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xxray

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Except that the actual battery life (real time usage over one full charge) is the opposite from what you are trying to imply. 12 Pro Max is much longer than 11 Pro Max. 12 Pro 12 are slightly better than 11 Pro and 11, respectively. 12 mini is shorter than all of them.

12 Pro Max has the same battery life as the 11 Pro Max. 12 Pro is slightly worse than 11 Pro. 12 is slightly better than 11.

Video playback:
  • 12 Pro Max: 20 hours
  • 11 Pro Max: 20 hours
  • 12 Pro: 17 hours
  • 11 Pro: 18 hours
  • 12: 17 hours (Streamed playback is 11 hours)
  • 11: 17 hours (Streamed playback is 10 hours)

Source: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/
 
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SnakeEater1993

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But who is gonna watch a video for 17 hours. Are you working, do you have bills to pay, do you cook, put your phone, go outside, get some fresh air, talk to people, meditate, use other devices, sleep, eat, shower, do number two? There is life outside of that 18 hrs.
it's just a marketing gimmick instead of mentioning the capacity of the battery...
 
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agsystems

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What I don't understand is if you can still charge your phone using the usual USB plug with a connector that connects to the bottom of the phone or if the only way you can charge the new ones is with a MagSafe charger. Does anyone know the answer?
no change there - you can charge the phone with your existing lighting cable - the phone does not have a USB-C port
 

SnakeEater1993

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I guess that would make sense to folks in this board - I am sure my parents would understand better that buying phone A will have 18 hours of video playback as opposed to telling them this phone has a 2900mAh battery
Iphone X= 2716 mah crap battery life
iphone xs= 2658 mah crap battery life
iphone 11 pro= 3046 mah very good battery life
iphone 12 pro= 2775(alleged not confirmed)
Well if they did mention their capacity, your parents would have a clear idea of Apple mocking them with marketing tricks like 18-20 hours of video playtime...Reducing total capacity is unacceptable...
 

sw1tcher

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mmWave 5G Availability

If you're expecting to unbox your iPhone, set it up, and get blazing fast 5G speeds, you might be disappointed. 5G is still in the early stages of rolling out, and the fastest mmWave 5G is limited select portions of major cities, which means most people aren't going to be able to use it.

There's no guarantee you'll see out of the box speed improvements, but things should improve over the course of the next year.

Which is precisely why after I let my excitement die down and rationally thought about things I've decided to skip the iPhone 12. There will be no immediate and noticeable improvements like going from 3G to 4G.

Just wait for the iPhone 13.
 
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sw1tcher

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the same phone? yea, you still have to push the #s and the call button ...
beyond that? significant improvements ... might want to read the article a little bit

There are improvements, but I wouldn't say they're significant. Well, not significant enough if you have an 11 or Xs, IMO.
 

jz0309

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There are improvements, but I wouldn't say they're significant. Well, not significant enough if you have an 11 or Xs, IMO.
we can argue over the word "significant" and I do have a 11 Pro Max and I do consider some of the improvements as siginifant. At the same time, I'm going to upgrade.
. a 5nm chip - that is significant
. 5G - if you are part of the lucky folks who actually get 5G service - that is signifiant
. camera: what is referred to as "sensor-shift optical image stabilization" (in the DSLR world it is IBIS in body image stabilization" is significant, it is missing from a lot of the top DSLRs still.

there is more, but everyone sees these differently and that is perfectly fine
 

thejoshuabradshaw

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I want the mini as long as it offers Zoomed Display view. It should since it can use the 5.8 or 6.1 ratio to scale up. I love the smaller form factor and I do all my heavy lifting on my iPad mini and 12.9 iPad. I only use the phone to talk and text.
 

Mr. Awesome

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What I don't understand is if you can still charge your phone using the usual USB plug with a connector that connects to the bottom of the phone or if the only way you can charge the new ones is with a MagSafe charger. Does anyone know the answer?

Yes, you can charge it via the lightning port, wireless Qi charging, or a MagSafe cable.
 
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sideshowuniqueuser

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Nope. Sure didn't miss greasy face big eyebrows man. When I saw him I immediately realized this is how I will look in every FaceTime photo taken at night. smh
Um, and lipstick??? My eyes are bleeding, and unfortunately I can't unsee that horrendous abomination of a picture. Tell me that isn't part of Apple's advertising???
 

Shirasaki

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15W MagSafe Charging

Apple put a ring of magnets in the iPhone 12 models and designed a MagSafe wireless charger to work with those magnets. The charger is similar in design to the Apple Watch charging puck, and it snaps right onto the new iPhones.

With the MagSafe charger, the iPhone 12 models can charge at up to 15W, which is twice as fast as the 7.5W Qi-based charging limit.
So, iPhone 13 will likely remove wired connectivity to the computer thanks to this MagSafe connector thing. Also, there will be absolutely no way I can recharge my iPhone on the go or in the wild unless that MagSafe charger has USB-C port at the other end, which I doubt. Time to buy duck tape for recharging on the go.
WOW that's huge difference! I am talking about mah ....Well we knew that they used worse battery technology but WHY did they make it thinner...seriously who choses thinner phones over longer battery life...?!
Because a lot of people are obsessed with thinner device. Because Johnny Ive dictates that thin device like a piece of paper is the future of smartphone. Because thin device are generally lighter so people playing with their phone at the bed won’t feel tired lifting a piece of paper. The list goes on and on.
 

4jasontv

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I still don’t get how they can call it a pro phone while the lightning port maxes out at usb 2.0 speed.
Imagine if you record a 10s of GB of 4K or Slo Mo video and the fastest way to transfer it is using a usb2.0 speed lightning cable.
Why would you need to transfer it? You can edit 4K HDR on the device.
 

techfreak23

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So are those the only options? 5G or Smart Data Mode? What if I want to completely turn off 5G and have it not even check at all? I know my area won’t be getting 5G anytime soon, so it would be pointless to have the 5G radios on.
 

cchs2014

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think many people are forgetting that even though the battery allegedly decreased, the A14 chip is better at optimizing battery usage.

There’s a chance we may not even see a noticeable difference in battery life despite the size of the battery being smaller.
 
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