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Since neither the Kindle or the Sony ebooks are mac friendly (AFAIK) I am waiting anxiously for somethig from Apple to fill the void. I have been so tempted to pick up a Sony PRS-505 but I have been burned by Sony and their contempt for the Mac genre before.
 
I can think of a few reasons it would sell:

1. Replacment for the portable DVD player - watch your iTunes movies on the move
2. Portable games machine - super PSP
3. eBook reader
4. Portable mini computer with email/internet access on the move

The current iPhone/iPod Touch can do all this but the screen it just too small to make it enjoyable. A larger screen model would simply broaden the appeal and add a new dimension.

So like a portable AppleTV+. Interesting idea...
 
I just realized what apple is designing:
(scene from star trek)

In the business world having small cheap tablets that you could easily and quickly exchange information on would be beneficial. You throw in the media for the home users and you have the perfect combination. Since you would not need alot of storage, because you would stream and temporary buffer everything from a server location, you only cost in parts would be your screen, digitizer, processor, wifi chipset, and ram. This would place it probably about $100 to $150 retail price!

I suspect something along the lines of NEWTON + CLOUD.

However, what I do expect is that someone (eg, Apple) is going to finally put induction-based power into a device. Its going to be the "Charge Mat" that you simply lay your device onto - - no cables to plug in.


People would buy a contractless thin version of the iPhone faster than your mama can say Apple.

Agreed, and this summer will probably start to see that potential start to open up, as more and more two year terms expire. The trick will be in if unlocking becomes more commonplace ... and I do mean "unlocked" as opposed to "jailbreak".


-hh
 
Funny, Im the only one of my friends that get service in my friends basement, even in the tile walled bathroom. Im the only one with verizon.


Go figure.

It is funny I go to my friends house, and I am the only one with service and I have AT&T, and they have verizon.

Truth is all the carriers suck, and only with the iPhone have we not been raked over the coals on GPS, File transfer, applications, usage fees. Whatever the carrier it goes to I hope apple hold firm and lets its device be used without restrictions.
 
A game changing, disruptive device... has to be ground breaking..

"And one more thing... Today, Apple reinvents... the Digital Picture Frame!" (fanboys swoon, deafening applause)

the total wireless device, 3-5G, GPS, WiFi n, Bluetooth...basically everything we've come to love about iPhone... but there's more..

If the device is made for Verizon as a home pad, then:

1) LTE for comms.
2) Totally VOIP
3) Designed more as a home helper, than as a Mini-Mac:

  • Multiple onscreen widgets for weather, etc. (See Verizon Hub and HP Touchsmart for examples.)
  • Able to be stored on wall or desk as a picture / widget frame
  • Internet and video viewing of course
  • E-book
  • Futuristic newspaper app
  • Home control perhaps
  • Multi-person games, as it's a mini MS Surface when laid down
  • Some new app we haven't thought of
With LTE, it'll allow very nice TV viewing and internet game playing for passengers even while driving around.

PS. Love your name. Used to use THX1138 as a magic code number in many projects.
 
I suspect something along the lines of NEWTON + CLOUD.

However, what I do expect is that someone (eg, Apple) is going to finally put induction-based power into a device. Its going to be the "Charge Mat" that you simply lay your device onto - - no cables to plug in.

-hh

Apple`s had an inductive patent in the pipes for ages, see this article circa Feb 2007. http://hrmpf.com/wordpress/113/iphone-itablet-dock-inductive-charging

I suspect that the time may have finally come for this technology if we do in fact now have a larger form factor (tablet) to deal with, sure it`ll have the 30pin ipod dock connector but for charging at the bedside i suspect a contactless dock and possibly wifi syncing if the 802.11n rumours are true.

Besides Palm has already announced this to arrive with the Pre (power only) and Apple has napalmed most of the Pre`s advantages in it`s March event, this is just one more tick box i expect they`d like to remove from Con list.

M. :D
 
MessagePad aka Newton

Is there anything the the good old Newton did that the iPhone/iPod Touch still can't do. I don't remember the Newton when it came out and I've tried to do some research on Wikipedia, but it doesn't really say much.

I'm just asking because maybe the Media Pad will incorporate the forgotten features of the Newton (if there are any)?

Also MediaPad and MessagePad sound very similar.
 
A few things to remember:
1. Verizon's G4 network has not been deployed yet.
2. Verizon's current network is very spotty, I've had both AT&T and Verizon and AT&T is much better (at least on the East Coast).
3. Verizon locks down their phones and disables functionality.
4. Apple would never call a product "lite".

This is one of the worst rumors I've seen in a while.

Whatever
 
You read it here first:

the new apple tablet will have the abilties of both Ama\on Kindle and itumes: so complete multimedia - film, photo, books, music, office,surfing even some gaming! It will become the same as what the ipod did for mps players!

