Same here. Keeping my 13PM after all this. Also, comparing the 17PM and 13PM side by side in store, the changes just aren’t enough for me.
Hope next year is something more exciting :/
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Two iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone Air Colors Appear to Scratch More Easily
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Hope next year is something more exciting :/
I agree it could and should have been designed better.
I cannot answer that question because I have no data and am not informed enough in that regard to give a meaningful response.
As I said before, if it is proven with facts, that Apple made a manufacturing mistake that causes chipping, flaking (and the like) with what has been shown thus far, I will waste no time in stating Apple needs to properly address the problem.
It is illogical (at this point in time) to blame Apple when we don't have the facts.
A fact for phones that have been on display for months, not hours.
Valid point. At the same time, we cannot discount (x amount of) rough handling by numerous store floaters.
I upgrade every year by purchasing the latest iPhone. However, this is the first year I simply cannot accept returning to cheap aluminum unibody after the titanium of my 16 Pro Max...
Curious what there is in a jam-packed Apple store that someone could be doing to a tethered iPhone in front of other people and the store staff that you consider "rough handling" to the degree to damage a phone? Slamming it against the charger stand? In full public view with cameras on in the store? Is that what people in Apple Stores do when they're checking out phones? The few times I've been in an Apple Store, I see people holding and using the phones, not throwing a brick on them.
In short, I'd recommend you get a decent case for the iPhone Air and iPhone 17 Pro at the first opportunity. ESR has iPhone Air and iPhone 17 Pro/Pro Max clear cases with camera control cover and full MagSafe support now on sale on Amazon.
Ok you’re right. These new phones scratches so easily. It more or less already starts when you take then out of the box. You need to avoid these years phones. Please stay with your current phone.
Fine now?
Well, that's one anecdote: here's what Google's AI Overview has to say about their own phones:
Yes, the Google Pixel Pro series is generally prone to scratching, particularly on the polished metal and camera bar finishes. While the screens use durable Gorilla Glass, many users also report that micro-scratches appear easily on the glass or its coating.
Common areas for scratches on Pixel Pro phones
Camera bar
- The polished aluminum camera bar on models like the Pixel 7 Pro and 8 Pro is a magnet for scratches.
- The anodized color on the aluminum can be scraped away, revealing shiny silver marks underneath, which are more visible on darker phone colors.
- Some users on Reddit have reported the camera bar on their Pixel 7 Pro getting scratched just days after purchase.
Glass body and screen
- The glass on both the front display and back panel of Pixel Pro phones typically scratches at a level 6 on the Mohs hardness scale, with deeper grooves at level 7. This is the same rating as most modern smartphones.
- However, many Pixel users report getting micro-scratches on their screen and back glass from normal use, such as from dust and lint in a pocket.
- These minor marks are often in the oleophobic coating, which is softer than the underlying glass.
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That's what I'm doing with my 15 Pro Max. But not just because of the finish: I'm waiting for 8K video, which I predict they'll implement next year with the 2nm chip
What are you running for 8K viewing / editing setup?
Personally haven't been inpressed with any phone 8k content. Glad Apple hasn't pushed it out as if it was the quality of competitors (or worse), it is simply hot garbage in most cases. The Qualcomm snapdragon processors have helped phones a great deal (FAR Less dropped frames), but it is a lot to ask of a tiny sensor.
8K would be waste I mean it is nice to have it but how many people will able to view 8K home ? Many of them will have purchase new tv or tablet support 8K But only person they buy 8k have 8K device at home will be fine with that
I think 8k is gonna be long way come in market
I think 8k is gonna be long way come in market
Its fairly likely people at apple stores purposely tried to scratch it with keys and other means.
This is just another very overblown issue, the scratches we've seen in many many photos and videos are just dust from other objects. Back of the phone is actually overall very durable like jerryrig shows.
I have a very big deja VU feeling about this
I watched Jerry's video and agree, but his video doesn't support the Apple hate train, so it will be ignored. Even if the phone chips on the corners after drops, the front screen, back glass, camera, and internals all perform well in many other channels drop tests I've seen. I would rather have a phone that still functions after a drop or two, even if it has some scuffed corners, over an easily cracked screen or damaged internals, any day. Also, as a power user, anything to keep phones cool is a plus, as it helps with battery degradation. Not making excuses, but 98% of people with smartphones use cases anyway.
Also, funnily enough the titanium on the 15 Pro and 16 Pro also scratches and scuff easily but haters will ignore that too.
16Pro has the same issue, but... only on the camera rings. I can confirm that since mine is black and never had any case on. There is some minor scuffing on one of the rings. Though the important distinction here is that this would have been much much worse if that compromised edge extended around the entire enlarged camera island.
Definitely glad this is the off year on my 2yr phone cycle. Dropping titanium for aluminum is a huge mistake for the pro, especially since I always go caseless.
It’s been a full year with my 16PM and it’s still in perfect shape, despite one drop onto concrete. Meanwhile the 17 pros have been out a few days and look like that?
It’s been a full year with my 16PM and it’s still in perfect shape, despite one drop onto concrete. Meanwhile the 17 pros have been out a few days and look like that?
The only practical use of 8K at this point for me is to reframe for 4K pipelines (using Davinci or other NLEs). So in that regard, it would be handy. But knowing Apple, I suspect they'll come out with some really useful application of the extra resolution.
It was suspected by trading off titanium back to aluminium there would be compromises like scratches & dents. But the benefits outweigh these compromises, for example a much more comfortable and lighter feel in hands & less heat build up.
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