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Yes, it is. Freedom of assembly extends to racists and people you disagree with. The fact that people want constitutional rights to be ignored just because it's the internet is just one step away from losing them offline.

Not on xitter, or any online forum or app. Nobody has a constitutional right to be on twitter or x or whatever he’s calling it today. Musk didn’t just allow it, he welcomed many of them back to twitter.


If you were talking about child molesters, I'd agree with you. And they do take action against that... because molesting children is wrong and illegal, and being a racist isn't.

We aren’t talking about some 90 year old racist granny here, we are talking about violent terrorist groups who wish to commit genocide. Moderation on a private social media platform isn’t taking away anyone’s freedoms.

Oh and btw, Musk just UN-suspended the account of someone who posted csam on his twitter account, and he fired most of the team at twitter who took down that sort of thing.

You actually see white supremacist recruiting on Twitter? I dunno... sounds like the algorithm is showing you what you're interested in seeing. Lol. Jokes aside, I'm guessing you haven't seen any of that and are just parroting some anti-Musk, race-baiting news source that's cashing in on your emotional clicks & views.

What algorithm? I have no twitter account and can only see what is shown as a guest, and lately it’s been a torrent of white nationalist/neo-Nazi hate groups that have their tweets boosted to the top of every trending hashtag they participate in. This has been widely reported by a lot of people since Musk took over. One of the first things Musk did when he bought Twitter was to start banning anti-fascist accounts run by researchers, journalists, and others. Those accounts were fed to him by neo-Nazi’s who strangely had Musks ear, and without question he banned every account on their enemies list. Since then the world has seen musk delve deeper and deeper into wacky conspiracy theories, racism, white nationalism, and hate and bigotry towards LGBTQ people.

It's truly sad that otherwise smart people have been duped into believing all these crazy racial narratives and absolutely refuse to believe otherwise, even though their daily offline lives are practically devoid of it.

Not sure what any of this even means.

Oh btw I have barely been able to see anything on twitter since the rate limit thing, I read a handful of tweets and then boom I’m locked out for 24 hours. That was really the final straw for twitter, so unbelievably stupid, especially since ad revenue is down musk goes and puts a limit on how many tweets one can view per day. Wrecked verification, and now re branding it into X, pretty safe to say twitter is dead.

He could have just started his own social media company, would have been far cheaper, why all this hoopla about buying it only to screw it up and re-brand it?
 
Absolutely. The point being made was that Twitter was “censoring people” and “stifling free speech” before Mr. Musk bought it. That of course is not true and to your point, opening Twitter/X up to basically ANY content also exposes the company to countless potential legal entanglements. The main takeaway from all of this is that Musk is a basically incompetent individual with way too much money to waste on things that do society absolutely no good whatsoever.
Ok moving away from first amendment and free speech. The changes to twitter/x imo are welcome. That was a company waiting to fall into the abyss anyway. Now obviously there will be agreement and disagreement on that point, but I’m glad this shakeup happened.
 
Hmm, wonder if there's a Safari or Chrome extension that could blank out... posts :rolleyes:...for you. Seems like the easiest and best solution if somethings out there (or somebody should build it if there's demand).

Of course, anybody can just block content from Twitter and X on their device. I’ve already done that.

The problem is that MacRumors shouldn’t be embedding the content on Twitter/X in the first place. It shows complacency and potential support of that site and it’s content and forces the MacRumors audience to contribute to that site.

Does the MacRumors team like Twitter/X and the direction it’s heading? Do they agree with Musk’s leadership? By continuing to embed tweets, MacRumors is saying “yes.” They do support that site and want their users to support it with them.

Like I said, the content is now blocked on my device. But I can still tell when there is a tweet. I don’t have to read MacRumors. losing a few people for this isn’t going to hurt their bottom line. I simply do not appreciate having Twitter/x content forced on me simply by wanting to read MacRumors content.
 
Does the MacRumors team like Twitter/X and the direction it’s heading? Do they agree with Musk’s leadership? By continuing to embed tweets, MacRumors is saying “yes.” They do support that site and want their users to support it with them.

