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When are people going to realise that Trump is a lying imbecile and the Republicans haven't historically been fantastic for the economy, at least certainly as far as the rank and file are concerned?
To be honest, Trump is literally a Republican in name only. He's not a conservative and he's nothing like former Republicans. He's a populist who ends up more or less moderate because of the pure chance of chaos. In other words, he's "moderate" because randomness trends towards something like a Gaussian distribution. He doesn't have any political ideology but if anything, he's more like the Democrats of the 1960s through 1980s (but more on the liberal end of that spectrum if you pay attention to some of his more persistent ideas).

Without any core political ideology, he's a chameleon. That could be positive if it was a ideologically-driven pragmatism, but his is more of a poll chasing and stock/bond market chasing pragmatism than anything else (and that's being generous about having any sort of goal). Add to this chaotic mix limited aptitude*, lack of understanding of laws, weak mental filter, and a likely personality disorder* and we have a president who is disconnected from reality. Although, some of how he acts and what he says is pure showmanship. It's thus difficult to know how much is 'acting' and how much is really him. None of that makes for a stable, predictable president.

*Without a formal assessment, I'm not going to diagnose
 
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If as a country you do not start building and manufacturing things and keep thinking you can be a services economy you will be in for a shock in a few years when inflation starts to get higher and higher and the dollar just gets more and more devalued. Countries like China have started dumping dollars.

Like Trump or not, he's doing that right thing wanting manufacturing back in your country from an economic point of view.
 
Cook doesn't ahve the back bone to do that.
Its not a matter of backbone. Trump holds all of the cards, and all of the power. In what scenerio does Cook come out a winner?

Who is this guy to tell Apple how to run their business?
The same person that is about destroy the local economy in Boston, by cutting 3 billion dollars in grants to Harvard and removing their not for profit status. Its very easy for the government to impose their will on businesses regardless of the legality or morality.
 
Trump how about Tim to tell you how to do your businesses , would you like it? Trump you promise to the world you have the power to end the Russia/Ukr war in 24h....you are just a business man with an Ego of a child in power
Careful Trump, you dont have the power over the world how Apple or Google has it
Information is power, and now, giant tech companies has more power than their own governments
 
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Wow.

Again shows how tenuous Trump's grasp on reality is…

Apple Inc aren't "building" anything anywhere.

They use Foxconn and Tata Electronics in India to manufacture iPhones.

Foxconn and Tata Electronics are the ones doing the building.

SMFH.

Anyway, Tim Cook, better get your wallet out again.
Look at how much Elon donated to trump and how trump treated him. Any more donations from Tim would be a waste.
 
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If as a country you do not start building and manufacturing things and keep thinking you can be a services economy you will be in for a shock in a few years when inflation starts to get higher and higher and the dollar just gets more and more devalued. Countries like China have started dumping dollars.

Like Trump or not, he's doing that right thing wanting manufacturing back in your country from an economic point of view.

The issue is whether consumers are willing to pay the price for that and the experience with locally manufactured products and their significantly higher prices are clear: most consumer would rather pay cheaper products manufactured abroad than more expensive products manufactured in the country.

So the government is trying to force consumers and companies to do something they don't want to do. That's not exactly how America is supposed to work as far as I understand.

Furthermore, IMHO manufacturing is definitely not the future for first world countries. Look at the agricultural industry: nowadays it has significantly higher output with only a small fraction of the people it employed before industrialization.

Agriculture is not going to employ a large fraction of the population in first world countries and it would be foolish to expect it would. Manufacturing is IMHO bound to head in the same direction.
 
Trump will destroy the global economy at this rate. He's the only one getting rich with his $400 million jets.

I could not believe that! He just didn't care about the optics of replacing Air Force one with a free plane from the Saudi's...

But he is playing with fire forcing Americans companies to do what he wants. Sure he has one gigantic ego but if he isn't careful the rest of the world may come knocking at his door and asking for its 30 plus trillion dollars back.... the global economy is bad enough as it is without Trumps efforts.
 
