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Sounds like you don't need it just yet, and can wait. If you can't you'll just get what's available right now. Most of us have been there - "should I get it now, or wait for the next update". Personally, I'm waiting for the next mini and will order it the day it will be available. Hoping it will get released this year.

Technically I can wait yes, but do I really want to wait another five months...
 
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iPad, iPad 2, iPad w/ Retina (3), iPad w/ Retina (revised, 4), iPad Air, Air 2?


It is the sixth iteration of the iPad product line, despite being rebranded twice:

iPad, iPad 2 -> (Rebranded) -> iPad with Retina Display (iPad 3), iPad with Retina Display (iPad 4) -> (Rebranded) -> iPad Air (iPad 5), iPad Air (2014) (iPad 6)
 
As long as iOS doesn't offer multiple user accounts, it makes it more of a one person device leading people to buy more than one. IMO, multiple user accounts would be great for the consumer but may cost Apple sales.

We have 1 iPad (iPad2) for the whole household.
I might have upgraded sooner if there was a Multi-User Account iPad.

I've thought about buying another iPad for another person in the house but then thought we share just fine as is. if there was a multi-user version. I would buy a larger (than 16gb) iPad and have a section for my son so he can only do certain things. and then for my wife and I we could use it to the fullest or perhaps have certain apps set in certain ways or once you log-in, user-based apps are signed in with your credentials. (Facebook, Pinterest, Mail, etc.) AND with User Accounts I'd buy the larger/est size so we could all have our stuff within and and ready to go (like Mail downloading for each of us in separate Mail Apps.
 
Apple really needs to re-think how they name things. Reminds me of intel cpu chips how they also moved from numeric/alpha to alpha/numeric.

Its standing to be getting a non contiguous world.

Now that Touch ID has made its way to the iPhone 5s, (I'm happy with mine), its just another useful technology Apple just must go crazy and build into all future mobile products.

This just proves the point.

You would think Apple would be rational about this like "If you want Touch ID, get an iPhone 5s "make it unique so it sets it apart from the rest" like Retina on the Macbook Pro's.

However, now-days, doesn't really matter... Just wait a year, or two, and Touch ID, or Retina will be available on every device basically. Give or take one product.

There is no *uniqueness* anymore.

Yep, their naming schemes are getting progressively worse. I mean honestly, why do they need to call the iPad Mini (with Retina) "iPad Mini with Retina Display"? They don't call the iPad Air "iPad Air with Retina". iPad 4 HAS Retina and that's what it's called but nobody would think the iPad Air has it since it's not called iPad Air with Retina. Very confusing.
 
I've had every iPhone and the first iPad. Never used passcodes (well, temporarily a few years ago).

But with the 5S, getting into the phone is sooooo easy with TouchID. It makes it secure and it's still just as easy to get into the phone. It's actually easier.

I can unlock my phone with the screen off.

I know that, but do you know whats easier than touch id? Opening a smart cover. You lift it and you're in, simple as that. I have nothing to hide on my ipad so i dont need a lock.
 
As long as iOS doesn't offer multiple user accounts, it makes it more of a one person device leading people to buy more than one. IMO, multiple user accounts would be great for the consumer but may cost Apple sales.

Since we're talking hypothetical: It also drives those who can't survive without a multiple user account on a tablet to Android or Windows. I wonder what makes more sense for people - buying multiple devices or buying a single device that matches that what they think they need?
 
And this is news becaussseeeee?

#slownewsday

It's a news supporting the rumours (not facts, that seems to confuse some) that touch ID will be included in the new iPads as well. I personally find that pretty interesting.

#somefinditinterestingnewsday
 
Since we're talking hypothetical: It also drives those who can't survive without a multiple user account on a tablet to Android or Windows. I wonder what makes more sense for people - buying multiple devices or buying a single device that matches that what they think they need?

Other than cost, multiple devices should be the easiest way to keep everyone happy. I wonder how many people didn't buy an iPad because of no multiple user accounts? My guess is a very small number, but that's what it is, a guess. I still rarely see Windows or Android tablets out in the wild.
 
Technically I can wait yes, but do I really want to wait another five months...

Man tell me about it. I have been on an iPhone 4 for years, it feels ancient. My upgrade comes around in June, but I am not sure whether to tough it out for 3 or 4 more months or to bite the bullet and just upgrade to a 5s.
 
The fingerprint sensor use should be expanded to eliminate all passwords for everything, not just for the purchase of $1.29 songs.
 
I'm still not seeing the value of a fingerprint sensor on an iPad.

When ever Apple lets multiple Apple ID's on an iPad, it'd be a great way to let different users switch between profiles easily. Even an easy way to have your kids activate their own mode of the tablet or phone by letting them unlock it with their fingerprint.

Not to mention an added level of security for people who bring iPads with them as a BYOD for work.

Not that hard to see the value in that.
 