Ok, some have been ahead of me.
 
It's the iProd which was mentioned in a previous rumor...

Sorry, the iProd is an extension for the current models (the 0,1 was refering to that)... It's supposed to be a "Wii fit" kind of extension for the iPhone and iPod but without the Balance Board (personnal trainer)...

Well my explanation is not that clear but just search "iProd patent" in Google, you'll see what it is!!
 
The iPhone "lite" option is definitely do-able. All they'd have to do is keep it at 8GB (while upgrading the new iPhones to 16GB and 32GB), so it would have less space. They could also remove GPS and the Camera. Basically, think 1st generation iPod Touch with the ability to make phone calls.

They could make it slightly thinner by removing all these things, or they could include a smaller screen. If they make it slightly smaller, they wouldn't have to necessarily change the resolution, though it would probably be harder to read. Or they can keep the same form factor, after all just because its lite or a "smaller version" doesn't mean that it has to look different or be smaller in the physical sense since it would be "smaller" in terms of features.

The target of this phone, though, would be poor college students and high schoolers who in this day and age all have cell phones but can't afford a $2,000+ commitment over 2 years.

They can make it $99 with a 2-year contract or $299 prepay, and make the data plan optional or pay as you go (like $1/MB or something) to make it more affordable for teens (who I am sure would jump on it if they could pay $30 a month for service rather than $70+), while the iPhone remains at $199 and $299 depending on the capacity with the same plans as they have now.

IMHO, it'll be the same as the iPhone, $199 contract or $599 pre-pay...
 
Motivation?

So, why these leaks now? If they're true, verizon must be trying to keep their customers from going ATT when the new iPhone comes out in June.

If false, maybe it's apple trying to leverage ATT.

In either event, if apple adds verizon, the US sales for competing smartphones will effectively be halved. Short RIM, Palm, etc.
 
I think the iPhone lite won't be a separate product as many are assuming. I think that there will be a new SOC and other features of the design to make the whole thing cheaper. I reckon that they will offer capacities of 8, 16 and 32 GB and try to make the initial purchase and call plans look like better value. It seems to me that is the only barrier left to the iPhone's total dominance of the phone market.
 
I don't see the point in iPhone Lite, because I don't know what features they could remove to make it cheaper. AppStore requires a touch screen with 480x320 resolution, so I doubt that they'll release a phone with smaller display. If you can't use AppStore with iPhone Lite, what's the point? Surely you could do some basic phone stuff with it, but AppStore is one of the main attractions in iPhone.

It would be an iPhone for teenagers with parents that don't want to spend 100$/month for something that their kid doesn't need at all... A cell phone with a cool design and "normal" capacities!
 
As far as the iPhone coming to Verizon or another network, when your contract is up with AT&T, why not simply unlock the iPhone and use Boost Mobile with their $50/month unlimited everything plan? It's prepaid, no contracts, using the same technology as the iPhone and from what I have heard has great coverage and the only real requirements in their terms of service is that you don't use their service in a way that will prevent others from using it as well, no real data caps and they also say that they will notify you in advance if there is an issue.

Boost Mobile uses Sprint's network, not a GSM network. You can't unlock a current iPhone and use it on Boost.
 
I'm gona have to say, this concept I produced last year is quite close to what I believe this forthcoming product is/should be. I called it the "MacPad', an 8" tablet with the "Mobile OS X" running the iPhone interface but capable of handling OS X applications.



Read the description and more images available here.

That "capable of handling OS X applications" would be AWESOME. Read Keynote and PowerPoint presentations!
 
Verizon Said to Be in Talks for the iPhone
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By MATT RICHTEL
Published: April 27, 2009
SAN FRANCISCO — The iPhone may be poised to shake up the cellphone industry a second time.

Apple, the maker of the popular smartphone, is conducting high-level discussions with Verizon Wireless to sell a version of the iPhone that would work on Verizon’s network, according to a person briefed on the negotiations. The phone could be available as soon as next year.

The person, who requested anonymity because the deal isn’t completed, said discussions between top company executives intensified two weeks ago.

The iPhone presently is available exclusively on AT&T’s wireless network. That arrangement has lured millions of new customers to AT&T and lifted the company’s revenue in a recession.

The iPhone’s touch screen, GPS capabilities and 25,000 or so downloadable applications made it an instant hit. It has energized competitors who make look-alikes and given hope to device makers and wireless carriers that fretted over where to find growth in a market in which many adults already own a cellphone.

But while its exclusivity has certainly added to its desirability, it also limited Apple’s market for the popular phone. Were Verizon to begin offering the iPhone — whether exclusively or as a competitor to AT&T — it would be a significant development in the increasingly important battle for smartphone users, said Roger Entner, an industry analyst with Nielsen AIG. It would give Verizon, which sells Samsung, Palm and BlackBerry smartphones, another device to lure subscribers who do not prefer the AT&T network.

