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Apr 12, 2001

U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday said he plans to impose tariffs of 25 percent on imported steel and 10 percent on imported aluminum to protect domestic producers. Trump is expected to sign the formal order next week, and he promised that it will remain in effect for a "long period of time."


The controversial plan would almost certainly apply to Apple products like iPhones, iPads, and Macs, which contain a significant amount of the metals. The latest 15-inch MacBook Pro contains 740 grams of aluminum, for example, while the iPhone X contains 58 grams of stainless steel for its frame.

The details of Trump's plan aren't fully clear yet, however, according to Bloomberg News. If the tariffs only apply to raw materials, for instance, then Apple would be largely unaffected since the majority of its devices are assembled in Asia and shipped to the United States as finished products.

If the duties do apply to finished products, analyst Gene Munster speculated Apple's costs to make Macs and iPhones could rise as much as 0.2 percent, assuming the tax is a percentage of the steel and aluminum used in the devices.

Apple's domestic manufacturing is limited to the Mac Pro, assembled in Austin, Texas. The high-end computer contains 3,660 grams of aluminum and steel imported from outside of the United States, making it subject to the proposed tariffs. However, the Mac Pro is only produced in limited quantities.

The biggest question is whether the impact on Apple's profit margins would lead the company to raise the prices of Macs and iPhones, but given the company's costs are only estimated see a marginal increase, it would seem unlikely.

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Article Link: Trump's Planned Tariffs on Imported Steel and Aluminum Would Likely Apply to Apple Products

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macrumors G5
Jul 16, 2002
The biggest question is whether the impact on Apple's profit margins would lead the company to raise the prices of Macs and iPhones, but given the company's costs are only estimated see a marginal increase, it would seem unlikely.

I'm not a fan of tariffs, this one included. Like others I think (hope) it's just a hardball negotiation ploy. That said, it's not a big question. There isn't enough aluminum or steel in an Apple Watch to increase the raw cost more than a couple bucks. Given Apple's already juicy profit margin here and also competition, no, they are not going to raise prices $5 to offset the increased cost should that happen and Apple chose not to source U.S. materials.

The effect of the tariff will be borne more on companies than consumers. The Fed's 3 or 4 rate hikes will hurt consumers more than this by far.
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macrumors 603
Aug 19, 2017
Surely it would only apply to the Mac Pro being made in Texas? I doubt they would tax a finished products for the materials it contains...
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macrumors 6502
Jun 12, 2008
For some, I guess it's OK if other countries like China tax the hell out of our steel, yet expect us to import theirs duty free. This kind of one-sided nonsense has to end. The US should match the tariff rate off each country that we do business with. That's the best way to encourage free trade. They get the same deal they give us.

And shame on Apple for using imported steel for the Mac Pro, when they could buy locally. That's going to end,


macrumors 6502
Sep 23, 2015
Not to get into a political push, not too far from that industry...there is of course good and bad in this. However, aside of his trade wars or what ever this will mean. There is truth in the overwhelming negative trade and tariffs that are imposed on our corp for example. Without using names; we import specific products that are pretty much a win for a partner...however when we try or have tried to reverse or sell back complete products back to them we are hit with 2-5x the mount of protective taxes of that nation. We always talk about it, it is an on going issues. How its to be dealt with who knows, and probably this isn't the answer, but a more fair trade does need to be addressed.

Thats as far as I can go in personal experience, however...someone else probably gets a decent perk that we dont know about that was the trade off. Who knows...


macrumors 65816
Mar 9, 2009
Congratulations Trumpers, you played yourself.

Sorry kids, but if you can't compete with other countries fairly, you don't deserve to stay in business. There's no faking it in economics. If you try to fake it by protecting bad unprofitable industries, you end up like Venezuela.

The goal of economics should always be efficiency. If that means letting a Chinese person do something because they can do the same thing for cheaper, LET THEM. Americans will find something else to do that takes advantage of their skills.

If you think a person in China is your competition, then you have already lost.


macrumors 65816
Apr 10, 2015
Trump badly needs to raise taxes to offset his tax cuts and spending. Here is the answer, Tariffs. Terriffs are taxes with a different label. Trump said exactly the same. We the people or the manufacturer pay this tax on the Tarriff applied goods. Cleaver!


Jul 10, 2008
"Will likely"? It will apply to everyone using those products. The price of beer will be increasing because of it.
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