How do some of you get out of bed in the morning for fear of scratches? Seriously, find something meaningful to focus on.
Apple switched to Aluminum and put a vapor chamber in there to dissipate heat. Putting a case over it seems like the perfect way to keep the heat IN. I'm like you and always use a case, but what's the point of all the engineering to cool the phone if you're going to encase it in a blanket?All Apple needs to do is make the display units so they don't scratch so they can then blame us for either using the phone wrong, or not buying a case.
I always buy a case, did with the 17 pro max, but this is pretty sad to see... as a fan of Apple in general, very lame.
It's a display phone where people handle it carelessly and don''t care. You haven't pointed out any problem much less a real reason to avoid black. All you showed was that a lot of people are callous and careless with other people's stock they don't own.
Not making excuses for Apple. I simply stated fact about store display phones.
Why are you making excuses for Apple?
The back is the original Ceramic Shield. Only the front has Ceramic Shield 2.I’ve been on my local Apple Store this evening and guys: it is true. I’ve seen by myself, at a greater or lesser degree, on all the new iPhones: 17, 17 Pro and Air.
It seems to be something related to the finish of the rear glass that makes it matte. For some reason it scratches easier, despite the announced Ceramic Shield 2.
So yeah, this year we have scratchgate.
I asked an Apple Store employee and he stated that a lot of the marks happened when they were putting them out on display. I guess they’re careless with their own stock, too? The older phones didn’t have marks on them, and they’d been out for a long while. Seems to me there’s something up with the coating on the back glass. Stop making excuses for Apple.It's a display phone where people handle it carelessly and don''t care. You haven't pointed out any problem much less a real reason to avoid black. All you showed was that a lot of people are callous and careless with other people's stock they don't own.
The security devices are metal. Metal on metal like with the store setup is going to scratch easier and doesn't denote normal use.I asked an Apple Store employee and he stated that a lot of the marks happened when they were putting them out on display. I guess they’re careless with their own stock, too? The older phones didn’t have marks on them, and they’d been out for a long while. Seems to me there’s something up with the coating on the back glass. Stop making excuses for Apple.
Yep, that’s what I saw too, during the first day of being exposed on the Apple Store.View attachment 2554969
We passed. Sticking with the 14P
Frankly, the least desirable looking phone I can recall by Apple. The marks/scratches were on every phone, even the white Airs had hairline scratches all over the back.
Valid point… but why are/were the 16’s on display not scratched even after months? …Not making excused for Apple. I simply stated fact about store display phones.
I'm not sure a case would keep the heat in but then I've never experienced a hot phone. My 14 Pro gets warm after a few hours of wireless charging in the car but never so to be uncomfortable. Heck, it never even gets anywhere near uncomfortable.Apple switched to Aluminum and put a vapor chamber in there to dissipate heat. Putting a case over it seems like the perfect way to keep the heat IN. I'm like you and always use a case, but what's the point of all the engineering to cool the phone if you're going to encase it in a blanket?
You're right from a certain perspective: cars, bicycles and phones have a destructive life. Cars and bicycles in traffic will get stone chips. An iPhone without cover put down, picked up, pocketed will suffer wear. You can ppf a car or cover a phone but that only goes so far.I guess people treat them rough when looking at display stock, put it in a case straight away, but if you don't like cases then i suppose it’ll get scratched at some point. Next I’ll hear of people complaining their new car scratches easy and when they lent on it a dent appeared. This really isn’t news. Oh NO, I bought a new bicycle and when I got it home it had scratches on it from being in the back of my car, OMG!
16PM. I usually upgrade every year.Which model are you currently using?
Don’t do it. These yearly upgrades are a waste of money. There aren’t such big new things anymore. Even two years are often not worth it.16PM. I usually upgrade every year.
Don’t take some heavy apple fanboys for the vast majority of people.This might be my most favorite forum thread I’ve read in a long time. The comments from the “Apple can do no wrong and they are the greatest company ever” gang are truly breathtaking.
Yes, phones will get scratched over time, but to defend Apple this heavily about scratches happening immediately and under normal application of charging devices is some next level “reality distortion field” effects.
And people have every right to be upset about spending a lot of money on something that is now perceived as cheap and poorly made. It feels like a scam.
But don’t stop you Apple lovers out there!
Tell us all again how scratches and USB 2 speeds are the greatest thing ever! Only Apple could pull it off!
Really good points by Jerry. So the edges are as expected the weak points.He made some good points
Really good points by Jerry. So the edges are as expected the weak points.
To also see something positive: all the news about easy scratches on the backside glass or the aluminium in general aren’t true.
Strange that they didn’t go with more rounded edges on the plateau.
Was it the case with the black pros in all previous years ? I don't remember it being that bad
Yup. Totally agree with you.Don’t do it. These yearly upgrades are a waste of money. There aren’t such big new things anymore. Even two years are often not worth it.
Why not? The cloth also has received its OTA Update and is compatible with the 17 models since a while xDand looks like Apples answer to the 'Scratch Gate' could be distributing free Apple Cloths![]()
But, also…ugh. Apple has been designing and engineering these things since 2007.Really good points by Jerry. So the edges are as expected the weak points.
To also see something positive: all the news about easy scratches on the backside glass or the aluminium in general aren’t true.
Strange that they didn’t go with more rounded edges on the plateau.