I know that, but do you know whats easier than touch id? Opening a smart cover. You lift it and you're in, simple as that. I have nothing to hide on my ipad so i dont need a lock.

You may have nothing to hide, but you have stuff to lose...

It would be nice if I could JUST have TouchID with no passcode. The passcode shouldn't be mandatory. If it was solely my fingerprint then only MYSELF can get into my devices.
 
You may have nothing to hide, but you have stuff to lose...

It would be nice if I could JUST have TouchID with no passcode. The passcode shouldn't be mandatory. If it was solely my fingerprint then only MYSELF can get into my devices.

true but what happens when you cut your finger or something and are unable to get into your phone? hopefully as touch id evolves so will how it is used, right now it is more of a convenient shortcut to having to enter a password. a different backup should be used instead of the normal passcode.
 
Other than cost, multiple devices should be the easiest way to keep everyone happy. I wonder how many people didn't buy an iPad because of no multiple user accounts? My guess is a very small number, but that's what it is, a guess. I still rarely see Windows or Android tablets out in the wild.

Nobody knows. Just as nobody knows how many people spend an extra few thousand bucks on 4 or 5 iPads because of no multiple user accounts. While some may consider it to be user-friendly of Apple to implement multi-user accounts the lack of it doesn't appear to be hurting it's business then, same goes for "features" like stylus, USB-port, root access etc. .

As for Windows or Android tablets - going by the market share statistics at least Android tablets should be all over the place, going by friends and family I rarely see something else than iPads, just out of my head I'd say a 15:2:0(MS) ratio, although most of our friends are a "certain crowd" ;) . And then there's the European market, which could appear to be the opposite, going by what some people say.
 
I'm still not seeing the value of a fingerprint sensor on an iPad.

Uhh, WHAT?
It's valuable for the same reason that it's valuable on a phone. It means that rather than going through the hassle of entering a PIN (which means most people will not bother, which means most people then can't take advantage of passwords stored on iCloud) people can use the fingerprint sensor with all the ease of the phone.

Also, the sooner the whole lineup has fingerprint sensors, the sooner new UI modalities are possible. In particular, one could imagine a quick slide of the finger across the home button (which could be tracked by the electronics that do the finger print recognition) could replace or augment the button click gesture. That seems small, but part of what make iOS work well is using very few gestures, but consistently so that each gesture becomes extremely powerful.

The one "problem" on iPads is that many people are used to the device opening when you open the cover. I'm not sure how you easily keep that nice functionality while still retaining security. The sledgehammer approach is to make the entire damn cover a fingerprint recognizer, so that it detects whatever part of the hand is picking it up to open. That's presumably not practical today, at the very least for cost reasons. Maybe you could build a fingerprint recognizer on the cover as well, so that you can fairly naturally place a finger on it as you open the cover? But even that is not trivial because now you need a way to communicate that information from the cover to the iPad, and a way to feed enough power into the cover to run the fingerprint electronics.
I'm not sure how Apple will deal with this. But I have to say, as a user, that I do want it all. I very much like having a secured iPad; but I also don't want the hassle of a PIN; and I ALSO like being able to just open the cover and the device is ready to work without any further "logging in".
 
true but what happens when you cut your finger or something and are unable to get into your phone? hopefully as touch id evolves so will how it is used, right now it is more of a convenient shortcut to having to enter a password. a different backup should be used instead of the normal passcode.

that's why you can setup 5 fingerprints ;)

man different backup would be nice tho
 
It is the sixth iteration of the iPad product line, despite being rebranded twice:

iPad, iPad 2 -> (Rebranded) -> iPad with Retina Display (iPad 3), iPad with Retina Display (iPad 4) -> (Rebranded) -> iPad Air (iPad 5), iPad Air (2014) (iPad 6)

Apparently I can't count.

Sorry.


...today hasn't been a good day...
 
It has to be a compromise between screen size, device size, weight and battery life. On top of that you can compromise in thickness instead of height/width.

But those are not the variables you gave in your initial post. The choices you offered were bigger screen or longer battery life.
 
But those are not the variables you gave in your initial post. The choices you offered were bigger screen or longer battery life.

I explained myself not clearly enough: assuming a larger screen, I'd rather have a small-bezel device with less battery than a large-bezel device with more battery. This doesn't mean less battery compared to the current iPhone: a larger screen model would be likely larger than the current iPhone even with smaller bezels.
 
If they release an iPad Air with TouchID and 2GB ram, I will literally be throwing money at them!

The second version of any Apple product is always the no-compromise version, i.e. iPad2, iPad4, ??? They always get it wrong first time out.
 
Ugh, why did I have to read this....

Just when I was finally leaning towards buying a 32gb Air as an upgrade for my iPad 2, now I'm thinking I should hold out again....

Dude. It's been 6-7 months since the air was released. What did you expect?
 
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