayer should not have bailed out that pile of crap corporation. The fact that GM has as many brands as it does under the GM badge is beyond me. According to reports, the layoffs come as the company FINALLY re-pivots to electric... something the company actually did back in 1997 with the EV1 but then quietly quit. So much shame.

The CEO mentioned the Cruze, Impala and Volt are dead due to sales. These 3 vehicles look like turd and preform even worse. So much shame.

One thing I'd like to know is where the money went in the tax savings... if this CEO is taking a massive bonus this Christmas, this company needs to finally be punished. Moar shame.
 
It's amazing to hear Republicans who used to blame Obama for not creating jobs fast enough now speaking so highly of laying American workers off, farmers losing their crops and the steel industry taking such a big hit... just so we can to stick it to China. The American worker Conservatives once valued has become a pawn in Trump's game and they're all going along.

They aren't ALL going along. A lot of conservatives have been speaking out pretty clearly against Trump. Just sucks that in the world today saying you're a conservative makes everyone else go insane and call you a racist or Nazi because they hate Trump.
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You know, I was very surprised he did not blame Mary Barra. Given his abusive language toward women. If the Big Red Doughboy puts tariffs on Apple's devices I'll bet Tim stops his dinner meetings with Donnie. Tariffs are bad business. He could care less about the 14,000 people without a job. Just keep harping on low gas prices so Americans keep buying big SUV's. Oil drops below $55 a barrel and the US Frackers close up shop(not that I don't like that.) Americans never remember history. I'm so glad I have no grandchildren. This country is becoming unrecoverable. :apple:

We past the point of no return over a decade ago. The country is doomed. Whatever replaces it is to be determined but the world model of modern democracy is long gone.
 
Please no. Hollywood is exactly what we should not be going forward. The lack of ethics and morals in Hollywood should disturb everyone.

As opposed to the morals you find in places like the Oval Office or the church? Or maybe the ethics of "heartland Americans" who refuse to address things like their opioid issues, domestic abuse, and various types of assault? Perhaps follow the lead of that idiot missionary who decided to "bring Christ" to that poor island risking all of their lives with disease and getting himself killed, and his church now demanding a de facto invasion to impose American law? Maybe what would do everyone a world of good would be for all people to stop acting like they are above ANY group of others instead of all claiming some kind of high ground.
 
trump doesn't understand tariffs and who they effect This would not hurt China but Apple and the people who buy iPhones. If it helps anyone it helps Samsung who isn't a US company. What does he think this or other tariffs helps? Taxers only increase costs to the end consumer.
 
As opposed to the morals you find in places like the Oval Office or the church? Or maybe the ethics of "heartland Americans" who refuse to address things like their opioid issues, domestic abuse, and various types of assault?

Did I say any of those should be held up as examples of greatness? Don't do that. Hollywood is bad, naming other bad things doesn't make Hollywood less horrible for society. They have been actively bringing out the worst in society for a very long time.
 
Whew, I was sort of worrying Apple's prices were getting too low…

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trump doesn't understand tariffs and who they effect This would not hurt China but Apple and the people who buy iPhones. If it helps anyone it helps Samsung who isn't a US company. What does he think this or other tariffs helps? Taxers only increase costs to the end consumer.

This does hurt China. The problem is it also hurts the US.
 
And this is a big reason the stock is down recently.

I'm sure it has some affect but the main reasons are

1) Stories claiming that Apple cut iPhone production because of flagging sales.

2) Apple stating that they are no longer showing the number of unit sales in the quarterly reports. Investors used this metric to help determine how Apple is doing and the removal of the information gives the impression that something is wrong that Apple's trying to hide. From everything I read, this is the main factor in the stock going down.
 
I wish I could play poker with some of you MR posters. China has been screwing us because we were too afraid to call their bluffs. All you political gurus out there tell me how you would have gotten China to stop taking advantage of us.

I can't believe how gullible you all are. Trump threatened tariffs with Mexico. Do we have tariffs on Mexican goods? No. He threatened tariffs on Canada. And even made disparaging remarks about Canada. So what happened? We got a replacement for NAFTA that is much better for us.

China will sign a new trade deal that will be better for the US, but you can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs.
 
Is it me, or is does it seem that this administration is actively trying to sabotage our economy?

I mean, what sense do these tariffs make? So far they've only caused problems. What is the end goal here?

Larry Kudlow has convinced Trump he's an economist instead of what his is, an old man with a BA in History. When that brain drain is your economic counsel you know you're screwed.
 
They aren't ALL going along. A lot of conservatives have been speaking out pretty clearly against Trump. Just sucks that in the world today saying you're a conservative makes everyone else go insane and call you a racist or Nazi because they hate Trump.
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We past the point of no return over a decade ago. The country is doomed. Whatever replaces it is to be determined but the world model of modern democracy is long gone.
Fair point, there are those on the right who oppose him and we should rightfully not be putting them in the same category. Good for them, thanks for the correction.
 
Paying an extra 20% for your new phone is a great way to own the libs.
You know what is crazy about that last part of that sentence. Is i know a lot of ppl who are Trump supporters. Who will constantly support a policy that shoots them in the foot. Under the idea that at least they got to own the libs. Not knowing these policies sometimes are screwing these very ppl.
 
You know what is crazy about that last part of that sentence. Is i know a lot of ppl who are Trump supporters. Who will constantly support a policy that shoots them in the foot. Under the idea that at least they got to own the libs. Not knowing these policies sometimes are screwing these very ppl.

Wanting to enact policy that will hurt your neighbors because of their political views is beyond stupid. Good grief we have lost all sense of decency as a people.
 
This clown-crap of a President is intent on making sure every single one of us suffers for everything in our lives, isn't he. He's acting as if the United States is his own personal power-leverage tool and is willing to hurt all of its citizens just to make sure he can bully someone else on the world stage.
 
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