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tvOS 12: What do you want to see?
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+1000!! And keep in mind these are just Apple's editorial picks (with many categories rarely updated).
Nothing more frustrating to a developer than working hard to push an app to tvOS only to find there's no easy way for people to discover your app!
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+1000!! And keep in mind these are just Apple's editorial picks (with many categories rarely updated).
Nothing more frustrating to a developer than working hard to push an app to tvOS only to find there's no easy way for people to discover your app!
I think in general Apple has to really improve app their app stores. tvOS is a great example, but the problems extend much further.
My number one complaint is the lack of forgivability in search. If you don't spell an app name exactly right, it might not show up in the results.
Searching for keywords seems to mine the descriptions of the app, which is abused by some developers. It's like the search engines of 1990s searching only <meta> html tag of websites. Basically, finding the right app or the best app is nearly impossible without going online and researching the options on a computer.
1. Safari, or some type of web browser
This should have been added at day 1.
2. Better support for multiple users
The TV App and universal search are basically useless if multiple people are using it. If my wife was the last person using Hulu, and I want to use the universal search to watch something in Hulu, it almost always loads it into the last person on Hulu. Multiple user support would also be nice for game center related stuff.
3. Games, better quality and maybe some good ports
This may not be something Apple can directly do with a new version of tvOS, but maybe they could do some behind the scenes type stuff to get some momentive going for game development.
It would be nice if Apple and Nintendo would get together to bring a virtual console app to the ATV.
Web browser on TV have been tried many times before and they have all failed.
Examples? Why did they fail?
At least for me, the web browser worked well on the Wii. I haven't tried any other web browser on the TV other than a Mac Mini.
Home App - I'd like the return of continuous play of tv episodes when watching a series ( used to work prior to tvOS10 ), and for tv episodes to be marked as watched when they're in a playlist ( used to work prior to tvOS11 ).
Look at Ninteno Wii... ...to see why its a failure.
However, today we all have over scans pop-ups up on smart TV's, tweeting at the same time in split screen on overlay transparency type dialog boxes, while also watching our favorite footy match, and DVR type stuff.. in picture in picture type views.
Could be do-able as long as it is NOT full screen.. No interruptions. We have our phone for web browsing, but since more and more of this stuff is on smart TV type devices because users want it. it would also make sense for Apple TV to do it. as long as there is the option as well to turn it off in Settings.
The only thing really stopping a web browser is the remote.. But since we've switch to the Siri remote now anyway, that should close the gap more.
Here's just a few of my own wishes...
- More modern audio codec support than 1991's Dolby Digital (doesn't matter to me if any of that appears in the online store). DD 7.1 was a good but- IMO- modest step. Where's the rest of the modern majors? If this is supposed to be Apple’s answer to the “bag of hurt,” fully compete on both the video & audio fronts (whether content in the store evolves or not). Make the hardware as capable as any 4K BD player on the market, so there is no technical superiority in BD hardware. If this IS competition, fully compete!
- Fix fast scroll so that it works again. As is, fast scroll should be called fast & stutter or fast & stall scroll. It starts going fast then stalls, starts & stalls. For a little while it worked as intended- perhaps even called buttery smooth scrolling through a long list of titles.
- Resurrect great features of the
TV OS from prior models. Even little stuff like using the "Show" tag to better group serialized movies (Star Wars, Harry Potter, etc) rather than listing each "episode" in a single long list. Good functions and functionality of prior models have been replaced with lessor/worse/no "solutions.” Once you achieve "just works,” adopt a "if it ain't broke" mentality, instead of periodically re-inventing anyway and creating "just DOESN'T work" replacements... or no replacements at all.
- Go back to putting our own movies in a Movies menu, our own TV Shows in a TV Show menu, etc. "Computers" as a catch-all is NOT intuitive.
- Siri search should "see" our own content even faster than only seeing our "in the cloud" content. IMO- it's borderline ridiculous that Siri is unable to see my own content.
