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One feature that should result in a better experience is the support for the Focus Engine in SpriteKit. This means that any SpriteKit devs will be able to use the Apple provided focus handling rather than rolling their own, this will be both quicker for the developer and more consistent for the user.
 
They should do something about the awful remote. SO badly designed. I always skip ahead by accident. The two other people I know who use the remote hate it with a passion.

Thanks Tim for failing to design a simple remote
Before I returned my 4th generation for a refund (within 2 weeks) I went back to using the old aluminium remote, do that.
 
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It amazed me that dark mode took this long. I can't believe everyone at Apple thought bright white was a great idea for a TV menu. Dark mode should be the default. Lights are off you just finished watching a show and BAM! The room is filled with light and you are all blinded.

A bit dramatic but still. Do they really not have someone like Scott Forstall to tell them obvious design choices?
Finally? This Apple TV has only been out since october and they are adding this because people want a choice to choose white or black. I don't really think 7 months is long to add it. Not like its been years like typical apple. Some people like the white some like the black...Im glad they are giving the option.
 
I wonder what's next for the AppleTV? Possible wish list:
  • Picture in picture. A couple folks have mentioned that. That'd be cool.
  • New hardware with an updated remote (that's not symmetrical)?
  • A tv equivalent of Beats1. Maybe like a PBS that you can just tune into live on and not worry about choosing something. Just decent quality shows always on. With an option to stream shows Netflix style right after they've aired. Maybe a "what's new on the App Store" review show. Make Keynotes live on this channel. A music show with Beats1 interviews and live performances. There is something still appealing about appointment tv; a shared experience of everyone watching something at the same time. Wouldn't be crazy to mix that with watching right after like cable boxes do (but with better UI/UX)
  • A Netflix competitor (though I wonder with Apple's very sanitized culture and global reach if they'd be able to do very good shows. Game of Thrones or Daredevil probably wouldn't have happened on an Apple Netflix).
  • Buying channels a la carte (the dream that the networks weren't going for).
  • An Apple-made game controller (to prove they're serious about games)
  • An Apple in-house game studio to create or publish games (like Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo have for their consoles — to prove they're *really* serious about games)
Anything else?
 
Finally? This Apple TV has only been out since october and they are adding this because people want a choice to choose white or black. I don't really think 7 months is long to add it. Not like its been years like typical apple. Some people like the white some like the black...Im glad they are giving the option.

7 months is way too long for such an obviouse blunder. If everyone puts the kool-aid down for a second and thinks about it....not having both available at the same time quite was an armature mistake for a company making TV interfaces since the 1993. Its even more idiotic to call it something like "dark mode". Its like trying to hype a feature that does nothing more than correct a poor decision. If you want to blind yourself with bright white menus...be my guest. The rest of us prefer not to be. 99.9% of TV interfaces are dark or use specific colors to keep your eyes from being driven crazy...there is a science to it. This is just another case of Apple thinking it knows best for its users without any consideration to the facts.
 
Go for it MR, now's your golden chance to find negativity in this. You get prompted on your iPhone? That's just Apple trying to sell iPhones. Dark mode? That's Apple trying to not appear racist. Typical liberals. New remote app? That's another way of saying the old app sucks. Come on, let's view life though negative lens. It's the MR way!

Apple is using siri because the remote control is beyond useless. I watch free movies on line in pirate sites and their interfaces are super easy to navigate. In this case apple created the problem and then their solution that is no more than trying to catch up with other companies. Talking to the tv... buah.

Like that?
 
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Hopefully you can search iTunes by price, that's how i buy stuff, as in show me all films to buy under $/£5 etc, I'm miffed that wasn't there from day 1!

You should be ashamed of yourself. Everyone knows Apple buying people are arrogance and gaudy with their spending on any and all apple products.
 
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Great! Still no Siri search for all your movies in your iTunes Library. When will this ever happened?
 
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Go for it MR, now's your golden chance to find negativity in this. You get prompted on your iPhone? That's just Apple trying to sell iPhones. Dark mode? That's Apple trying to not appear racist. Typical liberals. New remote app? That's another way of saying the old app sucks. Come on, let's view life though negative lens. It's the MR way!

Thanks for this. ;)

I can't even read the comments anymore. So much complaining.
 
My Apple TV is now just for playing iTunes purchases. As an app platform it's frankly a dead platform. My PS4 has a better selection of apps (I'm talking big providers here, not fireplace apps and other detritus) and crucially apps are just better on the PS4. Why, for example, is YouTube so awful on the Apple TV? It looks like an MS-DOS programme from the 1980s. Even Netflix is worse on the ATV than on the PS4, and as for Now TV (somewhat akin to a UK version of HBO NOW), well the Now TV is beyond abysmal. It's almost unusable, whilst the PS4 version is galaxies ahead in every way.

And as a Brit the poor iPlayer app on the ATV is the final straw. The iPlayer app on £30 Roku stick is miles better.

Oh and Siri search is still US only, except for Netflix and iTunes. It can't search any of the (small selection) of UK apps on the ATV. Farcical.
 
Go for it MR, now's your golden chance to find negativity in this. You get prompted on your iPhone? That's just Apple trying to sell iPhones. Dark mode? That's Apple trying to not appear racist. Typical liberals. New remote app? That's another way of saying the old app sucks. Come on, let's view life though negative lens. It's the MR way!

You should stop complaining about the complainers.

How you can tell you're on MR: Complaining about complaining about complainers.

For the record, I'm not complaining at all -- just observing. ☺
 
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I don't wanna read through all the comments to see if anyone responded, ha. Did you find it?
i just use an iPhone dock and seems to work nice.

They should do something about the awful remote. SO badly designed. I always skip ahead by accident. The two other people I know who use the remote hate it with a passion.

