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I always want my devices to remain stock (I'm a dev) so I don't jailbreak. However I've always been jealous of the possibility to change/hide the carrier logo. I'd reeeeallly like that to be gone. Thank heavens that it's hidden by the notch on iPhone X.
 
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The only iPhone I jailbroke was the original and that was because it wasn’t available here so I had to in order to make it work.

By the time I moved off that phone to the iPhone 4 I no longer saw any reason to jailbreak.

If you are into the things Jailbreaking offers I really think Android might be more your thing.
 
Let’s see, the lock screen in iOS 11 is broken half of the time. The control center is still quirky, the gigantic headers make no sense and need to disappear, the music app is trash, folders are glitchy, the widget center is laggy... shall I continue?

Have no idea what phone you are using but non of these is an issue for me on iPhone X. But I guess different people do have different expectations from their phone.
There was a time years ago when me too did JB my iPhone due to the lack of many features, to just reverse back to stock iOS months after when realising that with the goods comes the bad, having my phone slowed down, battery drain more then usual, crashes, bugs, what not.
Will never go down that road again. iOS does have almost all I need. Always ON display is something I like on my Galaxy S8 but there is no way in a world I would JB my iPhone X for that.
 
I'm not surprised at this point that jailbreaking is on the decline. I hardly hear anyone talk about it these days.

I've never understood the fascination with it anyway.
Understand it or not the argument is a philosophical one. Should you have the right to do as you choose with a device you've paid for?

And yes that right includes the ability to screw the device-up beyond repair.
 
Thank those rebels.
Some of the jailbreaks are now in iOS.
Who knows if those tweaks/customization would have ever made it into iOS without JB Community.
Coincidentally, wasn't Apple once know as a rebel?

Na na na na. I am not thanking rebels at all. I am thanking competition, specifically Android. Apple had to compete or be left behind. JB was no threat or competition to Apple.
 
Thank those rebels.
Some of the jailbreaks are now in iOS.
Who knows if those tweaks/customization would have ever made it into iOS without JB Community.
Coincidentally, wasn't Apple once know as a rebel?
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The jailbreak features were obvious, and Apple didn't take any inspiration from them. As usual, they added features slowly either
- to make sure everything's vetted
- or to "keep their powder dry" so they can entice people with new features continuously
- or both.
The addition of custom wallpapers was probably the second one.
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Useless compaired to google or waze... if u wanna get lost or stuck in traffic, keep using it and drink the coolaide. Apple maps are the worst.
Google Maps has gotten me lost twice due to incorrect directions, Apple maps zero times. Google has tried to take me down many one-way streets in Los Angeles, while Apple has not. Until recently, I used both about the same and, for a couple of weeks, I used both at the same time on East Coast (USA) for the comparison.

Of course, that's only in the areas I happened to drive through, so I'm not going to act like it's that way for everyone. That's like saying a cell provider absolutely sucks just because it's bad where you live. But Google Maps does suck your battery down in any case.
 
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Have no idea what phone you are using but non of these is an issue for me on iPhone X. But I guess different people do have different expectations from their phone.
There was a time years ago when me too did JB my iPhone due to the lack of many features, to just reverse back to stock iOS months after when realising that with the goods comes the bad, having my phone slowed down, battery drain more then usual, crashes, bugs, what not.
Will never go down that road again. iOS does have almost all I need. Always ON display is something I like on my Galaxy S8 but there is no way in a world I would JB my iPhone X for that.
This is on iPhone 6S and SE, and I've seen the same things happen on 7. Saying that you aren't seeing them on a X is honestly dumb to say, because this is the latest from Apple, so all their attention went to it and no love and care was given to 7 and older. Honestly I think you've dismissed any issues you've seen, because I've seen iPhone 8 and X suffer from those very issues I listed. iPhone X is a mess on iOS 11. If there was a JB for it, I guarantee that developers would be all over it to fix all the annoyances, wasted space, unintuitive actions, etc. The JB community is all about making iOS better for the end user, it always has been. My biggest complaints with iOS 10 were solved with 4 tweaks. Tinybar to fix the obtrusive annoying banners. For anyone with a JB device, I heavily recommend it. Horseshoe to put all controls back on card one in the control center. Noctis for dark mode on the lockscreen, notification center, control center, banners, and dock. Lastly Eclipse for dark mode in apps. Eclipse, Noctis and Horseshoe worked together, so when you had Eclipse installed with Noctis, you had the option to enable and disable them at the same time. With Horseshoe installed, it would add the dark mode toggle into the control center. It all worked together, it worked 100% of the time and worked perfectly everytime. My experience on iOS 10.2 with the JB was wonderful.

