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I have a theory (and playing "Elon's" advocate) but could the API be shut down to choke out bots?
No. It's not shut down. They've just turned off access for apps that compete with the official app. After a week, they also updated their terms to make it clear that those apps are no longer allowed.
 
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To those that say the Tweetbot users will use native twitter app, you are wrong. I have deleted my twitter account after Tweetbot got banned. The twitter app is garbage. It doesn't have chronological feed, it doesn't let us see all of a user's media in a thumbnail grid, and its user interface is horrible. I really hate egomaniacs and narcissists, I'll never buy a Tesla. I feel sorry for those who do own a Tesla, 'cause you have to say you own a product from this piece of ****.

Don't feel sorry for me. I love my Tesla it's the absolute best thing I've ever bought in my life. ... I choose not to be weak minded and let one person's ramblings influence my buying decisions.... There are hundreds of thousands of people that work at Tesla... I'm not going to stop from buying one just because I don't like the views of the CEO.. that would be silly.
 
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Don't feel sorry for me. I love my Tesla it's the absolute best thing I've ever bought in my life. ... I choose not to be weak minded and let one person's ramblings influence my buying decisions.... There are hundreds of thousands of people that work at Tesla... I'm not going to stop from buying one just because I don't like the views of the CEO.. that would be silly.

Tesla is in its own world of hurt; not from his views, but from his actions. Their shareholders are in arms because Space Karen has to Karen. And it doesn't help that he's being sued by them for fraud, and then claims that his tweets that were supposed to influence the privatization of Tesla "don't mean much". He's taking the company down with him, including the people who are working there. You don't care about his views because of the thousands of people that work there, yet his actions and views there are hurting the very people you're caring about. It can't be had both ways.

BL.
 
Tesla is in its own world of hurt; not from his views, but from his actions. Their shareholders are in arms because Space Karen has to Karen. And it doesn't help that he's being sued by them for fraud, and then claims that his tweets that were supposed to influence the privatization of Tesla "don't mean much". He's taking the company down with him, including the people who are working there. You don't care about his views because of the thousands of people that work there, yet his actions and views there are hurting the very people you're caring about. It can't be had both ways.

BL.
That is absolute B.S. being spewed by the publications that are upset Tesla chooses not to give them advertising money... and People like you who already dislike Elon and have their views set eat it all up... The company is selling cars in record numbers.. They lead all EV manufacturers by an absurdly wide margin... and their cars are becoming best sellers in many markets selling even more than ICE vehicles... On top of that they have an immense cash reserve on hand... A report just came out that they are hiring a record number of new employees for their auto and battery plants... More than any US based auto manufacturer.... But by all means keep spreading the false doomsday narrative just because you don't agree with what one person tweets.
 
That is absolute B.S. being spewed by the publications that are upset Tesla chooses not to give them advertising money... and People like you who already dislike Elon and have their views set eat it all up... The company is selling cars in record numbers.. They lead all EV manufacturers by an absurdly wide margin... and their cars are becoming best sellers in many markets selling even more than ICE vehicles... On top of that they have an immense cash reserve on hand... A report just came out that they are hiring a record number of new employees for their auto and battery plants... More than any US based auto manufacturer.... But by all means keep spreading the false doomsday narrative just because you don't agree with what one person tweets.
Wasn't there a lot of reports and evidence of Tesla vehicles being unsafe and the auto driving feature malfunctioning and running over people, and Elon and Tesla suppressed that?

People can say what they want on their feelings of Elon, but there are objective facts of his mismanagement and absolute dunderhead moves HURTING these companies. Twitter is becoming more and more walled up so he can try to make money at the expense of the users, Tesla is losing stock value and the vehicles are going more under scrutiny as their quality issues show, so on and so forth.
 
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That is absolute B.S. being spewed by the publications that are upset Tesla chooses not to give them advertising money... and People like you who already dislike Elon and have their views set eat it all up...


So now we are back with the "these are biased sources" that Elon's stans alway claim. Oh well; in for a sheep.

The company is selling cars in record numbers..

Aherm:



Record numbers, while their sales have been declining.

They lead all EV manufacturers by an absurdly wide margin... and their cars are becoming best sellers in many markets selling even more than ICE vehicles...

Source for both of these claim, please.

