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tvOS 11.2 beta
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you need to be in the developer program - the public beta will hit either tomorrow or Wednesday
Truley surprised Apple actually did this and backtracked on their smooth user interface priority. This is fantastic! I’m wondering if they just couldn’t get SDR to HDR conversion to look right which doesn’t surprise me.
Is your tv 4k ?
I don’t understand this , if you turn this setting on and you watch a 1080p movie in Netflix , the tv will change resolution from 4k to 1080p
But why would you want that ?
Because most 4k tv’s have really good upscalers and will do a better job than the Apple TV.
Because I want to watch the movie as close as possible to how the director intended it. It it was released in 1080p, and 1080p is the highest quality available, then I want to watch it in 1080p.
It's like, if you had a 128kbps MP3, what would be the point of converting it to a 320kbps MP3 before listening to it? You're adding nothing, and potentially making it worse.
But your tv will be displaying the image at the resolution of the screen. If your tv is a 4k panel it will be converting the image to 4k
No way! The director did not intend for it to stay in 1080p. If it was shot on film then he won't even of considered TV AND nowadays all sport film documentaries are shot on 8K Phantom or 8K RED cameras. Heck, even Hollywood is shooting on RED!!!
I really don't believe 'how the artist intended BS - for over 40 years the UK and Europe have had their films from Hollywood speeded up 4%. Now you try on a 1210 or CDJ speeded up a track to 4% - it's a totally different direction!!!
Plus my DVDs from 10 years ago are truly oversaturated when compared to iTunes HD so the director has lost something on the way here!
The automatic switching really runs well with my LG B6.
Very good job Apple.
Very good job Apple.
Here's the video...
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Seriously great news. Now practically every ATV user should be really happy especially with Atmos on its way.
Nah I’ve done it before, it’s on my ATV 4. Just hadn’t done it to my 4K. I just need a url.
Totally, yea. This is a huge improvement.
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No, it won't be converting it if I turn off the automatic upscaling feature. If the input signal is 1080p, it is displaying 1080p. It just happens to be using 4 physical pixels for each data pixel, in that scenario.
Right, I used the wrong turn of phrase. I meant to say, I want to stay as close to source material as possible.
Any kind of conversion or processing never does anything good. At best, the output is as good as the input. At worst, the quality is noticeably degraded. Usually, somewhere in between. Processing can't add information that isn't there. In other words, the only way I will "upgrade" a movie or tv show is to obtain in a better source material.
If it is a DVD, I want to play it in DVD quality - no resolution up-converting, no motion interpolation, no fake HDR, none of that nonsense. Same applies to audio, I won't turn on fake surround sound effects or anything like that. If that movie later comes out in 1080p, awesome, I'll watch that source. If it becomes available in 4k, awesome again.
If the movie was shot in 8k, then I would love to get an 8k tv and an 8k source. But that isn't available yet. For now, if a movie is available only in 1080p, then that is how I will watch it.
I just wish that Apple had implemented auto frame rate detection way back with ATV2 and 3. How the heck could those engineers of sat through a iTunes film and not noticed the panning judder/stutter? It's so obvious especially when you've upgraded from the DVD and you know the film inside and out 
Especially for a company that prides inside on attention to detail!
It's clear that Apple are finally taking ATV seriously
Anyway, well done guys at Apple. Good job!
Especially for a company that prides inside on attention to detail!It's clear that Apple are finally taking ATV seriously
Anyway, well done guys at Apple. Good job!
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Do you have plex
Can you test if the frame rate thing works with your own plex movies
That's what upscaling is.
A 4k TV displaying a 1080p image that is not upconverted will not fit the screen. You just get a shrunk down image in the middle of the screen.
https://www.cnet.com/news/can-4k-tvs-make-1080p-look-better/
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Agreed. If you’re watching a 1080p source full screen on a 4k tv then something is upscaling it. Though in fairness, I would far rather my tv dealt with this than the Apple TV
I have left mine on 4k 60hz out for everything (TV can handle it) and the results are good. I am not so worried over the Apple TV up converting. The switching however adds a new dimension (better) but wonder now if the Dolby and HDR10 method of delivery can be clarified and addressed. That would be the icing on the cake.
Apparently if your tv can handle both then the files are played in their native format. If not, Apple is applying some kind of conversion between hdr modes
Plex is using the native video player of the Apple TV, so yes, its working fine with Plex.
Not working with infuse, because they use their own video player. But I bet Infuse will update its software very soon to implement that feature.