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This is on iPhone 6S and SE, and I've seen the same things happen on 7. Saying that you aren't seeing them on a X is honestly dumb to say, because this is the latest from Apple, so all their attention went to it and no love and care was given to 7 and older. Honestly I think you've dismissed any issues you've seen, because I've seen iPhone 8 and X suffer from those very issues I listed. iPhone X is a mess on iOS 11. If there was a JB for it, I guarantee that developers would be all over it to fix all the annoyances, wasted space, unintuitive actions, etc. The JB community is all about making iOS better for the end user, it always has been. My biggest complaints with iOS 10 were solved with 4 tweaks. Tinybar to fix the obtrusive annoying banners. For anyone with a JB device, I heavily recommend it. Horseshoe to put all controls back on card one in the control center. Noctis for dark mode on the lockscreen, notification center, control center, banners, and dock. Lastly Eclipse for dark mode in apps. Eclipse, Noctis and Horseshoe worked together, so when you had Eclipse installed with Noctis, you had the option to enable and disable them at the same time. With Horseshoe installed, it would add the dark mode toggle into the control center. It all worked together, it worked 100% of the time and worked perfectly everytime. My experience on iOS 10.2 with the JB was wonderful.

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Nah man, you see..... all these eye sore stuff you got on these photos may be cool for some but not for me. You should realise that not everyone uses the phone on the same way or need same things from the phone. What you may find it useful or pleasing to your eyes some others may not. I personally would never ever make my phone look like that.
 
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Nah man, you see..... all these eye sore stuff you got on these photos may be cool for some but not for me. You should realise that not everyone uses the phone on the same way or need same things from the phone. What you may find it useful or pleasing to your eyes some others may not. I personally would never ever make my phone look like that.
So what you are saying is that you would never like a dark mode ever? Ha ha very funny.
 
What exactly do you find funny about it?
I find it funny that you wouldn't want that of what I pictured. What I pictured was what the control center in iOS 10 should've looked like from the start, and basically exactly what you would get if Apple added a universal dark mode to iOS. I find it funny that you wouldn't want control over the device that you payed so much money for.
 
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I find it funny that you wouldn't want that of what I pictured. What I pictured was what the control center in iOS 10 should've looked like from the start, and basically exactly what you would get if Apple added a universal dark mode to iOS. I find it funny that you wouldn't want control over the device that you payed so much money for.

Well, I find it funny that you find it funny other people don't like stuff that you do. I do have a control over the device I have. As much control as I personally would need. Why on earth is it so hard for you people to realise that some of us have different preferences/needs? All these tweaks you have showed to me that to you may look amazing, to me look like they have been done by a 14 year old kid. Face it, we do not like/need same things. Period.
 
Well, I find it funny that you find it funny other people don't like stuff that you do. I do have a control over the device I have. As much control as I personally would need. Why on earth is it so hard for you people to realise that some of us have different preferences/needs? All these tweaks you have showed to me that to you may look amazing, to me look like they have been done by a 14 year old kid. Face it, we do not like/need same things. Period.
I would love for you to elaborate on what looks like a "14 year old's" work.
 
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I loved Jailbreaking my iPhones. Made the user interface much more beautiful and easier to use. Tweaks were the best. Now it's all gone.

Apple shouldn't shy away from people developing such tweaks, it's actually beneficial for them. Having an independent party give you free ideas that you're OS is lacking and slowly implementing it into the iOS.

Free Ideas people, well for Apple anyway.

I still remember all the useful tweaks I would download and use, even till this day.

I've been waiting for the next Jailbreak since iPhone 6.. Today is a very sad day indeed..
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No, it's not. Jailbreaking has been mostly pointless for quite some time now. The upsides of it are minuscule, and downsides are huge - major one being a massive security hole of keeping your personal data on what's basically is an insecure hacked device.

