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These clients pioneered product features we all know and love about Twitter such as mute, the pull-to-refresh gesture, and many more.

I thought Leah Culver built pull to refresh for Pownce first and published a library to GNU / Github that anyone could use and that's when it took off?

I don't want Leah's contributions to modern UI interactions today be swept under the rug by companies like Twitter.
 
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DO any normal people use Twitter? I know a lot of people and while most have a twitter account, they don't use it. I opened one years ago and never really posted to it. Why use anything but facebook and instagram unless you're a celebrity? If it wasn't for howard stern i'd barely know twitter still existed.
 
I’m curious how many Twitter users actually use 3rd party clients? Are the complaints mostly coming from tech press?
 
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Complaining about a free service that's supported by ads and not being able to use a 3rd party app that doesn't have the ads. Means 3rd party app users don't contribute to driving the revenue required to keep the service going. Smart business choice on their part to get rid of it.

3rd party app users make up a minority of Twitter users. Even if they lose a small percentage of 3rd party app users, they're not out anything and their network will likely become healthier because of it.
 
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I’m curious how many Twitter users actually use 3rd party clients? Are the complaints mostly coming from tech press?

According to Twitter, only 1% of users use 3rd party applications, i that 1% of active users or 1% of the entire base? Most argue that the most active users that are engaged connected with 3rd party apps instead of the 1st party ones. I'd wager that's accurate which would mean 1% of all users but that could really be 50% of active.
 
DO any normal people use Twitter? I know a lot of people and while most have a twitter account, they don't use it. I opened one years ago and never really posted to it. Why use anything but facebook and instagram unless you're a celebrity? If it wasn't for howard stern i'd barely know twitter still existed.

You've just laid out Twitter's biggest problems. Most people have an account and just read tweets from celebrities. Some engage only with people like them (tech, far left, far right political, scientists, etc and use it sort of as an industry / common interest chat room) and most sign up and never come back.

Facebook on the other hand it's where everyone you work with, are family with all in one newsfeed so it's more sticky Twitter is all about who you follow and who follows back that makes it valuable.
 
So instead of having a healthy ecosystem of users and third party developers, they decide to throw it all away. Why? It just doesn't make any sense. . . . .

Sure it does, They can't monetize their own apps if everyone uses a third party app. Twitter is in big trouble and if they don't do something they will die. Of course, it looks like what they are doing will also cause them to die.
 
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3rd party clients have had a notable impact on the Twitter service and the products we built. Independent developers built the first Twitter client for Mac and the first native app for iPhone. These clients pioneered product features we all know and love about Twitter such as mute, the pull-to-refresh gesture, and many more.

In order words, 3rd-party clients turned your absolutely atrocious service into something usable, which for some reason you declined to do on your own.

It hasn't been realistic for us to invest in building a totally new service to replace all of the functionality of these APIs, which are used by less than 1% of Twitter developers.

And how many CUSTOMERS do those 1% of developers have? Do you have any idea how many will be impacted by these changes? This is absolutely idiotic analysis.

I somehow don't think this is going to end well for this company. While a lot of people love Twitter, there are a great many (like me) who hang on as very reluctant users. Making it even less pleasant to use with an absolutely obnoxious user experience is going to chase more of us away.
 
You've just laid out Twitter's biggest problems. Most people have an account and just read tweets from celebrities. Some engage only with people like them (tech, far left, far right political, scientists, etc and use it sort of as an industry / common interest chat room) and most sign up and never come back.

Facebook on the other hand it's where everyone you work with, are family with all in one newsfeed so it's more sticky Twitter is all about who you follow and who follows back that makes it valuable.

Sports news
College football
Baseball

These are the reasons I have a Twitter account
I only follow a couple of people I know in real life
But I get real time sports updates and in game analysis from writers and other fans
 
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Twitter has zero obligation to allow 3rd parties access to ANY APIs. Are there any 3rd party facebook apps at all? Just use the twitter app. I really dont understand the outrage.
 
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I will continue to use Tweetbot until it no longer works. I already use the official Twitter app just for notifications. I don't sit browsing Twitter for hours at a time, so timeline streaming won't make much of a different.

The official app is a heaping pile of garbage. Twitter really should be ashamed of themselves.
 
Does anybody use Twitter anymore (I mean besides Trump)?

I have an account but every time i go there there's just so much spam, garbage, tweets with randomly generated meaningless text etc. that I find it hard to believe anyone seriously uses Twitter for anything useful.
 
that says the "best Twitter experience" it can provide is through its own "owned and operated Twitter for iOS and Android apps, as well as desktop and mobile twitter.com."

Their app is trash on every platform it is out on. If it wasn't, people wouldn't need to use the 3rd party alternatives.
 
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If the point wasn’t to kill 3rd party clients, they would have developed new APIs that were based on “newer” technologies Twitter “supports” to replicate the functionality of the APIs being retired. Removing functionality critical to 3rd party clients and offering no replacement can only be seen as an effort to cripple those clients. Twitter can protest all they want but that’s the reality.

They did have API to replace the now dead API, but behind a paywall. About UD$11+ per user per month. So for 100,000 users, it would cost Tweetbot or Twitterrific US$1.1+ million per month.
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Complaining about a free service that's supported by ads and not being able to use a 3rd party app that doesn't have the ads. Means 3rd party app users don't contribute to driving the revenue required to keep the service going. Smart business choice on their part to get rid of it.

3rd party app users make up a minority of Twitter users. Even if they lose a small percentage of 3rd party app users, they're not out anything and their network will likely become healthier because of it.

3rd party app contributes many new features for Twitter over the years. Also provide accessibility (for the blind) where the official app and web site doesn't.
 
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This sort of thing was exactly the sort of reason why I was hesitant with buying Tweetbot. I understand that it's a superior client to Twitter's own native client, but while I don't have a lot of issues with the native version, the fact that they killed off their macOS version is completed unreasonable (especially since the Windows version was recently relaunched). Also, Twitter's stance on developers has always been flaky, so this seems to be only a matter of time.

I don't know what will force them to change their mind, but I guess there's nothing anyone can do at this point.
 
Someone should compile an anthology of all the tweets that have ruined their senders' lives. The stupidity exhibited on social media is outstanding! /golfclap
 
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