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Why should you need ID to fly at all? I can get on a city bus and pay $2 without showing anything, I can board a ferry for a bit more money and not show ID. I can board a train the same way. We have built expensive infrastructure for no reason at all except to create a make-work system.
 
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I don’t feel this will transform anything compared to ApplePay. Especially at airports. This will actually slow things down potentially. Instead of having your digital boarding pass up and ready, you would have to have the digital ID up, then switch apps to your digital boarding pass. While I love the idea behind it, I just don’t see implementation being an improvement.
Depending on the airport you don’t need the boarding pass anymore unless you have PreCheck. Reason being is they want to see if you qualify for PreCheck in the first place.
 
Keep in mind, if there is a return flight from a state that does not offer this, you still need a physical license. This will take years to implement, but even then is it really worth it? You still need a physical ID for so many other things.
You have to start somewhere. It may take a while, but it would be nice if digital IDs become the norm in the US in a decade.
 
The REAL ID is not going away.

Evolving the REAL ID into a electronic version with the ability to report in real time your exact GPS coordinates will give it the teeth the powers that be are looking for as a means to more efficiently monitor its citizens aka subjects and more effectively control where people can and cannot go.

The REAL ID goes way beyond who can get on an airplane. It will take geofencing to a whole new level.
What I mean is, do I need to go to the DMV again to get it or can I just install this at home ?
I've been putting it off, just hoping they get rid of it or something, because they keep delaying it anyway.
 
YES, Georgia in first wave.

Shocked not to see California, Texas and New York on the list. Especially California.
 
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Why should you need ID to fly at all? I can get on a city bus and pay $2 without showing anything, I can board a ferry for a bit more money and not show ID. I can board a train the same way. We have built expensive infrastructure for no reason at all except to create a make-work system.
My guess would be that the TSA need to check your name against no fly list because TERRORISTS!!!!!
 
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What I mean is, do I need to go to the DMV again to get it or can I just install this at home ?
I've been putting it off, just hoping they get rid of it or something, because they keep delaying it anyway.
To register for the REAL ID you are required to go in person.

You will need to provide a birth certificate, records of residency (credit card statements, mortgage statement, etc...) Requirements vary slightly from state to state.

The ability to add your REAL ID drivers license to the Apple Wallet does not take the place of the above process.
 
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Starting in early 2022, residents of select U.S. states will be able to add their driver's license or state ID to the Wallet app on the iPhone and Apple Watch, providing a convenient and contactless way to display proof of identity or age.

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According to a Security Technology Alliance blog post shared by 9to5Mac, the TSA plans to begin accepting mobile driver's licenses at airports in two U.S. states starting in February 2022, followed by an additional two states around March. The TSA did not specify which states or airports will be part of this initial rollout, and it's unclear if Wallet app integration will be ready in time or if digital IDs will be limited to states' own apps at first.

In September, Apple revealed the first states that would let residents add their driver's license or state ID to the Wallet app as including Arizona and Georgia, with Connecticut, Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland, Oklahoma, and Utah to follow. Florida is also reportedly aiming to support the feature, while the Security Technology Alliance said several other states like Virginia and Louisiana have piloted mobile driver's license usage.

Residents of participating states will be able to tap the plus sign at the top of the Wallet app to begin adding a driver's license or state ID to the app, and then simply tap their iPhone or Apple Watch on an identity reader to present their ID at select TSA security checkpoints, without taking out their physical card or handing over their device.

Only after authorizing with Face ID or Touch ID is the requested identity information released from a user's device, and they do not need to unlock, show, or hand over their device to a TSA security officer to present their ID, according to Apple.

When adding an ID to the Wallet app, Apple said users will be required to take a photo of their face, which will be securely provided to the issuing state for verification. As an additional security measure, Apple said users will be prompted to complete a series of facial and head movements during the setup process.

Apple has not provided a specific release date for the feature beyond the early 2022 timeframe, and it is not enabled in the first iOS 15.3 or watchOS 8.4 betas. The feature was supposed to launch this year, but it was delayed.

Article Link: TSA Preparing to Begin Accepting Mobile Driver's Licenses in February 2022
This seems really good, but I am here in the UK and A)It will probably take forever to come to the UK (We still don't have Apple Cash) and B) the amount of times I have tired to use some form of well known, proven digital identity app like Yoti places just don't seem to want to accept it.
 
“Preparing to Begin Accepting…”

To be more clear, why don’t you add another verb to that sentence. 3 isn‘t quite enough.
 
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TSA is Federal. So.. if TSA accepts it in one airport, they accept it in all.
Not according to this article. It says airports in two states will begin using it. Article is very clear. So again to my original point, you leave one of the two participating states just fine but when flying round trip back from a non participating state, what do you do?? You have to have the physical ID.
 
You have to start somewhere. It may take a while, but it would be nice if digital IDs become the norm in the US in a decade.
In the time it takes to implement and become mainstream it will be supplanted by direct facial recognition at all points along the way, with no physical/digital ID needed. Already I've boarded flights based just on facial scan matched to uploaded passport w/photo at the boarding pass check.
 
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Why should you need ID to fly at all? I can get on a city bus and pay $2 without showing anything, I can board a ferry for a bit more money and not show ID. I can board a train the same way. We have built expensive infrastructure for no reason at all except to create a make-work system.
Many transit systems no longer accept cash--credit card only.
 
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“Preparing to Begin Accepting…”

To be more clear, why don’t you add another verb to that sentence. 3 isn‘t quite enough.
They will start beginning to commence launching to be readying to introduce the kickoff to initiate...wait what was I talking about?
 
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To register for the REAL ID you are required to go in person.

You will need to provide a birth certificate, records of residency (credit card statements, mortgage statement, etc...) Requirements vary slightly from state to state.

The ability to add your REAL ID drivers license to the Apple Wallet does not take the place of the above process.
Thanks. Uh, I'm not gonna do that. Worst case I'll have to carry my passport around.
 
It was cool that CO was ahead of the pack with this but I really didn't like the solution they used with the app ID. Instead of your ID being in Apple Wallet, you had to boot up a separate app that was prone to forget your login credentials.
Face ID works with the MyColorado app, no need to enter credentials after setting it up. App is a bit of a hassle over using wallet, but not by much.
 
Thanks. Uh, I'm not gonna do that. Worst case I'll have to carry my passport around.
Unfortunately it is a law that was allowed to pass that requires everyone to have it.

The REAL ID has little to do with travel and more about granting and denying access.

There are already facilities that require REAL ID verification for gaining access. Even hospitals will require it for access into their buildings.
 
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supplanted by direct facial recognition
That.

Unfortunately this world is looking more and more like a bad Sci-fi movie.

It’s unfortunate that corrupt people find a way to tarnish beneficial technology.

I still recall a time when my email inbox was free from spam.
 
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