On top of that they have an immense cash reserve on hand... A report just came out that they are hiring a record number of new employees for their auto and battery plants...

The cash on hand, I believe. But source for the hiring claim.


More than any US based auto manufacturer.... But by all means keep spreading the false doomsday narrative just because you don't agree with what one person tweets.

It isn't just me that believes that; The shareholders believe that, especially because of how much value they are losing from their stock:


Not to mention the fact that their share value has fallen 65%.


Let alone that Musk has lost the most money out of anyone in the history of this planet. But yeah, it's all because we don't like what he tweets. :rolleyes:

BL.
 
Yeah you don't understand what I'm saying, clearly. Oh well. The Twitter website and the Twitter iOS clients are API consumers, therefore the ads HAVE TO BE part of the API, because where the hell else are they coming from? A little bird carries them from Twitter HQ to your phone?
Speaking as someone who tests APIs in their job... The Twitter app and website are consumers of an API, but it's likely that - even if it is the same API that developers paid to access - the client and key used to authenticate would allow more data to be returned for the official apps/website than for third-party clients.

One example is new followers. If you have a protected account you can't approve/deny new follower requests in third-party clients. So, either the third-party clients don't receive that information in the API call and the Twitter app/website do (again, using authentication to filter it out), or more likely it's a separate API. You could use separate APIs when you don't want to give more information to third-party clients than they're supposed to get, or where the excessive filtering of new features that third-party clients aren't getting becomes so onerous that it makes maintenance of that main API difficult.

Alternatively, it might be the same API, but given Twitter's services know what app/website is accessing the data (from the authentication) it might make a call for its own app/website to a different (internal) API to get some ads, and send them along with the main API response, then the app/website injects them in the appropriate place.

Thing is, we don't know because we don't work there. I'm just giving you my 2¢ as someone who tests this stuff.
 
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I think in the end, we will see updated TwitterAPI specs released that will allow the use of third-party apps like Tweetbot and Twitterific again. It's in Twitter's interest to keep it that way. They will be released once the TwitterAPI specs (in my opinion) upgrade to support the new Twitter Blue verified user system.
 
I think in the end, we will see updated TwitterAPI specs released that will allow the use of third-party apps like Tweetbot and Twitterific again. It's in Twitter's interest to keep it that way. They will be released once the TwitterAPI specs (in my opinion) upgrade to support the new Twitter Blue verified user system.

Which would be a huge horrible backpedal for Twitter, and proof that Musk's executive decisions have been horrible for the company.

Besides, whatever happened to him ruling by consensus, or did that go out the door when he got told off by his users because he didn't like what they said?

BL.
 
And yet his fans fall over themselves saying how great this move will be and will only make twitter better :p
And yet? Elon is making a move to thwart bots on twitter, that's a good move for freedom of speech, so yes of course Elons fans say it is great. It really can only be opponents to free speech who are against it.
 
Yes. As clearly as yourself.
of course, I never said “I’m concerned about out of work developers”. That was merely your (fairly daft to the point of being disingenuous) interpretation.

But do carry on insisting that banning specific API keys linked to the companies making specific 3rd party Twitter clients is anything at all to do with reducing bots on the platform. 😂😂😂
 
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i was making a point. when people get fired to save a business from going under, is in fact, disingenuous at best. That’s what I was illustrating by suggesting a fundraiser for out of work devs. But you’re right it was disingenuous of me. I was pretending to go along with the notion that it was somehow outrageous to fire people. It’s not. The survival of the company comes first.
Have a good one.
 

Instead of treating the devs like crap, why not just announce this the other week and say existing access will end on Feb 9th and this is what’s happening going forward.
Because Twitter under Musk is a bin fire. He went in, broke things, and won't apologise for his actions. When Tweetbot went down, that was it for me; I just stopped using Twitter.
 
The final end of third-party apps happened under Musk, but Twitter had been fighting against third-party apps for a long time already.
I don't think Twitter would have ever become what it was at its height without the help of 3rd party apps - and then once they got their dominant position in social media, they shoved off those who got them there as being an inconvenience. And from there it's all been downhill. Now it's a dumpster fire.
 
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Well, they’ve just become profitable again recently so I can’t fault their business practices any more than we see comments on here slamming ‘Timmy’ (as they call him) despite the fact every decision he’s made leading Apple has been a golden goose egg.
 
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