“The iPhone turned AT&T into a serious competitor now neck-in-neck with Verizon,” he said. If Verizon gets a contract to sell the iPhone, he said, “it will be another major shift.”

Jeffrey Nelson, a spokesman for Verizon Wireless, declined to comment on whether Verizon and Apple were talking. An Apple spokeswoman said that the company was “very happy” with its relationship with AT&T.

“AT&T is a very good partner,” said the spokeswoman, Natalie Kerris. “We have no plans to change the relationship.”

She declined to comment on discussions between Apple and Verizon Wireless.

In a recently quarterly conference call with investors, Tim Cook, Apple’s chief operating officer, cast some doubt on the prospect of an imminent deal with Verizon. He said that Apple was wary of building a phone for a network using C.D.M.A. technology — which Verizon’s current network uses — because, Mr. Cook said, the C.D.M.A. infrastructure may have a short life span.

Verizon, however, is moving to a new network in 2010 that would not rely on C.D.M.A technology. Verizon has said previously that even as it deploys its new network, it plans to retain its C.D.M.A. network for a time to transmit voice communications.

The person who had been briefed on discussions between Verizon and Apple said that it was not out of the question that Apple could build an iPhone for the current network.

Apple has not publicly disclosed the financial terms of its deal with AT&T or the duration of its exclusive deal, which began in 2007. Some industry analysts say they believe the arrangement ends in 2010.

Mark Siegel, a spokesman from AT&T, said the company was thrilled with its partnership with Apple. But he had no comment on the company’s own discussions with Apple about extending its arrangement. He said he had no comment on the discussions between Verizon and Apple.

AT&T’s most recent financial quarter showed the influence of the phone on its business. During that first quarter, AT&T said it activated 1.6 million new iPhones — more than 40 percent of them new to AT&T. During that period, AT&T had 1.2 million overall net subscriber additions, indicating that iPhones made a considerable impact on the company’s ability to grow, Mr. Entner said.

“Without the iPhone, their performance in the first quarter would have been worse than T-Mobile’s,” Mr. Entner said.

Verizon has done fine without the iPhone. It added 1.3 million customers in the first three months of the year, though many came from its acquisition of Alltel. Revenue rose 30 percent to $15.1 billion in the first quarter.

Verizon Communications, which owns Verizon Wireless in a joint venture with Vodafone, reported Monday that its net income grew 5 percent in the first quarter to $3.21 billion, or 58 cents a share, from $3.05 billion, or 57 cents a share, a year ago. Revenue rose almost 12 percent to $26.6 billion.

Doing business with Apple does carry a cost. Ed Snyder, an analyst with Charter Equity Research, said that AT&T has spent around $2 billion to subsidize the cost of the iPhones — selling them to consumers well below what it pays Apple for the phones. AT&T does not get a share of revenue from the iPhone App Store.

Further, Mr. Snyder said, the phones put heavy stress on the AT&T network because iPhone users tend to send and receive data more heavily than users of other phones.

That heavy use has its upside. Mr. Entner said that the typical iPhone user generates for AT&T around $85 in revenue a month, 40 percent more than users of other phones.

“It’s been a net plus,” Mr. Snyder said of AT&T’s relationship with Apple. “But it’s been more of a mixed blessing than most people view it as.”
 
I called it the "MacPad', an 8" tablet with the "Mobile OS X" running the iPhone interface but capable of handling OS X applications.

Running full OS X apps on a tablet is very close to impossible for many reasons, foremost among them the interface APIs, which assume a mouse driven interface with small buttons in certain positions, scroll bars, a menu bar, separate windows that overlap etc etc. So I'm afraid any tablet would not be able to run desktop OS X, and there's no reason it should.

Apps need to be cut-down for that smaller screen and adapted for touch input, which is why we have Mobile OS X.

What *would* be possible (though unlikely from Apple initially) is to present things like powerpoint presentations, or to adapt iWork for the phone, but it wouldn't run any old desktop OS X app, that will never happen.
 
Running full OS X apps on a tablet is very close to impossible for many reasons, foremost among them the interface APIs, which assume a mouse driven interface with small buttons in certain positions, scroll bars, a menu bar, separate windows that overlap etc etc. So I'm afraid any tablet would not be able to run desktop OS X, and there's no reason it should.

Apps need to be cut-down for that smaller screen and adapted for touch input, which is why we have Mobile OS X.

What *would* be possible (though unlikely from Apple initially) is to present things like powerpoint presentations, or to adapt iWork for the phone, but it wouldn't run any old desktop OS X app, that will never happen.

I agree, it would be far better in such a radical device to build a new version of the OS that is optimized for it. Like they did with the iPhone.
 
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