- Quit prioritizing rentals & purchases. Prioritize us- the users- and make the rentals & purchases available but not dominating the product UI. Note this idea is not about taking money from Apple but shifting back toward the original approach to how
- Support network storage for those that desire to cut the "always on" cord with some computer elsewhere in the house. It is still a very desirable feature for some. "The Cloud" is not an answer for everyone. A "local Cloud" could be a great option. As an optional feature(s), this would affect no one happy with the "as is" (streaming only) approach but it would scratch a big itch for many.
- Speaking of “local cloud,” it seems like a slam dunk new product from Apple would be the ultimate iTunes media storage device (mostly a big hard drive(s) that shifts a home’s iTunes media to a single device and from which all of the computer & mobile devices can draw content. Yes, there are attempts at this from many other players but only Apple could build a complete one and directly integrate it into the various Apple OSes to make it seamless (as if the content is on the storage of the various household devices). Yes, we can get close to this with “home sharing” via a dedicated computer, but instead of dedicating a computer, how about a NAS from Apple refined to cover this specific task? I would think they would sell a ton of these.
- Support for some kind of comprehensive, system-based, DVR-like functionality (cloud or local drive). Record anything that can be played by any app (which is what would make this different than virtual DVRs within only select apps). Store the recordings as long as you like. Stream it to whatever device you have on your network or to your mobile devices. Etc. Basically, a fully functional, universal DVR that works with everything. Add on dongle?: maybe hardware H.265 compression to more efficiently store whatever is recorded?
- I don't think one remote can ever "fit all." So, create dedicated remote codes for all TV interaction functions so that people can use whatever remote they want and have as close to full control of the device as possible. A plethora of discrete codes for universal remotes would be an invisible way to deliver on this, affecting no one happy with the “as is” but opening up many more capabilities for those who would rather use universal remotes to control the unit in traditional ways. Apple could still ship it with their definition of "perfect remote" but discrete codes would allow those who want something different to even more effectively go with other kinds of controllers and do things not possible within the limited number of codes associated with it now.
- Full web browser (Safari?) for
- Dedicate (more?) talent to this hardware & software to fully compete with the dedicated talent at work for competitors. Apple has more money than any of them, yet those other guys seem to be making the strides with this kind of product. Why? My guess: FOCUS... as in, focused talent. Make a subset of that talent work harder on bringing mainstream apps available on iDevices to this box. For example, where’s stuff like Tivo or DISH Anywhere? This box becomes added value if it can replace the need to lease boxes from cable & satt companies. Many equivalent apps already exist for mobile iDevices. It's not a big stretch to bring them to
- Make Homekit compatibility less costly (lower the licensing fees) so that the same stuff with that compatibility is not about twice as expensive. I don't want to pay $229 for door locks otherwise available for about $100 just so that I don't have to pull a key out of my pocket or punch in a numeric code. IMO, convenience and "gee whiz" has some value but not 2X (or more) retail.
- Get tvOs basic video consumption features "just works" right. How about NOT having a round of the faithful spinning bugs as "just one software update" this time? Test, test, test with real people watching real video and LISTEN to what they think is not working well... then fix it before rolling it out to ALL of us (yes, I know, squashing obvious bugs BEFORE is a near insanity wish here- what am I thinking???). Yes, that may jeopardize the "surprise"/secrecy but "the big reveal" loses it's shine when "the big reality" is feeling like beta or alpha testers for months and months thereafter. How did the “5” get out the door without auto-HDR settings? Gen 1 felt "just works." Achieve that again.
- The hopping app-to-app approach seems to doom the ability to discover new shows without other people selling us to try and locate them. New shows don’t get much time to attract the critical number of eyeballs to keep new episodes coming. Even stuff like Seinfeld & Cheers took upwards of a year before they became hits. Making it harder for the masses to discover new shows seems to complicate the chances of a modern day Seinfeld or Cheers finding enough audience fast enough to keep new episodes being produced. Fix this.
