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tvOS 17 Code Confirms A17 Chip for iPhone 15 Pro, A16 for iPhone 15

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References to four unreleased iPhone models have been found in tvOS 17 by code delver @aaronp613, and the model numbers appear to confirm Apple's chip choices for the devices.

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Apple added references to identifiers that include iPhone15,4, iPhone15,5, iPhone16,1, and iPhone16,2 in the first beta of tvOS 17 and they stuck around for several betas before Apple noticed and pulled them out in beta 5. The numbering fits with rumors that Apple will use the 3nm A17 chip for the iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max, while the iPhone 15 and 15 Plus get the same A16 chip used in the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max.

15,4 and 15,5 are in the same sequence as the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max, which are iPhone15,2 and iPhone15,3, respectively. Apple uses the "15" to denote devices with the A16 chip. The iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus, for example, are iPhone14,7 and iPhone14,8 because they're using the A15.

So because the iPhone 15 and 15 Plus will get the A16 chip already used in the 14 Pro and Pro Max, the 15,4 and 15,5 likely reference these two devices. 16,1 and 16,2 will be the first iPhones with a new chip, aka the rumored A17, so these model numbers likely refer to the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max.


Aaron also found references to an iPhone14,1 and an iPhone 14,9, devices that would have an A15 chip. It is not clear if these are significant or even reference devices that are coming in the future. iPhone14,1 in particular is curious as Apple has already used the iPhone 14,2 through iPhone 14,8 identifiers.

We've heard multiple rumors about Apple's plans to use the A16 chip for the standard iPhone 15 models and the A17 chip for the iPhone 15 Pro models, so the code findings are no major surprise. Apple is planning to introduce the new iPhone models in just under a month, with rumors suggesting they will be unveiled at a September 12 event.

Article Link: tvOS 17 Code Confirms A17 Chip for iPhone 15 Pro, A16 for iPhone 15
 
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Makes sense. Apple have now set a roadmap for the Pro vs. the mainstream, where the Pro gets the new chips and the mainstream gets last years chip. It's a sound strategy because it means production isn't as dependent on yields of the new chip.

Now, the confusion will remain with the Mac side of things, as they introduce the new chips first in the consumer models and then tag a Pro, Max or Ultra onto it to make it more gooder rather than just giving the cheaper models last year's chip.

This is bad marketing. The consumer chip should not have the same naming convention as the Pro chip. No other chipmaker does that, and for good reason. They should move to M and X, or something like that. It would even allow the two to splinter even more than core count.
 
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Can you imagine, if the iPhone 14,1 was an iPhone 14 mini (the same as the 13 mini but with 6GB of RAM, crash detection, Bluetooth 5,3 and so on) and Apple discontinued the iPhone 12, 13 and 13 mini…

Can you imagine, the iPhone 14,9 being sort of an iPhone SE, with the body of an iPhone 14, and USB-C…

Can you imagine?

EDIT: after thinking about it for a few days, I’ve come to the conclusion that the iPhone 14,1 will be an iPhone 14 with USB-C port, and the 14,9 an iPhone 14 plus with USB-C port.
 
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MacRumors said:
Aaron also found references to an iPhone14,1 and an iPhone 14,9, devices that would have an A15 chip. It is not clear if these are significant or even reference devices that are coming in the future. iPhone14,1 in particular is curious as Apple has already used the iPhone 14,2 through iPhone 14,8 identifiers.
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Maybe Apple will introduce iPhone Mini in the future. Let the iPhone Mini be born again!
 
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FattiesGoneWild said:
Um no. It’s simply cheaper batteries and Apple will be using even cheaper ones in the 15 Pro/Max. My 14 Pro Max has never overheated.
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The degradation of battery health of my iPhone 14 Pro was obviously quicker than previous generations. This happened to some of my friends using the 14 Pro too. Not to mention the numerous accounts on Twitter..uhh X. Maybe this really has something to do with the battery quality, or a combination of both.
 
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haruhiko said:
The same trick again. But mind you, the A16 chip on the iPhone 14 Pro overheats quite a lot and consumes a lot of power, thus the poor battery life and health of overheats quite a lot and consumes a lot of power, thus the poor battery life and health of the 14 Pro.
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Maybe your phone has a hardware problem. I have never experienced such problems.
 
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This all but confirms Apples greed to make their consumers spend big for there latest tech.

