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Talk about misleading headlines, this one takes the cake. Both Apple cars were stopped, one was in manual mode, both were hit by other vehicles. Apple’s technology was not involved in either event, unless the implication is that Apple’s technology should have somehow, someway stopped the other vehicles from hitting it. Would the author of this headline please explain what he is trying to say.

You know, critics of self-driving technology will grasp at straws to make their point. See, SEE! Two Apple car accidents in one month! Disgraceful, incompetent, not ready for real world driving. Big FAIL, Apple!
 
This is one reason I hate driving now. I constantly have to look out for other drivers on the road. I've lost track of the number of times I've nearly been hit by drivers zig-zagging in and out of traffic, or simply not paying attention (or caring). I even saw someone on a highway reading a newspaper while driving. There are many people who simply shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel. And none of that will be fixed by autonomous driving until ALL vehicles are autonomous. I strongly doubt I'll live to see that era. But if a human is behind the wheel, there will always be far more accidents than if a network of computers is controlling the flow.
 
This is one reason I hate driving now. I constantly have to look out for other drivers on the road. I've lost track of the number of times I've nearly been hit by drivers zig-zagging in and out of traffic, or simply not paying attention (or caring). I even saw someone on a highway reading a newspaper while driving. There are many people who simply shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel. And none of that will be fixed by autonomous driving until ALL vehicles are autonomous. I strongly doubt I'll live to see that era. But if a human is behind the wheel, there will always be far more accidents than if a network of computers is controlling the flow.
Yes...yes, until that day that a sun flare hits earth and surrounding or a massive EMP. 🤔


Regarding the article, a complete non story.
 
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That’s quite a dongle on the roof.

Regardless, whoever’s fault it is…I don’t know. Leave the driving to me. I don’t know when I’ll trust a hand-off autopilot car to take me anywhere above 5mph…and only if it’s in the vicinity only of other cars under auto-pilot mode. I don’t trust the human element amongst auto-piloted cars.
 
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I would say that it's a coincidence, but honestly I feel like people have been driving even crazier lately so who knows. Everyone is a nutcase nowadays coked out on horse meds.
You must live near me...lol. People here drive like complete morons and have absolutely no regard for other drivers and their safety.
 
Why is this interesting? The Apple vehicles apparently were not at all at fault. The only interesting aspect is that these incidents involved the Apple autonomous vehicles at all.

You can't always take one sided report at full face value. I'd like to hear from the other party and know who paid for the repair to the non-Apple party's vehicle. Since company PR is at stake it could be secret policy to falsify report, deny fault and put the blame on human driver vs autonomous system then pay hush money to the other party. Usual human driver behavior in this scenario is to honk the horn to alert other driver and perform collision avoidance since there's plenty of time in a slow moving parking lot scenario.
 
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We all say competition is good especially with Tesla out the front gates, however, knowing apple, its going to a long journey and an expensive one for consumers knowing cost of new products from apple, to get SD car adopted especially when Tesla has a head start.
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100% confident that Apple car won’t have a steering wheel / yoke etc. it will be hands off
 
I don't care about a fender bender. What I want to know as a stock holder: Somebody tell me that they're not wasting time and money on LIDAR!
 
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Apple autonomous vehicles have to be operated in manual "human assisted" mode and there's no collision avoidance either by human or autonomous system like what's been demonstrated with Tesla.
How well does Tesla's collision avoidance work when the car is stopped as in both of these accidents?

You really should at least skim the article before posting.
 
Why is this interesting? The Apple vehicles apparently were not at all at fault. The only interesting aspect is that these incidents involved the Apple autonomous vehicles at all.
The thought (which isn't spelled out) is probably that the % chance of being hit in manual mode is constant, so being hit twice in a month is supposed to indicate there are more Apple cars on the road — though it could also just be a statistical anomaly. Either way it's mildly interesting but not important.

The headline is pure clickbait, and just (unfortunately) sets the tone in which we interpret the article.
 


Earlier this year, the California DMV's disengagement and mileage reports suggested that Apple's Lexus SUVs with self-driving software traversed more than 18,000 miles in 2020, a steep increase compared to prior years. It's possible that Apple has ramped up its testing in 2021, leading to a higher number of incidents.
That is a VERY LOW number, doesn't Tesla claim millions?
 
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