- Make accessing the tvOS app store possible via computer to significantly improve the ability to find desirable apps.
- The al-a-carte channels or al-a-carte shows dream slung around here is immensely appealing- even if they are unlikely to be realized at the oft-slung steep discounts and oft-wanted addition of "commercial free." Still, anything in that direction is better than nothing, even if it comes with realistic pricing (which is not about a dollar or fiver for access to every video ever made) and leverages the subsidy benefit of at least some commercials. A bunch of less-money-in-the-bank competitors have managed to bring various versions of this concept to market already. Apple certainly has the resources and cash to out do any of them. What's the hold up? Get it done.
Wow!! I hope Apple see your post!
+1000!! And keep in mind these are just Apple's editorial picks (with many categories rarely updated).
Nothing more frustrating to a developer than working hard to push an app to tvOS only to find there's no easy way for people to discover your app!
That's why there is a search option.. Actually, luckily there is one because it wouldn't be discovered otherwise.
Perhaps this was why Apple implemented a search option in the first place, so they can host apps front and center to their own liking, and as long as users know the name of the app they can search for, everything will be ok.
I do like Apple's way
It definitely goes together well with their slogan "Think different" ..It's about as different as you can get,
The problem is the search algorithm is very poor, and easily manipulated. For example, it took a long, long time of doing my own marketing before my iOS apps would even become visible in search results for directly related terms. Even though I have some of the only surround sound apps in the iOS app store! For a long time they were buried deep in the search results under apps that had very little, or even nothing to do with the search terms. (thanks to keyword stuffing and the like)
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Where did Apple promise this?
There was one unofficial comment from an Apple person who misspoke about how Siri works in the same quote, in the Verge, when the ATV4K was released and everyone keeps quoting that dubious comment as some kind of promise.
But no one at Apple will confirm it. Doesn’t feel like a promise. Feels like a wish. And I wish it were true, too.
Like others have said. MULTIUSER SUPPORT. I don’t mind not having it on an iPhone or even an iPad but you really need it on ATV
Atmos.
DTS passthrough, including DTS-X.
Apple needs to get its audio support out of the dark ages if they really want to be high end.
DTS passthrough, including DTS-X.
Apple needs to get its audio support out of the dark ages if they really want to be high end.
I’d like to see @TV extend mesh networks, they are typically positioned throughout the home and could dedicate bandwidth to their streaming activity as part of the network.
Further convergence would be nice, I think someone suggested adding a hard drive and making them the NAS server housing a family’s iTunes library. I wish you could replace Time Capsule backups and all of that old functionality with a meshed device. Rather than forcing customers to a monthly iCloud storage solution which for some is sub-optimal.
Perhaps Atmos and some of the sound enhancing or pass through solutions are being held back to promote an Apple solution using multiple Homepods... Homepods should add to a mesh network too by the way.
Further convergence would be nice, I think someone suggested adding a hard drive and making them the NAS server housing a family’s iTunes library. I wish you could replace Time Capsule backups and all of that old functionality with a meshed device. Rather than forcing customers to a monthly iCloud storage solution which for some is sub-optimal.
Perhaps Atmos and some of the sound enhancing or pass through solutions are being held back to promote an Apple solution using multiple Homepods... Homepods should add to a mesh network too by the way.
- Dolby ATMOS
- Safari web browser
I not stay at USA or UK, so I hope below is available.
I do have iTunes USA and UK account but I prefer my country local account as it is easier for me to buy content in local account.
- "TV" apps for all country
- "Siri" for all country
- "TV Shows" for all country
- 4K titles is equally same in all country
- Safari web browser
I not stay at USA or UK, so I hope below is available.
I do have iTunes USA and UK account but I prefer my country local account as it is easier for me to buy content in local account.
- "TV" apps for all country
- "Siri" for all country
- "TV Shows" for all country
- 4K titles is equally same in all country
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