You do realize that Trump doesn't care about that. Just look at tariffs that were imposed upon china. He doesn't make idle threats
But he turns around and says we'll give 90 days to negotiate, which is a temporary get your products to market in 90 days and we'll start over again. There's allot more to all of this. Maybe Maralago trips should stop and conduct business in the open have all the cards laid out on the table. Have a pool to where the every day American ca sit at the negotiating table and give there input
 
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Yeah good luck with that one trump… if you tariff India further, you’ll cause American companies to struggle because we don’t have the techniques that China and India have…
But that is pretty bad in itself right ? Not just the USA but pretty much all of the western world (I’m in the uk).
 
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If as a country you do not start building and manufacturing things and keep thinking you can be a services economy you will be in for a shock in a few years when inflation starts to get higher and higher and the dollar just gets more and more devalued. Countries like China have started dumping dollars.

Like Trump or not, he's doing that right thing wanting manufacturing back in your country from an economic point of view.
IMHO when we in the west started talking about us pivoting to a services economy this was really a cover for globalisation.

The shipping out of manufacturing jobs to the developing world was really just about improving the margins of big corporations.

And then everyone is surprised when people across the west, who live in former industrial strongholds which are now hollowed out, start voting for populists.
 
When are people going to realise that Trump is a lying imbecile and the Republicans haven't historically been fantastic for the economy, at least certainly as far as the rank and file are concerned?
Good luck with that. Plenty was already known about him after his first administration as well as his criminal convictions along with all the warning signs out there for everyone to see and enough Americans still voted him back in.

Don't worry folks. Just 3.5 more years of this utter nonsense and then hopefully back to some semblance of normality.
Thats assuming you still have elections by then.
 
If as a country you do not start building and manufacturing things and keep thinking you can be a services economy you will be in for a shock in a few years when inflation starts to get higher and higher and the dollar just gets more and more devalued. Countries like China have started dumping dollars.

Like Trump or not, he's doing that right thing wanting manufacturing back in your country from an economic point of view.
I disagree. If the goal is genuinely to rejuvenate domestic manufacturing, the strategy must be grounded in long-term planning and bipartisan support. Tariffs alone are insufficient; they should be part of a comprehensive, structured plan that provides clarity and predictability for businesses. And even if some other tools came in, unpredictable tariff fluctuations create uncertainty, making it challenging for companies to develop viable business plans.

Both for current manufacturers who rely on imported goods and for potential manufacturers who rely on potential demand for their domestic production.

Moreover, financial institutions and local governments require stability to offer support. Banks are more likely to provide loans when there’s confidence in the market’s direction, and municipalities are more inclined to offer land or infrastructure incentives when they believe in the long-term viability of manufacturing projects.

And same goes for people. Job market, education, it's all needed for anything to happen. I won't rather get into where you even get the people.
 
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I only read about dictators/fascism in textbooks. Never would I think I would experience one in realtime.

It's honestly a bit fascinating (but mostly sad) how a person can consolidate power like this. Lies, populism, purge enemies internally, threats, violence, ignore laws once power is consolidated, etc. I only read about this stuff in history books.
Yeah, Putin's terrible, isn't he? Oh, wait, you mean ...
 
Trump the “King” has spoken. He thinks he can decree anyone to do whatever he wants on a whim.
Absolutely this. America now has a King.

All policies are centred on his and his dukes well being, not the people!

He’ll not go quietly that’s for sure
 
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I only read about dictators/fascism in textbooks. Never would I think I would experience one in realtime.

It's honestly a bit fascinating (but mostly sad) how a person can consolidate power like this. Lies, populism, purge enemies internally, threats, violence, ignore laws once power is consolidated, etc. I only read about this stuff in history books.
Whats shocking is how fast he is undoing everything within the U.S. and trashed America’s standing in the world. 250 years to build everything up and three months to tear it all down. And so much damage has already been done that even reversing course now would still take years or decades, if ever, to repair everything. Some things will never be repaired or regained. A civilized society requires certainty and honour that everyone agrees to play by the same rules—without that there is nothing but chaos.

The one thing Trump said people should have taken at his word is when he said he would be dictator on day one. And here you are, the only promise he has ever kept.
 
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