Covering a news story about a person or company does not necessarily equal "agreeing with" or "supporting" that person or company. All of the major news organizations are covering the Twitter/X story on air and/or their websites, including links or embedded tweets/posts, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are supporting/agreeing with it or want their viewers and visitors to as well.

The MacRumors Twitter/X articles seems to be fairly neutral, more informational than any else, but do point out that the X branding plan has been criticized by some. I wouldn't necessarily conclude that MacRumors is supporting Twitter/X/Musk any more than other similar news/information sites.
 
Covering a news story about a person or company does not necessarily equal "agreeing with" or "supporting" that person or company. All of the major news organizations are covering the Twitter/X story on air and/or their websites, including links or embedded tweets/posts, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are supporting/agreeing with it or want their viewers and visitors to as well.

The MacRumors Twitter/X articles seems to be fairly neutral, more informational than any else, but do point out that the X branding plan has been criticized by some. I wouldn't necessarily conclude that MacRumors is supporting Twitter/X/Musk any more than other similar news/information sites.

Embedding the tweets directly into the article is the problem.

There is no problem with the reporting on it. I’m not asking them to stop reporting on the app. I’m asking them to stop embedding the content into their articles and forcing readers to contribute to that site.
 
Embedding the tweets directly into the article is the problem.

There is no problem with the reporting on it. I’m not asking them to stop reporting on the app. I’m asking them to stop embedding the content into their articles and forcing readers to contribute to that site.

How do you feel about people, organizations, companies, etc. even more directly "contributing" to Twitter/X by actively posting and reposting on it? Is that even more of a sign of supporting or agreeing with Musk and the direction Twitter/X is heading?
 
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I don’t really like the X rebranding. But it’s funny seeing the criticism of Musk. He’s made more money than anyone criticizing him. He has two very successful businesses that make high tech, real world products that are best in class. That doesn’t mean this rebranding will work. But people are crazy if they are sure Musk is a clueless idiot.
It’s way easier to bitch and moan about something when you have nothing else going on in your life. The people complaining are basically bots.
 
Ok moving away from first amendment and free speech. The changes to twitter/x imo are welcome. That was a company waiting to fall into the abyss anyway. Now obviously there will be agreement and disagreement on that point, but I’m glad this shakeup happened.

Musk killed Twitter. Billions of dollars worth of brand equity flushed. This strikes you as good? Billions and billions of dollars spent to stroke the ego of a guy who has too much money? Perhaps those billions of dollars could have been better spent on something that actually helps society, not on a filthy troll farm?
 
But XLon said getting rid of the bots would be easy!

The more I hear from him the more I am disappointed. He let me down. I was ready to go to mars with him!!!

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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/02/elon-musk-tweets-twitter-bots-boosted-ftx-listed-crypto-researchers.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar

To be fair, the research findings reported in the article you posted primarily focused on the period between January 2019 and January 2023. Musk didn't have control of Twitter for most of the time as he only officially took over in October 2022.
 
How do you feel about people, organizations, companies, etc. even more directly "contributing" to Twitter/X by actively posting and reposting on it? Is that even more of a sign of supporting or agreeing with Musk and the direction Twitter/X is heading?

Since I’m no longer on that site/app, I am not concerned about what happens on it. Yes, it bothers me, but I am not exposed to it.

What I don’t appreciate is that I am trying to avoid it and publications are forcing me to view it with embedded content. I’m on MacRumors. I don’t want to be forced to view Twitter/X content on here.
 
Since I’m no longer on that site/app, I am not concerned about what happens on it. Yes, it bothers me, but I am not exposed to it.

What I don’t appreciate is that I am trying to avoid it and publications are forcing me to view it with embedded content. I’m on MacRumors. I don’t want to be forced to view Twitter/X content on here.

I understand that you want to avoid Twitter/X but I think it's a stretch to conclude that just because a news/information site like MacRumors embeds tweets/posts means they are agreeing with and supporting Tiwtter/X.

There are other things people, companies, etc. do that more directly "contribute" to Twitter/X yet I wouldn't conclude even they are necessarily supporting or agreeing with Musk and the direction Twitter/X is heading.
 