Thanks Tim for failing to design a simple remote

they updated the software to prevent this now.....its not that bad.
 
This is cool and all, but I think people will soon realize they just need to use their TV as their computer monitor and not have to deal with the ******** and restrictions of the apple tv.
 
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Barely anyone uses the Sony tv service, and the providers knew that which is why they went into a deal with Sony - and its relatively expensive. If apple does it, they want it at $40 or under and the entire industry will never be the same. It's the providers and content holders nobody else

Content still sucks.

I don't get how Sony Playstation can offer subscription tv but Apple can't??

It's 2016 what are you waiting for Tim Cook?!

:mad::mad::mad:
 
Tvos to me the pinnacle of shallow thought and implementation… So much hype and buzz for years( not months but years).. So much potential and yet some obviouse and basic navigational and content orginazitional tools are ommited and missing….. Rendering content orginazation and followup a fragmented experiance between individual apps with no centralization…
No way to organize and consolidate favorites from different apps in central interap folders ….no centralized reminders for new content of interest ..
I have to memorize and remember what content i have liked in each app and then individually scan each app to get to them.. That is if i remember!?
Why?
My Jurassic dvr/cable box does a better job of letting me organize and centralize my favorite stuff and does a better job of reminding me of new content .

The database is there.. Tags are there.. Why not allow centralization… Whats the benifit of the fragmanted experience? None imo .


Siri is getting better but it does not address the above consolidation and centralization issue.
 
Where can I get one of those remote control holders????

Yay
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your personal collection?
 
My Apple TV is now just for playing iTunes purchases. As an app platform it's frankly a dead platform. My PS4 has a better selection of apps (I'm talking big providers here, not fireplace apps and other detritus) and crucially apps are just better on the PS4. Why, for example, is YouTube so awful on the Apple TV? It looks like an MS-DOS programme from the 1980s. Even Netflix is worse on the ATV than on the PS4, and as for Now TV (somewhat akin to a UK version of HBO NOW), well the Now TV is beyond abysmal. It's almost unusable, whilst the PS4 version is galaxies ahead in every way.

And as a Brit the poor iPlayer app on the ATV is the final straw. The iPlayer app on £30 Roku stick is miles better.

Oh and Siri search is still US only, except for Netflix and iTunes. It can't search any of the (small selection) of UK apps on the ATV. Farcical.
So you have a £129 iTunes purchase player? Seems a waste. Why wouldn't you have returned it if you felt this way?

I feel quite differently about it (the reason why I haven't returned it). YouTube is just fine, especially since you can search with dictation now. Netflix works great and looks similar to any other smart tv app... etc. But I guarantee its not a dead platform. Maybe it is for you but trust me, its not dead for the millions that are using it.

I would just recommend you stick with what you like and save your time and money.
 
Would be great if Apple enabled HomeKit support with Apple TV so for instance of you were pulling into your driveway you could ask Siri to turn on the TV to whichever channel and have it be ready to watch when you walk in

This I'm waiting for. But not all tv's can be powered on via HDMI.
 
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Barely anyone uses the Sony tv service, and the providers knew that which is why they went into a deal with Sony - and its relatively expensive. If apple does it, they want it at $40 or under and the entire industry will never be the same. It's the providers and content holders nobody else

Or it could be that Sony doesn't demand such a big share of the revenue (aka 30% right off the top). Apple appears to put margin first. If they can't get their margin, not much happens. I suspect the other players aren't as demanding and thus deals get done.

And I don't blame the various players for wanting to make as much as they can from their products too, instead of just cut their own throats to further enrich Apple. Apple has the cash to outbid pretty much any competition so that they end up with content (and the content owners/makers can get paid what they want to make too). Does that happen? No.

Every time there's a rumor about some television prize, Apple doesn't even appear to compete with other bidders. Remember Thursday Night Football? NFL Sunday Ticket? How about the huge Disney exclusive Starzz outbid Netflix to take? How about the Time Warner library? Apple certainly has the cash to compete with others bidding for the content. Why don't they end up with all or at least some of that? Hint: it's not that the content owners/makers don't want distribution deals. Another hint: They do want to maximize their profits too.

Somehow relatively tiny Roku gets content deals done without the mountain of cash that Apple hoards. How do they do that? Why can't Apple do what Roku does? Hint: again, it's not that the content owners want to turn away profitable distribution deals.

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This I'm waiting for. But not all tv's can be powered on via HDMI.

IR blasters (or repeaters)- the same tech that allows an AV equipment stack to be stored in a closet (outside of line of sight). Some remotes can send their signals via radio waves up to a couple hundred feet. I suppose if one put one of those in their car they could turn on their TV and anything else via IR as they pull up to the home. There's probably IR blasters that work with wifi for remote on-off (yep, here's one: http://www.smarthome.com/global-cache-wf2ir-itach-wi-fi-to-ir.html apparently this one even has a Watch app too). If so, that could very closely approximate this wish without any dependency on HDMI.
 
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I guess iOS 10 requires using curtains for dark mode.

And dark mode in iOS 11 will require the latest iPhone with OLED/mLED.
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It amazed me that dark mode took this long. I can't believe everyone at Apple thought bright white was a great idea for a TV menu. Dark mode should be the default. Lights are off you just finished watching a show and BAM! The room is filled with light and you are all blinded.

A bit dramatic but still. Do they really not have someone like Scott Forstall to tell them obvious design choices?

Yeah, another example of those small, but important details that keep eluding Apple's development teams with some of their products. I want to imagine an alternative world where Steve is sitting down in a dark room, turns on the 4th generation Apple TV and then turning toward the Apple TV team members says the following: Thanks for lighting up the room for me.
 
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