I used to jailbreak religiously since the original iPhone 2G.. But would not even consider jailbreaking now, even if JB was readily available.

it's all preference, I still remember a lot of tweaks I used, and would still use today. Lost interest in JB IS because of no JB. that is the truth.

Apple has nowhere near applied all of Cydia's useful tweaks into their iOS.
 
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Nah man, you see..... all these eye sore stuff you got on these photos may be cool for some but not for me. You should realise that not everyone uses the phone on the same way or need same things from the phone. What you may find it useful or pleasing to your eyes some others may not. I personally would never ever make my phone look like that.
Gotta agree with this guy, those screenshots are very unappealing to me.
 
Sorry, I haven't had that experience whatsoever. It isn't kool-aid. Maps has also gotten a lot better with iOS 11. I've used it in many places, including a recent Vegas trip ... and it got me everywhere without getting lost ... and it also notified me of traffic and at one point found me a faster route around traffic. The lane guidance is also extremely helpful so that I know which lane to be in when I'm making a turn or coming off an exit ramp. I'm not exactly sure how you think Apple Maps is going to magically manifest traffic that wouldn't have otherwise been there if you used another maps app, but that's not how reality works. Apple Maps won't get you stuck in traffic. Traffic will get you stuck in traffic. I use Google Maps and it works just as well, but it's hardly a perfect navigation app either. There aren't any perfect maps apps and it's why I have several just in case one is not working to my liking. For instance, before I go on a trip, I download my entire trip in Google Maps just in case something happens where I'm not getting directions in Apple Maps due to a lack of cell signal in a particular area. Having said that, I've not actually experienced this yet in Apple Maps because it uses a much more storage efficient vector mapping system so it can actually download and cache a lot of the route so that it can continue working if cell signal cuts out.

The Apple Maps bashing no longer seems to be based on facts, but emotions. I drive a LOT and take many trips to visit family and friends, and Apple Maps has worked for me 99% of the time. For the 1% of the time it doesn't, I use alternatives. And if, god forbid, none of them work, I bust out my country map book and find my way.
If only Apple would allow for maps downloading and could tap into the vast (unrivaled) Google dataset on businesses & geographic info
 
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Well, I find it funny that you find it funny other people don't like stuff that you do. I do have a control over the device I have. As much control as I personally would need. Why on earth is it so hard for you people to realise that some of us have different preferences/needs? All these tweaks you have showed to me that to you may look amazing, to me look like they have been done by a 14 year old kid. Face it, we do not like/need same things. Period.

Lol dude, you're saying that everyone has different preferences, so why are you grilling on Thunder's preference for Darkmode?

Jailbreaking gives people more capability to customise their iPhones to their EXACT preference.
 
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Yes. sure.
Everything about it.
That makes no sense and you wasted my time as well as yours to literally refuse to answer the simple question. You simply can't argue that it's fine, because it's the same thing as stock, but the white and grey backgrounds are inverted to make a clean elegant solution for using your device in a dark place. It's literally like flipping the Smart Invert switch in display accommodations, but this mode actually does something efficient and doesn't bog down your phone by having to render everything you see on screen. With those tweaks, it changes a couple color codes and that's it. Also keep in mind that you can fine tune the colors and translucency to make it look better if it looks off.
Another thing I want to mention is that you are making it seem that you think that I used this all the time. I didn't, I only used it at night, because that's what it was designed for. At a specific time, the tweak and night shift would turn on, and I wouldn't have to worry about stressing out my eyes at night. Most of the time, I used stock day mode.
 
my old screenshot of my Instagram feed from iOS 8
Great idea, needs refining. Contrast with a couple things are off and makes them difficult to see. You can fix that with Flex, or wait for someone to fix it themselves, because that option actually exists. Overall, still better than the current mess that is Instagram 8-24.
 
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Lol dude, you're saying that everyone has different preferences, so why are you grilling on Thunder's preference for Darkmode?

Lol, dude. Read my comments. I never said I was surprised he does like it. Don't give a flying monkey what people like. I don't like it myself the way I see it in the images and I think it looks like trash. I believe I made myself clear on that. End of story.
 
The interest is there. Is just the hackers haven’t been releasing them. I been waiting months for it
 
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