I always prefer the pro max for my daily use. However for those who prefer to use smaller phones its a kick in the gut.

Apple is losing its 00’s Steve Jobs glow, the iphone design is becoming dated & ios is not fairing any better.

Worst of all the keynotes are getting boring, lacking guest appearances of the past & the lack of audience makes it feel zoned out.

I am keeping my fingers crossed the iphone 16 ultra can save the iphone with a new design overhaul and more focus on fine tuning ios.
 
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LionTeeth said:
Comments like these make me shake my head. It’s a mature tech now, how can it look “dated”? It’s a glass rectangle. Bright OLED screen. Exactly how does that look “dated”?
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I think they meant vs android phones with smaller hole punches or entirely hidden sensors. I’d take the pill with Face ID over the more subtle approaches that require Touch ID.

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Worst of all the keynotes are getting boring, lacking guest appearances of the past & the lack of audience makes it feel zoned out.
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I miss the live shows but I do not miss the guest appearances at all. Every one of them I have experienced has been agonizing (boring, bad speakers, lasts too long) and it completely destroys the pacing of the keynote.
 
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I want my iPhone battery life to be similar to my M1 Mac. It's time to make the phone thicker and flush with the ugly camera bump, and a more efficient chip should be used in all iPhones.

Time for iOS and MacOS to become more efficient for day-to-day use too.

  • Get rid of Siri and put in a new assistant that actually works.
  • When I search for a contact's name on the Home Screen, the contact should show in the search, instead of saying, "no results found." The contact should have the call, FT, text, and contact info buttons when searched.

  • A FaceTime button should be present within the dial pad on the phone app, rather than a separate app just for FaceTime.

  • iWork needs an overhaul to compete with Microsoft Office.
 
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haruhiko said:
The same trick again. But mind you, the A16 chip on the iPhone 14 Pro overheats quite a lot and consumes a lot of power, thus the poor battery life and health of the 14 Pro.
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The 14 Pro has better battery life than the 14 despite having an always on 120hz screen and the same sized battery. That tells me that the A16 is more power efficient than the A15.
 
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The 14 Pro has better battery life than the 14 despite having an always on 120hz screen and the same sized battery. That tells me that the A16 is more power efficient than the A15.
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Anecdote says no
I have 1 iPhone 14 Pro and two iPhone 14 in the household. The two iPhone 14 have much better battery life. There is another iPhone 13 Pro which also incidentally has better battery life. Anyway YMMV.
 
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ikramerica said:
Makes sense. Apple have now set a roadmap for the Pro vs. the mainstream, where the Pro gets the new chips and the mainstream gets last years chip. It's a sound strategy because it means production isn't as dependent on yields of the new chip.

Now, the confusion will remain with the Mac side of things, as they introduce the new chips first in the consumer models and then tag a Pro, Max or Ultra onto it to make it more gooder rather than just giving the cheaper models last year's chip.

This is bad marketing. The consumer chip should not have the same naming convention as the Pro chip. No other chipmaker does that, and for good reason. They should move to M and X, or something like that. It would even allow the two to splinter even more than core count.
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I would agree the naming of a pro chip in the range, when you also have a MacBook Pro or Mac Pro is confusing and can cause some tongue twisters, but that aside, I feel their naming convention is excellent. It's quick and easy to understand where in the pecking order the chip you are looking at is and then to find the tech specs for it. If you are the type of buyer who Apple loves and you must have the most expensive, bright and shiny everything, then you still get that warm glowing feeling when you tell everyone you have an "Ultra" computer. Telling them you have an X23 or whatever, doesn't have quite the charm.
 
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Dark_Omen said:
I want my iPhone battery life to be similar to my M1 Mac. It's time to make the phone thicker and flush with the ugly camera bump, and a more efficient chip should be used in all iPhones.

Time for iOS and MacOS to become more efficient for day-to-day use too.

  • Get rid of Siri and put in a new assistant that actually works.
  • When I search for a contact's name on the Home Screen, the contact should show in the search, instead of saying, "no results found." The contact should have the call, FT, text, and contact info buttons when searched.

  • A FaceTime button should be present within the dial pad on the phone app, rather than a separate app just for FaceTime.

  • iWork needs an overhaul to compete with Microsoft Office.
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Thicker? This MF is already twice too thick. Just picked up my old iPhone 7 and it’s small, light, and thin. They are headed in the wrong direction with thick and heavy bricks.
 
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