Musk now announced that if you are a big company and don't buy enough ads, he will not protect you from fake accounts that could post stuff that can harm your brand.

Sort of. He apparently said that gold check certified (which costs up to $1,000/month) companies may lose their certification if they haven't had ad spends of at least $1,000 in the past 30 days or $6,000 in the past 180 days.
 
But XLon said getting rid of the bots would be easy!
The bots are everywhere. On so many big accounts that I’m following on Twitter, I keep finding those stupid bots/crypto/NFT scammers in the replies, in addition to so many OF accounts that post straight up porn on Twitter. I keep finding them everywhere, and it makes me very sick.
Oh and not to mention, they’re all “verified” (aka, have the blue checkmark). At this point, what does it actually mean to be “verified” anymore when you can simply pay $8/month and be “verified” ? It doesn’t make sense anymore when clearly so many fake accounts are now verified, which is the complete opposite of what “verified” means..

This is a complete mess. He’s the one who allowed those bots to be easily verified in the first place by adding this stupid Twitter Blue feature, and he probably won’t ban them because they pay money for Twitter.. or X, whatever it’s called right now.
 
Musk killed Twitter. Billions of dollars worth of brand equity flushed. This strikes you as good?
It's his company, there are no shareholders. My opinion of what happened is irrelevant as is yours. It's his company to do what he wants to do with it.
Billions and billions of dollars spent to stroke the ego of a guy who has too much money? Perhaps those billions of dollars could have been better spent on something that actually helps society, not on a filthy troll farm?
You can't tell people how to spend their money from the poor to the super-rich. Everybody decides for themselves how to spend their money. And if they want to spend their money on other than social causes, it is their right. Not to mention how do you value the brand equity of twitter/x. It is now a private company subject to different regulations than a publicly traded company. The worth of the company will only matter when Musk decides to divest it.
 
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It's his company, there are no shareholders. My opinion of what happened is irrelevant as is yours. It's his company to do what he wants to do with it.

You can't tell people how to spend their money from the poor to the super-rich. Everybody decides for themselves how to spend their money. And if they want to spend their money on other than social causes, it is their right. Not to mention how do you value the brand equity of twitter/x. It is now a private company subject to different regulations than a publicly traded company. The worth of the company will only matter when Musk decides to divest it.

I didn’t say anyone should tell him how to spend his money. I suggested that a person with some sense of integrity might consider the potential positives he might have accomplished with 4+ billion dollars instead of using it to kill a company.

And again, it’s not really productive when Musk defenders rush to construct these ridiculous straw man arguments and try to attribute them to their opponents. It’s not a particularly solid debate strategy.
 
I understand that you want to avoid Twitter/X but I think it's a stretch to conclude that just because a news/information site like MacRumors embeds tweets/posts means they are agreeing with and supporting Tiwtter/X.

There are other things people, companies, etc. do that more directly "contribute" to Twitter/X yet I wouldn't conclude even they are necessarily supporting or agreeing with Musk and the direction Twitter/X is heading.

🤷🏼‍♂️ they are quite literally supporting the site by feeding traffic to it through their content.
 
I didn’t say anyone should tell him how to spend his money. I suggested that a person with some sense of integrity might consider the potential positives he might have accomplished with 4+ billion dollars instead of using it to kill a company.
Your phraseology is the same as telling people how to spend their money. Eg a corporate takeover costing billions instead of taking a company over and divesting it maybe have some integrity and consider the positives instead of pure greed. While you’re trying to criticize Musk the same can be said for other types of financial activities where the end product is about money.
And again, it’s not really productive when Musk defenders rush to construct these ridiculous straw man arguments and try to attribute them to their opponents. It’s not a particularly solid debate strategy.
I agree. Seems there is so much cognitive dissonance that people can’t see the forest from the trees and see through their own biases.
 
I also noticed that now commercials or "Promoted Content" isn't marked as such any longer. Both on mobile and on my PC, I am getting ads that aren't being labeled as ads any longer. They just appear as tweets like from the people I am following.

Guess he's trying something else to see if it works or not.
 
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